A Song Of Ice & Fire GRRM's Book Thread **Spoilers**

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    STOP TALKING STOP TALKING!!!!
    ive been sick and havent been able to read. lalalalalalala*finbgers in ears* lalalallaala
    :lol::lol:

    anyways....

    why do they gotta make tyrion seem so fucking ugly in the books.. hes practically a monster.... in my mind hes peter dinklage..i cant ugly him up. stop it george martin, stop it.
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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    FINALLY finished ADWD the other night! Gonna try to make time to go through this thread today.

    Wow. So much to discuss!!!!!!!!!!
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    STOP TALKING STOP TALKING!!!!
    ive been sick and havent been able to read. lalalalalalala*finbgers in ears* lalalallaala
    :lol::lol:

    anyways....

    why do they gotta make tyrion seem so fucking ugly in the books.. hes practically a monster.... in my mind hes peter dinklage..i cant ugly him up. stop it george martin, stop it.
    Isn't that part of his charm though? Its why he is so universally hated by the small folk. He is the underest of under dogs.No one likes him but he keeps trying to do whats right when he could easily so fuck off you people never gave me anything why should i care.

    That said Peter's potrayal of the imp is so good i always picture him like that now too.
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    FINALLY finished ADWD the other night! Gonna try to make time to go through this thread today.

    Wow. So much to discuss!!!!!!!!!!
    Your Read is done , and now your wait begins :D
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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    intodeep wrote:
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    FINALLY finished ADWD the other night! Gonna try to make time to go through this thread today.

    Wow. So much to discuss!!!!!!!!!!
    Your Read is done , and now your wait begins :D

    Oh boy. I've been putting off finishing it because I knew this feeling of emptiness would fill me during this wait period. :( Someone please lock GRRM in a room until he finishes book 6, k? :lol:

    Okay. So. Read through this thread and I have to say that the R + L = J theory is the best I've heard. I can fully back it, especially with Ned's promise to Lyanna. I won't believe that Jon is dead. Maybe he'll warg into Ghost or Melisandre will save him, not sure how but his story is definitely not done.

    I believe that Tyrion is infected just like Jon Connington. Hope not but there it is.

    I hope beyond hope that No One will be reunited with Nymeria and they will be excellent warriors.

    WTF is going on with Catelyn?

    Where the hell was Davos sent to to find Rickon?

    I'm on the fence with Bran's story. Yes it is pure fantasy, which is great, but the thought of him spending eternity underground rubs me the wrong way. I also agree that Coldhands is Benjen Stark.

    I'm also irritated that Dany stayed in Meereen all this time. Interesting to see how her relationship with Drogon will evolve. Is Daario really dead? :(

    Stannis. I don't believe he's dead either.

    Theon. That asshole deserves everything he's getting. I have no sympathy.

    Did they really have to kill Quentyn Martell? I was really hoping for something to happen there.

    Margaery - I think GRRM made it so that we have no idea if she's innocent or not. And to think of Cersei stewing on Casterly Rock is interesting. You know if they don't execute her she won't go there without a fight.

    Can't wait to see Jaime & Brienne again!

    Who am I missing? :lol:
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Where the hell was Davos sent to to find Rickon?
    99% sure he is going to Skagos. It is an island far north. Osha would nkow about it to take rickon there. Cannibals and Unicorns are mentioned and Skagos is said to be inahbited by Cannibals and rumored to have unicorns living on it.

    Have you read the Dunk and Egg tales? He has three short stories in three complilation volumes that are pretty good. They tell the story of Dunk and Egg which is about a generation before the Ice and Fire series picks up. There are tie ins with people that we hear about in Ice and Fire. It helps understand the Targaryen families more.
    I've read the first two and both were fun. The last is on my shelf i'm saving it for when i'm in big time GRRM withdrawl.
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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    intodeep wrote:
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Where the hell was Davos sent to to find Rickon?
    99% sure he is going to Skagos. It is an island far north. Osha would nkow about it to take rickon there. Cannibals and Unicorns are mentioned and Skagos is said to be inahbited by Cannibals and rumored to have unicorns living on it.

    Have you read the Dunk and Egg tales? He has three short stories in three complilation volumes that are pretty good. They tell the story of Dunk and Egg which is about a generation before the Ice and Fire series picks up. There are tie ins with people that we hear about in Ice and Fire. It helps understand the Targaryen families more.
    I've read the first two and both were fun. The last is on my shelf i'm saving it for when i'm in big time GRRM withdrawl.

    Oh!!!! Interesting! Yes I remember hearing about Skagos, but everything is so jumbled in my mind right now. I'm definitely going to do a complete re-read before Book 6 comes out. I have not heard of the Dunk & Egg stories, I will definitely check them out, thanks! :thumbup:
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    finally ive finished a dance with dragons. i refuse to believe that despite him being stabbed at least 4 times jon snow will die. perhaps he can go all wolfy and gain strength to recover. or mayhaps melisandre will heal him. oh and those boltons need to die. theyre too horrible to be allowed to live... especially at winterfell.
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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    Waiting very impatiently for book 6 bump.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Waiting very impatiently for book 6 bump.

    you were warned!! ... :lol:

    i think the thing that bugs me the most is that his fucking books don't need to be 1,200 pages long ... guy goes on and on unnecessarily a lot of times ... just fucking get on with it ... it's like how he is now ... :lol:

    for sure jon snow is not dead ... will definitely need to reread the books before book 6 comes out (2015?) ...
  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    polaris_x wrote:
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Waiting very impatiently for book 6 bump.

    you were warned!! ... :lol:

    i think the thing that bugs me the most is that his fucking books don't need to be 1,200 pages long ... guy goes on and on unnecessarily a lot of times ... just fucking get on with it ... it's like how he is now ... :lol:

    for sure jon snow is not dead ... will definitely need to reread the books before book 6 comes out (2015?) ...

    :lol: I know!!!! That's why it took me so long to finish ADWD...I didn't want it to end :( But yeah, you're right. He's got a case of the good old Stephen King rambling at times.

    Jon can't be dead. There's no way. Even if he comes back as Ghost...he'll be there. He has to. Definitely. Probably. Right?
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Jon can't be dead. There's no way. Even if he comes back as Ghost...he'll be there. He has to. Definitely. Probably. Right?

    like i said earlier ... near impossible to die in this series ... :lol: ... he's for sure coming back ... and now he's got no allegiance to the watch ...
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    At first i thought he was just having trouble writing and the next few books will come quicker.
    Now....
    no way is the next book out before 2016

    I also have my doubts he ever finishes it. :(
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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    intodeep wrote:
    At first i thought he was just having trouble writing and the next few books will come quicker.
    Now....
    no way is the next book out before 2016

    I also have my doubts he ever finishes it. :(

    Don't ever say that again. That kind of talk is not welcome here! :nono:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    intodeep wrote:
    At first i thought he was just having trouble writing and the next few books will come quicker.
    Now....
    no way is the next book out before 2016

    I also have my doubts he ever finishes it. :(

    Don't ever say that again. That kind of talk is not welcome here! :nono:

    i'm with the dark side on this one ... :lol:
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    So he just signed some kind of two year deal with HBO to help produce another show or some crap like that?

    Dude has no interst in finishing the books. That means his cash cow is done. I also assume he does not know how to finish them

    :(
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    intodeep wrote:
    So he just signed some kind of two year deal with HBO to help produce another show or some crap like that?

    Dude has no interst in finishing the books. That means his cash cow is done. I also assume he does not know how to finish them

    :(

    I'm not too worried yet, he always seems to be juggling a lot of things at once, whether it is writing, editing, traveling, working on the show, etc. I'm also pretty sure that with the series going strong, HBO is pushing him to finish these books as well. They know the show is going to catch up to him. My guess is WOW is out early 2015.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    intodeep wrote:
    So he just signed some kind of two year deal with HBO to help produce another show or some crap like that?

    Dude has no interst in finishing the books. That means his cash cow is done. I also assume he does not know how to finish them

    :(

    I'm not too worried yet, he always seems to be juggling a lot of things at once, whether it is writing, editing, traveling, working on the show, etc. I'm also pretty sure that with the series going strong, HBO is pushing him to finish these books as well. They know the show is going to catch up to him. My guess is WOW is out early 2015.

    isn't it absurd that it takes this guy that long to write these books? ... i mean - when you write an essay for school ... it's always the beginning that's the hardest ... the ending should have been figured out years ago ... his fucking problem is that he is on some kind of mission to write the most words possible to get across what's going on ... if i wasn't so heavily vested in Arya - i wouldn't give a shit ...
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    polaris_x wrote:
    intodeep wrote:
    So he just signed some kind of two year deal with HBO to help produce another show or some crap like that?

    Dude has no interst in finishing the books. That means his cash cow is done. I also assume he does not know how to finish them

    :(

    I'm not too worried yet, he always seems to be juggling a lot of things at once, whether it is writing, editing, traveling, working on the show, etc. I'm also pretty sure that with the series going strong, HBO is pushing him to finish these books as well. They know the show is going to catch up to him. My guess is WOW is out early 2015.

    isn't it absurd that it takes this guy that long to write these books? ... i mean - when you write an essay for school ... it's always the beginning that's the hardest ... the ending should have been figured out years ago ... his fucking problem is that he is on some kind of mission to write the most words possible to get across what's going on ... if i wasn't so heavily vested in Arya - i wouldn't give a shit ...

    I agree, I wish he would just sit down and say "I'm taking all of 2013 to work on these last two books" or the show and the books, put everything else on the back burner. I think he knows the end, but he created so many different story arcs that he is having trouble bringing them all together now.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    I agree, I wish he would just sit down and say "I'm taking all of 2013 to work on these last two books" or the show and the books, put everything else on the back burner. I think he knows the end, but he created so many different story arcs that he is having trouble bringing them all together now.

    based on the way he writes these books - i suspect his "book tours" are really him touring the world for high end courtesans ... :lol: