I'm Canadian,and just watched ABC Nightly News talking with African American parents who are now telling their boys not to wear hoods up, keep your hands out of your pockets,to carry goods home from the store in bags with receipts, and to not approach or walk to closely to people, and I just feel very,very sad, and very,very sorry....I live in a very diverse community and really never give such incidents much thought of happening where I live,and I couldn't imagine the pain involved for all citizens....sending much love....
I have a strange feeling this guy Zimmermen will walk from any charges. That *Stand Your Ground* seems pretty powerful down here in Florida.
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Didn't read comments below your article but the article makes sense. Like I said, media bias.
Remember when Obama was being all racist when he called out the "white" cop who arrested the "black" professor at his own front doorstep? All Obama knew about the situation was color. He later admitted he jumped to conclusions and that it was a "teachable moment" and then had a beer summit.
Media just stirring the pot here too with one sided reporting. Most in this thread take this crap hook line and sinker.
Didn't read comments below your article but the article makes sense. Like I said, media bias.
Remember when Obama was being all racist when he called out the "white" cop who arrested the "black" professor at his own front doorstep? All Obama knew about the situation was color. He later admitted he jumped to conclusions and that it was a "teachable moment" and then had a beer summit.
Media just stirring the pot here too with one sided reporting. Most in this thread take this crap hook line and sinker.
I have a strange feeling this guy Zimmermen will walk from any charges. That *Stand Your Ground* seems pretty powerful down here in Florida.
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The "Stand Your Ground" Law was not intended to protect a person that follows someone as Zimmerman did. Former Gov. Jeb Bush and the State Rep. who wrote the law, Dr. Dennis Baxley, wrote an op ed column and stated " This law does not seem to be applicable to the tragedy that happened in Sanford. “There is nothing . . . in Florida statutes that authenticates or provides for the opportunity to pursue and confront individuals, it simply protects those who would be potential victims by allowing for force to be used in self-defense.”
Florida Gov. Rick Scott has appointed a special prosecutor and the FDLE is performing and independent investigation. I hope justice and the truth will come out.
Read more on Newsmax.com: Stand Your Ground Author: Trayvon Martin Case Not Covered by Law
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
I have a strange feeling this guy Zimmermen will walk from any charges. That *Stand Your Ground* seems pretty powerful down here in Florida.
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The "Stand Your Ground" Law was not intended to protect a person that follows someone as Zimmerman did. Former Gov. Jeb Bush and the State Rep. who wrote the law, Dr. Dennis Baxley, wrote an op ed column and stated " This law does not seem to be applicable to the tragedy that happened in Sanford. “There is nothing . . . in Florida statutes that authenticates or provides for the opportunity to pursue and confront individuals, it simply protects those who would be potential victims by allowing for force to be used in self-defense.”
Florida Gov. Rick Scott has appointed a special prosecutor and the FDLE is performing and independent investigation. I hope justice and the truth will come out.
Read more on Newsmax.com: Stand Your Ground Author: Trayvon Martin Case Not Covered by Law
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
I know all of this it's just that Zimmermen and his law team will TRY and stand behind this law regardless of what it says. Even though he may have persued Martin, IMO the law is just too vague.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm Canadian,and just watched ABC Nightly News talking with African American parents who are now telling their boys not to wear hoods up, keep your hands out of your pockets,to carry goods home from the store in bags with receipts, and to not approach or walk to closely to people, and I just feel very,very sad, and very,very sorry....I live in a very diverse community and really never give such incidents much thought of happening where I live,and I couldn't imagine the pain involved for all citizens....sending much love....
it's odd that clothing stiles and the way they are worn are stereotyped and cause alarm by police and ...wanna be rent a cops but that being said this type of clothing is often associated with ganster and/or thug life and young kid's good or bad were this type of clothing because it's what is in stile (it's the cool look) and this way way for a lot of different groups of people..bikers hip hop/rappers and different coltures and the more these people are involved in crimes dressed in this type of clothing it creates an image or something to look for when policing a area (stereotyping),I have been pulled over and forced to take parts off my bike that they(cops) thought could hide..what ever and they take a picture of you and start a file and I have been put on the groung with a gun aimed at me because of what I was wearing so in short if you know this going into places
then you should know that getting rousted can happen, but this bone head wanna be rent a cop crossed the line and should pay for his actions plain and simple.
If you're following someone and on the phone with 911 and have a gun
why get out of the car ? If you feel threatened stay in the car and wait for the police
It's obvious he wanted street justice and wanted to take it in his own hands
He was told to stop following the kid. Even if he ignored the dispatcher and kept following
until the police came to question what was going on. I grew up in Philly
If a car was following me I would stop and ask the guy what his problem is at the age of 17
and if he came at me of course I'm gonna defend myself.
Just seems like the kid was followed and confronted so the guy could pull his gun and say "self defense"
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If you're following someone and on the phone with 911 and have a gun
why get out of the car ? If you feel threatened stay in the car and wait for the police
It's obvious he wanted street justice and wanted to take it in his own hands
He was told to stop following the kid. Even if he ignored the dispatcher and kept following
until the police came to question what was going on. I grew up in Philly
If a car was following me I would stop and ask the guy what his problem is at the age of 17
and if he came at me of course I'm gonna defend myself.
Just seems like the kid was followed and confronted so the guy could pull his gun and say "self defense"
if you grew up in philly surely you understand that young black males are attacking other black males, asians and whites at a far more alarming rate than they are being attacked. where is the outrage and protests for those victims? philly is averaging almost one murder a day this year, mostly by young black males. where is the outrage there? sorry the kid got killed but no reason for the number of protests in the number of cities.
If you're following someone and on the phone with 911 and have a gun
why get out of the car ? If you feel threatened stay in the car and wait for the police
It's obvious he wanted street justice and wanted to take it in his own hands
He was told to stop following the kid. Even if he ignored the dispatcher and kept following
until the police came to question what was going on. I grew up in Philly
If a car was following me I would stop and ask the guy what his problem is at the age of 17
and if he came at me of course I'm gonna defend myself.
Just seems like the kid was followed and confronted so the guy could pull his gun and say "self defense"
if you grew up in philly surely you understand that young black males are attacking other black males, asians and whites at a far more alarming rate than they are being attacked. where is the outrage and protests for those victims? philly is averaging almost one murder a day this year, mostly by young black males. where is the outrage there? sorry the kid got killed but no reason for the number of protests in the number of cities.
Why the protests? Because everyone knows who did it and he still hasn't been charged.
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if you grew up in philly surely you understand that young black males are attacking other black males, asians and whites at a far more alarming rate than they are being attacked. where is the outrage and protests for those victims? philly is averaging almost one murder a day this year, mostly by young black males. where is the outrage there? sorry the kid got killed but no reason for the number of protests in the number of cities.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
If you're following someone and on the phone with 911 and have a gun
why get out of the car ? If you feel threatened stay in the car and wait for the police
It's obvious he wanted street justice and wanted to take it in his own hands
He was told to stop following the kid. Even if he ignored the dispatcher and kept following
until the police came to question what was going on. I grew up in Philly
If a car was following me I would stop and ask the guy what his problem is at the age of 17
and if he came at me of course I'm gonna defend myself.
Just seems like the kid was followed and confronted so the guy could pull his gun and say "self defense"
if you grew up in philly surely you understand that young black males are attacking other black males, asians and whites at a far more alarming rate than they are being attacked. where is the outrage and protests for those victims? philly is averaging almost one murder a day this year, mostly by young black males. where is the outrage there? sorry the kid got killed but no reason for the number of protests in the number of cities.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
pjhawks made a valid point and this post is how you reply ??? talk about ramblings and lack of rational thought cliffy....your post reads like the made ramblings of a racist jesse jackson or al sharpton, you're way off base cliffy.
if you grew up in philly surely you understand that young black males are attacking other black males, asians and whites at a far more alarming rate than they are being attacked. where is the outrage and protests for those victims? philly is averaging almost one murder a day this year, mostly by young black males. where is the outrage there? sorry the kid got killed but no reason for the number of protests in the number of cities.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
pjhawks made a valid point and this post is how you reply ??? talk about ramblings and lack of rational thought cliffy....your post reads like the made ramblings of a racist jesse jackson or al sharpton, you're way off base cliffy.
if you grew up in philly surely you understand that young black males are attacking other black males, asians and whites at a far more alarming rate than they are being attacked. where is the outrage and protests for those victims? philly is averaging almost one murder a day this year, mostly by young black males. where is the outrage there? sorry the kid got killed but no reason for the number of protests in the number of cities.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
pjhawks made a valid point and this post is how you reply ??? talk about ramblings and lack of rational thought cliffy....your post reads like the made ramblings of a racist jesse jackson or al sharpton, you're way off base cliffy.
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It's from Billy Madison. But I agree with it in this case.
But really, what does urban violence have anything to do with Trayvon Martin and what happened here? Of course it's sad when anyone dies but urban violence has nothing to do with this and is a completely different conversation. That fact is, this kid was literally hunted by a racist psychopath because of his skin color. You think people are off base for protesting the fact that a psycho carrying a gun murdered a good young kid for no fucking reason other than his skin color and nothing was done about it? Come on.
billy madison ????? guess I got kicked in the ass by movie trivia ...sorry cliffy.
I agree with your reply about this guy being a wacko piece of crap, I did not see or hear the racism in this case but I don't know what he was thinking...I hope it was not rasism.
Well, I'm sure you know people can actually use their fists, no? Not saying this is the case in this situation, I don't know, but to dismiss it as a possibility would be silly as people beat the hell out of other people everyday with their fists.
so a 17 year old kid is going to batter a 28 year old man? the man hunted him down and confronted him. if ANYONE has the right to claim self defense and punch someone to defend himself, it is trayvon martin. he was hunted down.
this is the difference between hunting animals and hunting people. sometimes people punch back...
It was probably racially motivated.
It was probably not self defence.
It was probably murder.
But probably shouldn't be cause to claim the man is guilty of any of those. I find it disturbing that intelligent people are so quick to judge this case as closed when there could be so much more to it that the public doesn't know.
Saying a man is black to a 911 dispatcher doesn't prove racism, it proves eyesight.
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But probably shouldn't be cause to claim the man is guilty of any of those. I find it disturbing that intelligent people are so quick to judge this case as closed when there could be so much more to it that the public doesn't know.
Saying a man is black to a 911 dispatcher doesn't prove racism, it proves eyesight.
what does "these assholes always get away" mean?
what about the mumbling on that same phone call that sounds to many people like he said "fucking coon"?
of all 46 or 48 times he called 911 he was reporting young minorities, as if they were the only ones that he found to be acting suspciously. that is a pattern of prejudicial behavior and thinking right there, and it speaks volumes that he was profiling people...
this shooter lived in fear. he lived in fear of african americans. he had an irrational fear of them. and that fear caused him to hunt one of them down and murder one of them.
he carried a gun on the neighborhood watch, which he was not supposed to do. he acted like a police officer would act, which again, a neighborhood watchperson is prohibited from doing. he walked after him and pursued him when he was told not to, and he started shit with him when he clearly could have let trayvon be. this man is a coward and a murderer.
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Well, I'm sure you know people can actually use their fists, no? Not saying this is the case in this situation, I don't know, but to dismiss it as a possibility would be silly as people beat the hell out of other people everyday with their fists.
so a 17 year old kid is going to batter a 28 year old man? the man hunted him down and confronted him. if ANYONE has the right to claim self defense and punch someone to defend himself, it is trayvon martin. he was hunted down.
this is the difference between hunting animals and hunting people. sometimes people punch back...
It was probably racially motivated.
It was probably not self defence.
It was probably murder.
But probably shouldn't be cause to claim the man is guilty of any of those. I find it disturbing that intelligent people are so quick to judge this case as closed when there could be so much more to it that the public doesn't know.
Saying a man is black to a 911 dispatcher doesn't prove racism, it proves eyesight.
HFD is that you ?....holy crap man I have to say I agree with you.......I need a beer and smoke to take all this in.
But probably shouldn't be cause to claim the man is guilty of any of those. I find it disturbing that intelligent people are so quick to judge this case as closed when there could be so much more to it that the public doesn't know.
Saying a man is black to a 911 dispatcher doesn't prove racism, it proves eyesight.
what does "these assholes always get away" mean?
what about the mumbling on that same phone call that sounds to many people like he said "fucking coon"?
of all 46 or 48 times he called 911 he was reporting young minorities, as if they were the only ones that he found to be acting suspciously. that is a pattern of prejudicial behavior and thinking right there, and it speaks volumes that he was profiling people...
this shooter lived in fear. he lived in fear of african americans. he had an irrational fear of them. and that fear caused him to hunt one of them down and murder one of them.
he carried a gun on the neighborhood watch, which he was not supposed to do. he acted like a police officer would act, which again, a neighborhood watchperson is prohibited from doing. he walked after him and pursued him when he was told not to, and he started shit with him when he clearly could have let trayvon be. this man is a coward and a murderer.
Gimmi I have been watching this all weekend on every news channel I could and to yell you the truth I think the media is making this a nation wide racism case with no real backing on their broadcasting and all that will do is create riots and more killing if this guy is not convicted of murder.
But probably shouldn't be cause to claim the man is guilty of any of those. I find it disturbing that intelligent people are so quick to judge this case as closed when there could be so much more to it that the public doesn't know.
Saying a man is black to a 911 dispatcher doesn't prove racism, it proves eyesight.
what does "these assholes always get away" mean?
what about the mumbling on that same phone call that sounds to many people like he said "fucking coon"?
of all 46 or 48 times he called 911 he was reporting young minorities, as if they were the only ones that he found to be acting suspciously. that is a pattern of prejudicial behavior and thinking right there, and it speaks volumes that he was profiling people...
this shooter lived in fear. he lived in fear of african americans. he had an irrational fear of them. and that fear caused him to hunt one of them down and murder one of them.
he carried a gun on the neighborhood watch, which he was not supposed to do. he acted like a police officer would act, which again, a neighborhood watchperson is prohibited from doing. he walked after him and pursued him when he was told not to, and he started shit with him when he clearly could have let trayvon be. this man is a coward and a murderer.
yes, gimmie, I totally get all that and I agree with you, with the information that we know. I, however, am not ready to lock the guy up and throw the key away without due process. I THINK all of what you said is true, but I can't say that I KNOW. I don't think anyone can. People have been wrongly accused and/or convicted on more information than this.
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HFD is that you ?....holy crap man I have to say I agree with you.......I need a beer and smoke to take all this in.
Godfather.
yeah, I know. I was looking through this thread and thinking "why am I agreeing with the people I'm agreeing with here? "
I agree with you as well. But the problem here is that not only are we not throwing away the key, but there was never even an arrest or an investigation in the first place. If it wasn't for media attention, no one would have ever investigated this case whatsoever!!
And I don't doubt that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman after Zimmerman followed him. But because Zimmerman was an idiot rent-a-cop, he put himself into a bad situation where he chose to kill someone. If he's not criminally responsible, he is no doubt in my mind legally responsible. If he doesn't pay through a prison, I think he will definitely pay through his wallet.
HFD is that you ?....holy crap man I have to say I agree with you.......I need a beer and smoke to take all this in.
Godfather.
yeah, I know. I was looking through this thread and thinking "why am I agreeing with the people I'm agreeing with here? "
I agree with you as well. But the problem here is that not only are we not throwing away the key, but there was never even an arrest or an investigation in the first place. If it wasn't for media attention, no one would have ever investigated this case whatsoever!!
And I don't doubt that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman after Zimmerman followed him. But because Zimmerman was an idiot rent-a-cop, he put himself into a bad situation where he chose to kill someone. If he's not criminally responsible, he is no doubt in my mind legally responsible. If he doesn't pay through a prison, I think he will definitely pay through his wallet.
guys like him will never pay a dime to anyone ..he just wont have the money and he will end up living on a government program the rest of his life.
When I think of the Duke Lacrosse case, the Tawana Brawley case, and just so people don't think I'm only bringing up cases associated with race I'll throw in the case against Richard Jewel as well, at this point I think it's best for me not to make up my mind until all of the evidence is heard. We all know how the media tends to convict people. :?
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Unbelievable and terrible sad.
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This article really started me off on the wrong foot this morning. Most of the comments on the bottom disgust me.
Remember when Obama was being all racist when he called out the "white" cop who arrested the "black" professor at his own front doorstep? All Obama knew about the situation was color. He later admitted he jumped to conclusions and that it was a "teachable moment" and then had a beer summit.
Media just stirring the pot here too with one sided reporting. Most in this thread take this crap hook line and sinker.
Florida Gov. Rick Scott has appointed a special prosecutor and the FDLE is performing and independent investigation. I hope justice and the truth will come out.
Read more on Newsmax.com: Stand Your Ground Author: Trayvon Martin Case Not Covered by Law
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
I know all of this it's just that Zimmermen and his law team will TRY and stand behind this law regardless of what it says. Even though he may have persued Martin, IMO the law is just too vague.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
it's odd that clothing stiles and the way they are worn are stereotyped and cause alarm by police and ...wanna be rent a cops but that being said this type of clothing is often associated with ganster and/or thug life and young kid's good or bad were this type of clothing because it's what is in stile (it's the cool look) and this way way for a lot of different groups of people..bikers hip hop/rappers and different coltures and the more these people are involved in crimes dressed in this type of clothing it creates an image or something to look for when policing a area (stereotyping),I have been pulled over and forced to take parts off my bike that they(cops) thought could hide..what ever and they take a picture of you and start a file and I have been put on the groung with a gun aimed at me because of what I was wearing so in short if you know this going into places
then you should know that getting rousted can happen, but this bone head wanna be rent a cop crossed the line and should pay for his actions plain and simple.
Godfather.
If you're following someone and on the phone with 911 and have a gun
why get out of the car ? If you feel threatened stay in the car and wait for the police
It's obvious he wanted street justice and wanted to take it in his own hands
He was told to stop following the kid. Even if he ignored the dispatcher and kept following
until the police came to question what was going on. I grew up in Philly
If a car was following me I would stop and ask the guy what his problem is at the age of 17
and if he came at me of course I'm gonna defend myself.
Just seems like the kid was followed and confronted so the guy could pull his gun and say "self defense"
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A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
if you grew up in philly surely you understand that young black males are attacking other black males, asians and whites at a far more alarming rate than they are being attacked. where is the outrage and protests for those victims? philly is averaging almost one murder a day this year, mostly by young black males. where is the outrage there? sorry the kid got killed but no reason for the number of protests in the number of cities.
Why the protests? Because everyone knows who did it and he still hasn't been charged.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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He's quoting Billy Madison.
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It's from Billy Madison. But I agree with it in this case.
But really, what does urban violence have anything to do with Trayvon Martin and what happened here? Of course it's sad when anyone dies but urban violence has nothing to do with this and is a completely different conversation. That fact is, this kid was literally hunted by a racist psychopath because of his skin color. You think people are off base for protesting the fact that a psycho carrying a gun murdered a good young kid for no fucking reason other than his skin color and nothing was done about it? Come on.
I agree with your reply about this guy being a wacko piece of crap, I did not see or hear the racism in this case but I don't know what he was thinking...I hope it was not rasism.
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It was probably racially motivated.
It was probably not self defence.
It was probably murder.
But probably shouldn't be cause to claim the man is guilty of any of those. I find it disturbing that intelligent people are so quick to judge this case as closed when there could be so much more to it that the public doesn't know.
Saying a man is black to a 911 dispatcher doesn't prove racism, it proves eyesight.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
what about the mumbling on that same phone call that sounds to many people like he said "fucking coon"?
of all 46 or 48 times he called 911 he was reporting young minorities, as if they were the only ones that he found to be acting suspciously. that is a pattern of prejudicial behavior and thinking right there, and it speaks volumes that he was profiling people...
this shooter lived in fear. he lived in fear of african americans. he had an irrational fear of them. and that fear caused him to hunt one of them down and murder one of them.
he carried a gun on the neighborhood watch, which he was not supposed to do. he acted like a police officer would act, which again, a neighborhood watchperson is prohibited from doing. he walked after him and pursued him when he was told not to, and he started shit with him when he clearly could have let trayvon be. this man is a coward and a murderer.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
HFD is that you ?....holy crap man I have to say I agree with you.......I need a beer and smoke to take all this in.
Godfather.
Gimmi I have been watching this all weekend on every news channel I could and to yell you the truth I think the media is making this a nation wide racism case with no real backing on their broadcasting and all that will do is create riots and more killing if this guy is not convicted of murder.
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yes, gimmie, I totally get all that and I agree with you, with the information that we know. I, however, am not ready to lock the guy up and throw the key away without due process. I THINK all of what you said is true, but I can't say that I KNOW. I don't think anyone can. People have been wrongly accused and/or convicted on more information than this.
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yeah, I know. I was looking through this thread and thinking "why am I agreeing with the people I'm agreeing with here? "
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I agree with you as well. But the problem here is that not only are we not throwing away the key, but there was never even an arrest or an investigation in the first place. If it wasn't for media attention, no one would have ever investigated this case whatsoever!!
And I don't doubt that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman after Zimmerman followed him. But because Zimmerman was an idiot rent-a-cop, he put himself into a bad situation where he chose to kill someone. If he's not criminally responsible, he is no doubt in my mind legally responsible. If he doesn't pay through a prison, I think he will definitely pay through his wallet.
guys like him will never pay a dime to anyone ..he just wont have the money and he will end up living on a government program the rest of his life.
Godfather.