Trayvon Martin

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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,067
    goingtoverona wrote:
    he had a tek 9? i don't think you're allowed to carry that in public even with a carry conceal.

    Yes and EXACTLY!
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  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    well hopefully if that's the case, they will tack on some extra gun charges to his ass
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,193
    goingtoverona wrote:
    yeah i realize that, but you said he shouldn't have had a gun in the first place, i just want to know how that would be possible.
    a neighborhood watch man should not carry a gun and be hunting down potential perps. he is there to observe and call the police and let them deal with it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    dude, i agree 100 percent, so please blame the fuckhead that made the choices and not the gun.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,193
    goingtoverona wrote:
    dude, i agree 100 percent, so please blame the fuckhead that made the choices and not the gun.
    who blamed the gun???????

    seriously, the 2nd amendment will never be overturned, so please debate this topic or start a gun control thread.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    my bad, i could have sworn you said the issue was the man should not have had a gun. implying if guns were prohibited he wouldn't have had a gun and therefore the kid would still be alive. my apologies for misreading what you said.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,067
    goingtoverona wrote:
    dude, i agree 100 percent, so please blame the fuckhead that made the choices and not the gun.

    This fuckhead shouldn't have had access to that gun.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    This guy needs to sit and think about what he did in a cell for life. Did he think he was some kind of a badass security guard? Some really think they are the law. The boy was probably lost and had no idea where to go. Probably too shy to ask. I did the same thing as a kid at a Disney Resort... I got lost after going to get breakfast for the family and looked at people but I was too shy to ask anyone where to go. Just go out and ask the kid if he needs help. "Can I help you?" Jesus, this just makes me sick.
  • USARAY
    USARAY Posts: 517
    goingtoverona wrote:
    dude, i agree 100 percent, so please blame the fuckhead that made the choices and not the gun.
    + 1
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Fuck this dude. Anyone who thinks this isn't racist is an idiot and lives in their own world. Fuck him. Send him to general population in prision and see how tough this fuck is.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    don't 9 out of 10 kids choose crayola crayons over guns? i remember reading that some time ago...forgot where though.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Fuck this dude. Anyone who thinks this isn't racist is an idiot and lives in their own world. Fuck him. Send him to general population in prision and see how tough this fuck is.


    :lol::lol::lol: how long would you last in general population ? I've seen some big tough guys cry like school girls screaming for mommy..but as you say..fuck em..right ? if you want to see racism then take your ...self to jail for a while... guys like you scream racism but probably have no idea what it really is ;)

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,193
    it gets deeper.... :twisted: :twisted:


    Trayvon Martin Exclusive: Friend on Phone with Teen Before Death Recalls Final Moments

    http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-kil ... -news.html

    In the final moments of his life, Trayvon Martin was being hounded by a strange man on a cellphone who ran after him, cornered him and confronted him, according to the teenage girl whose call logs show she was on the phone with the 17-year-old boy in the moments before neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman shot him dead.

    Martin's death Feb. 26 has stirred national outrage and protests, partly prompting the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division and the FBI to open an investigation into the case.

    Florida State Attorney Norm Wolfinger announced today that he has ordered an "expeditious review" of the investigation conducted by the Sanford police department and that he would be "utilizing the investigative resources of the Seminole County Grand Jury which will be called to session" next month.

    Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump held a news conference today detailing Trayvon Martin's phone call as he was followed, confronted and killed.

    "The dots have all been connected. Arrested George Zimmerman for killing Trayvon Martin in killing in cold blood right now," Crump said.

    "We don't understand how he's not arrested. The family worries that the more time passes it will be swept under the rug," the lawyer said.

    ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life.

    "He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."

    Eventually he would run, said the girl, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin.

    "Trayvon said, 'What, are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone    ."

    The line went dead. Besides screams heard on 911 calls that night as Martin and Zimmerman scuffled, those were the last words he said.

    Trayvon's phone logs, also obtained exclusively by ABC News, show the conversation occurred five minutes before police first arrived on scene. The young woman's parents asked that her name not be used, and that only an attorney could ask her questions.

    Martin's father, Tracey Martin, and mother, Sybrina Fulton, listened to the call along with ABC News, ashen-faced.

    "He knew he was being followed and tried to get away from the guy, and the guy still caught up with him," Tracey Martin said. "And that's the most disturbing part. He thought he had got away from the guy and the guy back-tracked for him."

    The teen was killed by Zimmerman while walking back to his father's fiancés home after stepping out to buy Skittles and some iced tea during the NBA All-Star Game. After weeks of relentless pressure, the Sanford Police have decided to release emergency and non-emergency calls placed during the incident.

    "These a**holes always get away," Zimmerman says in a call to a non-emergency number.

    Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"

    Zimmerman: "Yeah."

    Dispatcher: "We don't need you to do that    ."

    An altercation soon ensued. A few moments later a torrent of 911 calls flooded in and Martin was killed by a single bullet. Zimmerman claimed self-defense and has yet to be arrested, stoking outrage and claims of prejudice against the police department.

    "When George Zimmerman is arrested, tried and convicted I will get a little rest," Tracey Martin said.

    Phone records that indicate the time of the girl's call with Trayvon Martin before his death.

    According to a statement by the Justice Department, "The department will conduct a thorough and independent review of all of the evidence and take appropriate action and the conclusion of the investigation. … The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person acted intentionally and with the specific intent to do something which the law forbids. Negligence, recklessness, mistakes and accidents are not prosecutable under the federal criminal civil rights laws."

    Nearly half a million people have signed an online petition on change.org urging law enforcement officials to step in and arrest Zimmerman. Protests have played out in the Florida town all week with a large gathering expected Thursday.

    Zimmerman violated major principles of the Neighborhood Watch manual, ABC News has learned. The manual from the Neighborhood Watch program states: "It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers. And they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles."

    According to Chris Tutko, the director of the National Neighborhood Watch program, there are about 22,000 registered watch groups nationwide, and Zimmerman was not part of a registered group, which police were not aware of at the time of the incident.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Fuck this dude. Anyone who thinks this isn't racist is an idiot and lives in their own world. Fuck him. Send him to general population in prision and see how tough this fuck is.


    :lol::lol::lol: how long would you last in general population ? I've seen some big tough guys cry like school girls screaming for mommy..but as you say..fuck em..right ? if you want to see racism then take your ...self to jail for a while... guys like you scream racism but probably have no idea what it really is ;)

    Godfather.

    Hence why I am never going to end up in jail. Not that complicated.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,067
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Fuck this dude. Anyone who thinks this isn't racist is an idiot and lives in their own world. Fuck him. Send him to general population in prision and see how tough this fuck is.


    :lol::lol::lol: how long would you last in general population ? I've seen some big tough guys cry like school girls screaming for mommy..but as you say..fuck em..right ? if you want to see racism then take your ...self to jail for a while... guys like you scream racism but probably have no idea what it really is ;)

    Godfather.

    If they did what he did then yes, fuck them. Also, where are you seeing this?
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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:

    According to Chris Tutko, the director of the National Neighborhood Watch program, there are about 22,000 registered watch groups nationwide, and Zimmerman was not part of a registered group, which police were not aware of at the time of the incident.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

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    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Zimmerman violated major principles of the Neighborhood Watch manual, ABC News has learned. The manual from the Neighborhood Watch program states: "It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers. And they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles."

    According to Chris Tutko, the director of the National Neighborhood Watch program, there are about 22,000 registered watch groups nationwide, and Zimmerman was not part of a registered group, which police were not aware of at the time of the incident.

    soo ... why were the police quick to defend this guy!?? ...
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Rf4G0J ... re=related

    a local station there gave the statute 'justifiable use of force' to 'legal experts' and they say it can't be used here because the police told him to not confront Trayvon.

    i think this guy's gonna end up fucked in more ways than one
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    polaris_x wrote:

    these are the facts:

    * unarmed young black male gets accosted by an armed white neighbourhood watch guy who was explicitly told to avoid confrontation
    Are you positive on Zimmerman's ethnicity?
    Be Excellent To Each Other
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:

    these are the facts:

    * unarmed young black male gets accosted by an armed white neighbourhood watch guy who was explicitly told to avoid confrontation
    Are you positive on Zimmerman's ethnicity?

    dad says he is hispanic ... his picture is hard to tell ... zimmerman doesn't sound very hispanic to me ... either way ... he wasn't black ... and like i tried to tell godfather and cincy ... i don't think racism exists only against black people ...

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