A Song Of Ice & Fire GRRM's Book Thread **Spoilers**

polaris_x

MotoDC wrote:

Don't you mean he better be righting write now...wait, I mean..what?

Anyhow, who do you guys think was most perfectly cast, besides Tyrion, ofc? A few folks have said Brienne, but to be honest, I didn't see her being a giant-sized, short-haired blond. I almost pictured her like a WNBA-sized, less feminine Julianne Moore. I know, I know, I'm kinda like wtf too. But the scenes with her in them almost look superimposed or something. At first I thought Arya, especially her "boyself", was a top-tier pick, but now I'm starting to think it's the eunich, Varys. Although I think the actor should play him more tittering, less sinister, he looks just like I expected him to look.

Oh, side note, I think Stannis was the least like I pictured him. Maybe Ser Mormont (Dany's guard) as well. He's too fair. Aren't Mormonts supposed to be dark and hairy like bears?

i'm not really following the show as I hate waiting week to week ... hence my cursing of martin for being a slow writer ... haha

although i do kinda see who is cast as what and i did watch the whole first season ..

i pictured brienne to not be a giant but just more butch (for lack of a better word) but also that with a little cleaning up - she would be attractive ...

casting i like: cersei, joffrey, that fucking kid of lysa arynn, jon snow, jamie
casting i don't like: bronn, catelyn, daenarys, stannis

intodeep

Casting I like That is Different From how i saw them but now i think is perfect:
Tyrion- In the book he seemed a little more ugly by description, but I don't think anyone could play him better. Dinklage is and forever will be Tyrion in my mind
Arya- A little like Tyrion she was described as horse faced but Maisie Williams is a pretty little girl. Plus she acts exactly how i image Arya would. Perfect casting as far as i'm concerned
Davos- Just not how i pictured him in my head but from what i've seen i think he is gonna be great
Magaery Tyrell- Um she is a little older but absolutely NO complaints. We need More of her

Casting i thought was spot on-
Ned Stark- I always thought Sean Bean would be Borimir in my head, but now .... I think he is Ned stark i don't know who else i'd want as Ned he is as i imagined him when reading.
Varys- Just how i thought he woudl be, although as someone said he is a bit more tittering
Littlefinger- I think he looks like i want him too but they have changed his character a bit. Littlefinger would never show his hand and have open pissing matches with Cersie and Varys
Robert Baratheon- Just as i pictured him. Maybe he could have been a little taller but that is it
Old Man Frey- Great casting of him
Great Jon Umber- Really like him when we get to see him. One of my fav smaller characters. I hope his role in the series is not over.

Casting Nothing like i saw them-
Stannis Baratheon- Actor seems capable but not the image i had
Renly baratheon-Seems too thin and frail. The baratheon's i thought were brad shouldered big dudes
Yara/Asha- UM SOO WRONG. Asha was a HOT sultry free spirit in my mind. The actress playing her is not unattractive but not as sultry as i thought she would be and not nearly as quick tongued.
Craster- Seemed off just not as dingy or soemthing.

Biggest casting mistakes
Writing out Meera Reed, Jojen reed, and THE MOTHERFUCKING BLACKFISH!

vant0037

intodeep wrote:

Biggest casting mistakes
Writing out Meera Reed, Jojen reed, and THE MOTHERFUCKING BLACKFISH!

Wait...what? Are the Reed's in the second book already? Gosh...I really need to pick up those books again. I can't remember shit!

Brynden Blackfish is pretty awesome too...I wonder if he meets up with resurrected Catelyn...

MotoDC

vant0037 wrote:

intodeep wrote:

Biggest casting mistakes
Writing out Meera Reed, Jojen reed, and THE MOTHERFUCKING BLACKFISH!

Wait...what? Are the Reed's in the second book already? Gosh...I really need to pick up those books again. I can't remember shit!

Brynden Blackfish is pretty awesome too...I wonder if he meets up with resurrected Catelyn...

That's what I was thinking. I'm trying to read the second book (again) at the same pace as the show, just for shits and giggles. I don't think the show is to the point where the Reeds and the Blackfish would have been introduced yet, so we shouldn't write them off yet. But I'm not sure -- I may be a couple chapters behind in the book?

intodeep

I'm 99% positive they were not cast for season 2 so i would not get our hopes up for them to be in this season of the show.
Maybe they shift the winterfall storyline and we get more of it in season three and we get the reeds then, but i think somehow they are going to have Bran's journey take place with Osha and Horder and Osha somehow helps Bran open up his green dreams.

Now of course who takes rickon away is the next question.... I'm not sure but since rickon is such a minor character i could see them just brushing over that. It does not seem to become important again until Book 5 when Manderly sends Davos to find him so really it does not become important until book 6 presumably when we catch up with him again. That is a long time in TV land to send Osha away when they seem to like her so much.

intodeep

MotoDC wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

intodeep wrote:

I don't think the show is to the point where the Reeds and the Blackfish would have been introduced yet

Blackfish should have been introduced last season When Cat Tyrion and Bronn are on the road to the Vale. It was Blackfish that meets Cat outside the Eerie instead of that knight. blackfish was the house guard but when Lysa tells Cat she won't help in the war He resigns and says he rather go with Cat to Riverun nad help out as he can.
He was actually essential to Rob because he becomes his lead scout and one of his most trusted advisor. He leads all the scouting teams out to judge Tywin's army.
then in Book two he is the one that goes off with Rob to the westerlands and helps lead those attacks.

Again sadly he was not casted and i think he won't be brought into the fold at all :(

MotoDC

intodeep wrote:

Blackfish should have been introduced last season When Cat Tyrion and Bronn are on the road to the Vale. It was Blackfish that meets Cat outside the Eerie instead of that knight. blackfish was the house guard but when Lysa tells Cat she won't help in the war He resigns and says he rather go with Cat to Riverun nad help out as he can.
He was actually essential to Rob because he becomes his lead scout and one of his most trusted advisor. He leads all the scouting teams out to judge Tywin's army.
then in Book two he is the one that goes off with Rob to the westerlands and helps lead those attacks.

Again sadly he was not casted and i think he won't be brought into the fold at all :(

Ah damn it, you're right. The Reeds, too, should be in the story by now I think as part of Bran and Rickon's storyline. They play that goofy game in the Winterfell godswood which ends up with Rickon's direwolf gnoshing on one of the Reeds' hands. haha

polaris_x

they wrote the reeds out? ... they save bran and rickon's life ... that seems wrong!

vant0037

intodeep wrote:

It does not seem to become important again until Book 5 when Manderly sends Davos to find him so really it does not become important until book 6 presumably when we catch up with him again. That is a long time in TV land to send Osha away when they seem to like her so much.

Huh? Haha...I am so befuddled...so much shit happened! When did it all happen? Why can't I remember the books?

So I remember when Davos is imprisoned by Manderly, but I don't remember Manderly sending Davos out to find Rickon. Does that happen?

intodeep

Am i the only one when watching Margaery Tyrell and Little finger interact wanted her to say:
I don't want to be a Queen I want to be THE Queen of THORNS!

I have a feeling the real queen of thorns won't be in the series and she is going to take that role

intodeep

vant0037 wrote:

intodeep wrote:

It does not seem to become important again until Book 5 when Manderly sends Davos to find him so really it does not become important until book 6 presumably when we catch up with him again. That is a long time in TV land to send Osha away when they seem to like her so much.

Huh? Haha...I am so befuddled...so much shit happened! When did it all happen? Why can't I remember the books?

So I remember when Davos is imprisoned by Manderly, but I don't remember Manderly sending Davos out to find Rickon. Does that happen?

Yep. THat happens. He is sending him to Skagos because that is where they believe him to be with Osha

MotoDC

OK I can't be trusted to post in the other "main" SoIaF thread because I'm having a hard time separating which of my memories are from the books and which are from the series, so I'll post here.

I just watched ep7 on HBO GO and I am shocked by how far they are deviating from the books. Am I forgetting EVERYthing? It seems to me that not just a little, but the majority of ep7 was fabricated. Jamie's escape (yes, he escaped in the books, but nothing like how it happened in the show), the ambush of Jon Snow, the theft of the dragons (admittedly, happened in ep6, but the retrieval was a major part of ep7), the murder of the 13, Cersei outright admitting to Tyrion that her children were Jaime's and not Roberts, the detailed conversations between Arya and Tywin, the manner in which Amory Lorch was killed...I'm sure I'm forgetting others. I'll forgive the romance of Robb and the sexy exotic chick, even though there are no such details in the book, since it plays into the main storyline.

Also, not a complaint, just a curiosity -- did they change the actor playing the Mountain?

intodeep

MotoDC wrote:

OK I can't be trusted to post in the other "main" SoIaF thread because I'm having a hard time separating which of my memories are from the books and which are from the series, so I'll post here.

I just watched ep7 on HBO GO and I am shocked by how far they are deviating from the books. Am I forgetting EVERYthing? It seems to me that not just a little, but the majority of ep7 was fabricated. Jamie's escape (yes, he escaped in the books, but nothing like how it happened in the show), the ambush of Jon Snow, the theft of the dragons (admittedly, happened in ep6, but the retrieval was a major part of ep7), the murder of the 13, Cersei outright admitting to Tyrion that her children were Jaime's and not Roberts, the detailed conversations between Arya and Tywin, the manner in which Amory Lorch was killed...I'm sure I'm forgetting others. I'll forgive the romance of Robb and the sexy exotic chick, even though there are no such details in the book, since it plays into the main storyline.

Also, not a complaint, just a curiosity -- did they change the actor playing the Mountain?

Yes the actor who was palying the Mountain left so they replaced him.

Everything you are talking about was changed. I kind of get why they are changing things with dany so much her story is downright boring. The changes with Tywin and Arya i'm okay with because both have really good acting chops and the scenes have been fantastic.

I think the exotic chick may actually still be Jeyne Westerling spying on rob and sending letters to tywin or at least working for tywin and spying on him.

the jon snow stuff annoys the hell out of me :fp:

So no you are not "Misremembering" they are making some changes they think will better serve to condense and move the plot along. some of them have worked others not so much in myopinion.

MotoDC

intodeep wrote:

MotoDC wrote:

OK I can't be trusted to post in the other "main" SoIaF thread because I'm having a hard time separating which of my memories are from the books and which are from the series, so I'll post here.

I just watched ep7 on HBO GO and I am shocked by how far they are deviating from the books. Am I forgetting EVERYthing? It seems to me that not just a little, but the majority of ep7 was fabricated. Jamie's escape (yes, he escaped in the books, but nothing like how it happened in the show), the ambush of Jon Snow, the theft of the dragons (admittedly, happened in ep6, but the retrieval was a major part of ep7), the murder of the 13, Cersei outright admitting to Tyrion that her children were Jaime's and not Roberts, the detailed conversations between Arya and Tywin, the manner in which Amory Lorch was killed...I'm sure I'm forgetting others. I'll forgive the romance of Robb and the sexy exotic chick, even though there are no such details in the book, since it plays into the main storyline.

Also, not a complaint, just a curiosity -- did they change the actor playing the Mountain?

Yes the actor who was palying the Mountain left so they replaced him.

Everything you are talking about was changed. I kind of get why they are changing things with dany so much her story is downright boring. The changes with Tywin and Arya i'm okay with because both have really good acting chops and the scenes have been fantastic.

I think the exotic chick may actually still be Jeyne Westerling spying on rob and sending letters to tywin or at least working for tywin and spying on him.

the jon snow stuff annoys the hell out of me :fp:

So no you are not "Misremembering" they are making some changes they think will better serve to condense and move the plot along. some of them have worked others not so much in myopinion.

Your comment about Arya and Tywin is exactly in line with what I was telling my wife last night -- it's not that I don't like the story that they're telling in the show. It's engrossing and entertaining, but it's not what was in the books. During season 1, my opinion was that I wouldn't have enjoyed the show nearly as much if I hadn't read the books. For season 2, it's the opposite. If I hadn't read the books, I could just enjoy the show for what it is, rather than obsessively comparing it to the "real" or original written story.

intodeep

Speaking of the books. GRRM seems to not be spending every waking hour of his life writing the winds of winter :nono:

I know he wants to do other things but he's not getting younger

polaris_x

intodeep wrote:

Speaking of the books. GRRM seems to not be spending every waking hour of his life writing the winds of winter :nono:

I know he wants to do other things but he's not getting younger

oh why oh why did i start reading these books!! ... cursed!

:twisted: :twisted:

intodeep

So do you all think Tyrion gets his nose chopped off or does he just get badly injuried but no perm scars?

PearlJamaholic

havent seen any season 2 but everything i heard about all the changes in the show i cant see them making tyrion ugly for the remainder of the series by hacking his nose off and giving him a wicked scab to pick at.

today i noticed something thinking about the books, is it just me or does grrm hate the martells? every martell character that leaves home pretty much gets killed right away. what is up with that? like all major martells we have met so far that go out on adventure is dead or am i forgetting someone?

elia
red viper
quentyn

total garbage! bring back red viper in zombie form and have him destroy the lannisters!

intodeep

PearlJamaholic wrote:

havent seen any season 2 but everything i heard about all the changes in the show i cant see them making tyrion ugly for the remainder of the series by hacking his nose off and giving him a wicked scab to pick at.

today i noticed something thinking about the books, is it just me or does grrm hate the martells? every martell character that leaves home pretty much gets killed right away. what is up with that? like all major martells we have met so far that go out on adventure is dead or am i forgetting someone?

elia
red viper
quentyn

total garbage! bring back red viper in zombie form and have him destroy the lannisters!

Zombie Viper vs Ser Robert (who has to be the mountain reanimated by quburn right???)

intodeep

Fantastic news for the TV show
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=90785

Winding down its sophomore season with next Sunday's finale, HBO's "Game of Thrones" has already been confirmed to return for a third season in 2013. Today, EW has a special sneak preview at a list of names that fans can expect to make appearances in the epic George R.R. Martin adaptation.

Mance Rayder, Daario Naharis, Edmure Tully, Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish), Lady Selyse Florent, Shireen, Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns), Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr and Jojen and Meera Reed are the characters that are currently planned to play a part in season three, said to adapt events from "A Storm of Swords." The magazine points out, though, that just because a character isn't on that list doesn't mean that he or she won't show up on your television screen next year.

The cast of season two includes Emmy and Golden Globe winner Peter Dinklage, Michelle Fairley, Lena Headey, Emilia Clarke, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Aidan Gillen, Iain Glen, Kit Harington, Richard Madden, Maisie Williams, Isaac Hempstead Wright, Sophie Turner, Jack Gleeson and Alfie Allen.

The series is executive produced by David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, Carolyn Strauss, Frank Doelger with co-executive producers George R.R. Martin, Vanessa Taylor, Alan Taylor, Guymon Casady, Vince Gerardis and Bernadette Caulfield produci

The Reeds and the Blackfish will finally make an appearance