Trayvon Martin

drinkbigredinstead

maj4e wrote:

Right so everytime someone steps on your toe you can just kill them. That's what this stupid law is turning in to.

There will ALWAYS be people trying to use the law to their advantage...that doesn't make it a bad law.

RW81233

drinkbigredinstead wrote:

maj4e wrote:

Right so everytime someone steps on your toe you can just kill them. That's what this stupid law is turning in to.

There will ALWAYS be people trying to use the law to their advantage...that doesn't make it a bad law.

tell that to your dead family member

hedonist

RW81233 wrote:

drinkbigredinstead wrote:

maj4e wrote:

Right so everytime someone steps on your toe you can just kill them. That's what this stupid law is turning in to.

There will ALWAYS be people trying to use the law to their advantage...that doesn't make it a bad law.

tell that to your dead family member

That was unnecessarily harsh, don't you think?

JonnyPistachio

unsung wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

However, its time to re-think the Stand your ground laws.

No it isn't.

Too late, its already under major scrutiny:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

"The task force — which includes prosecutors, defense attorneys, police executives and politicians — could advocate repeal or specific changes or decide not to make recommendations, Smith said. It’s unclear whether the Republican-controlled Legislature would consider any of its proposals, particularly since GOP Gov. Rick Scott has pledged to appoint his own task force after the Martin investigation is complete."

Deaths where self defense is claimed have skyrocketed in florida since this law.
If two people get in a fight, it shouldnt be so easy to kill a person and get off the hook. Its extremely controversial and ambiguous. yeah, thats real smart, lets not even think about the repercussions of this law :roll:

JonnyPistachio

drinkbigredinstead wrote:

maj4e wrote:

Right so everytime someone steps on your toe you can just kill them. That's what this stupid law is turning in to.

There will ALWAYS be people trying to use the law to their advantage...that doesn't make it a bad law.

When there's unnecessary death, it sure does.

gimmesometruth27

unsung wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

However, its time to re-think the Stand your ground laws.

No it isn't.

so a guy in a hoodie stepped to me tonight while i was pumping gas....do i have your authority to bust a cap in his fucking head or can i have a reasoned discussion with the kid and buy him a milky way and let him live???



based on this thread i have a right to make his mom sonless....

RW81233

hedonist wrote:

RW81233 wrote:

That was unnecessarily harsh, don't you think?

if you had a family member die and have his killer get away with it b/c of the law i don't you think what i wrote was either unnecessary or harsh.

RW81233

http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon ... n-case.php
USA Today poll reveals stark racial differences in perceptions of Trayvon Martin case
By Alexis Garrett Stodghill
2:31 PM on 04/06/2012
READ MORE: Gallup, Pew Research Center, Trayvon Martin, Trayvon Martin case, Trayvon Martin Shooting, USA Today

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A recent USA Today/Gallup poll reveals stark racial differences in perceptions of justice regarding the Trayvon Martin case.

A recent USA Today/Gallup poll reveals stark racial differences in perceptions of justice regarding the Trayvon Martin case. The poll results, which the paper details as the most polarized to date, show that 73 percent of blacks believe that George Zimmerman would have been arrested if Trayvon Martin had been white. By contrast, only 33 percent of whites believe this to be the case.
Similarly, 52 percent of whites believe that race is not a significant factor in how the shooting of the unarmed teen on Feb. 26 is being handled by authorities.
The Pew Research Center has also discovered a schism between how blacks and whites perceive media coverage of the Travyon Martin controversy. According to a study regarding news reports on the incident, 43 percent of whites versus 16 percent of blacks say the story has been covered "too much."
In addition, the relative perceptions of how much attention Martin's story has garnered splits across political lines. Republicans, at 56 percent, are much more likely to believe the press is overemphasizing the incident, compared to only 25 percent of Democrats.
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Lack of investigation into Zimmerman's claims, combined with what many perceived to be racially motivated bias in police conduct, have unleashed a firestorm of debate regarding the case. Related issues such as racial profiling, gun control and the implications of the Castle Doctrine have been hotly debated, leading to intense media coverage of the incident and its aftermath.

RW81233

http://www.ebony.com/news-views/dear-wh ... ing-racism

Dear White folks:
Between the racist comments, the constant use of the race denial card (this country's most frequently used "race card") and the absurd claims of White victimhood, you have really grated my last nerve.
Sure, we got teary during The Blind Side and Antoine Fisher; we maybe even gave money to KONY2012 and after Hurricane Katrina; we maybe even donned a hoodie to protest the murder of Trayvon Martin. I don’t even doubt there are individuals out there who are genuinely concerned about racism and injustice; I don’t doubt that there are many Whites that marched with Dr. King and whose “best friends” might be Black. None of this matters if African Americans continue to die at the hands of guns held by security guards and police officers all without justice
I have heard that “we are all Trayvon Martin” over the last few weeks, yet we are not Trayvon Martin – and we never could be. White America is never suspicious. White America can walk to the store without fear of being hunted down. White America can count on justice and a nation grieving at the loss of White life. We aren't Trayvon Martin, we are George Zimmerman: presumed innocent until proven innocent.
I want you to close your eyes for a second, and imagine that your son or daughter, sister or brother, granddaughter or grandson, ventured to the corner store for some Skittles and tea but never returned? Can you imagine if Peter or Jan were gunned down right around the corner from your house and the police didn’t notify you right away? Can you imagine if little Sydney or Bobby sat in the morgue for days as you searched to find out what happened them? Can you even imagine the police letting the perpetrator go or the news media remaining silent? Can you even fathom learning about background and drug tests on your child? Can you imagine the news media demonizing your child, blaming your child for his own death?
Can you imagine the outcry if seven White youths had been gunned down by police and security guards in a matter of months? Can you imagine the extensive political interest, the media stories that would saturate the airwaves? Can you imagine Fox News or any number of newspapers reporting about a school suspension for one of the victims or doctoring pictures in an attempt to make these victims less sympathetic? Can you imagine a person holding up a sign calling these victims “thugs” and “hoodlums.”Just think about the media frenzy, the concern from politicians, and the national horror every time a school shooting happens in Suburbia or every time a White woman goes missing...can you imagine if women routinely went missing from your community and the news and police department simply couldn't be bothered?
No, you can't. And you don't have to.
Yet, from Florida to Los Angeles, from Atlanta to Wisconsin, from Chicago to Ohio, Black families are burying the innocent and the future. Doesn’t that make you sad; doesn’t that make your angry? Our silence is telling. We can barely say their names much less acknowledge the epidemic in our midst: Stephon Watts. Trayvon Martin. Ramarley Graham. Wendell Allen. Dante Price. Bo Morrison. Rekia Boyd. Kendrec McDade.
All have lost their lives; and we don’t even say their names. All have died under similarly disturbing circumstances. All should have prompted national outrage and action; or at the least for us to say their names.
I don’t care if you cried during The Help​ and if the 'feel good' movie of the year featuring chicken-frying maids and affluent White women made you feel all post-racial tingly on the inside. ​Did you cry at the report of yet another lost Black life? If so, what have those tears done – have they led you to join a rally, to demand justice? I don’t care if you voted for President Obama; have you demanded dramatic changes to our criminal (in)justice system? It is time for us to check ourselves, to listen and demand a better America starting with ourselves. It is time to stop denying racism and defending White privilege, distracting and deflecting with “what ifs” and excuses. It is time to demand justice for the Trayvons and the Rekias, not because it could have been one of our sons and daughters--it couldn't--but because it is simply the right thing to do.
David J. Leonard is Associate Professor in the Department of Critical Culture, Gender and Race Studies at Washington State University, Pullman. He is author of After Artest: Race and the War on Hoop (SUNY Press, spring 2012).
Sincerely
A member of White America

ComeToTX

Mentioned in th post above. This cop is still working.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/0 ... 08640.html

PJ_Soul

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/06/a ... U.facebook

What the fuuuuuuck .... I think someone has to figure out a way to outlaw these kinds of groups (i include the Black Panthers in there btw) without it meaning other rights to freedom are at risk... surely there is some smart judge or something out there who can manage something that saves us from loopholes... Or even without, isn't this inciting hate, and isn't that illegal? How does the legal system determine what is insisting hate and what is not?? Because I don't think the definition is very good if this kind of shit doesn't count.

JonnyPistachio

looks like the person who was responsible for the editing (nbc) of the police call from zimmerman was fired. about time..

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime ... 89104.html

usamamasan1

Truth be told

Godfather.

think we will ever find out who did this ?

Godfather.

RW81233

Godfather. wrote:

think we will ever find out who did this ?

Godfather.

look up NBC producers now, then figure out which one disappears in a few months

Godfather.

RW81233 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

think we will ever find out who did this ?

Godfather.

look up NBC producers now, then figure out which one disappears in a few months

simple yet brilliant idea, thanks man !

Godfather.

Monster Rain

Godfather. wrote:

think we will ever find out who did this ?

Godfather.

Since they didn't release a name when they announced the firing, I'm guessing that this was really more of a "temporary leave" than an actual firing if they actually fired anyone at all. It was a PR move and they know that most people won't care enough to go back and look at the credits from episodes of "Today" and compare the editors with the credits from future episode and see if that person ever was fired or re-hired after a short absence.

I see it as a similar situation that the WWE had when Linda McMahon was running for office in CT. One of their wrestlers, Daniel Bryan, "choked" John Cena during a brawl. The company had banned that sort of thing because of the whole Chris Benoit incident and were afraid that Linda's opponent would use that sort of footage against her in the race. So, they fired Daniel Bryan the next day. He had a 90-day no-compete clause in his contract that prevented him from signing with a rival company, but they still allowed him to work small independent shows. Shortly after that 90-day no-compete clause expired, he was re-hired and back on TV. The same thing will happen here. The guy might wind up working on a different show but he'll have his job back as soon as NBC feels like this has died down. That's why only an editor was fired, not the producer in charge of the show. Does anyone really think that the producer was unaware of how the 911 call transpired by the time they aired that edited version? There's no way a producer for a show that covers big news stories was that uninformed about a story that was making national headlines and has been this controversial.

shadowcast

I think Bill Cosby makes a good point here.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/ ... rtin-case/

shadowcast

Here we go...

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2 ... -of-Action

usamamasan1

suit up and boot up.



I agree with Bill Cosby too. Parents should do better by their children.