Trayvon Martin

gimmesometruth27

fuck George zimmerman.

Jason P

This First Time Area Man Hearing About Daughter Dating George Zimmerman

News in Brief • News • ISSUE 49•47 • Nov 19, 2013

APOPKA, FL—After his daughter was reportedly threatened, held at gunpoint, and shoved out of her home by her live-in boyfriend yesterday, the father of area woman Samantha Scheibe told reporters this is the first time he’s hearing anything about his daughter dating George Zimmerman. “Wait, you mean that George Zimmerman? Like, the guy who shot the kid?” the stunned father said while rapidly scanning news articles for any clues as to how his 27-year-old daughter happened to meet, much less become romantically involved with, the man nationally recognized for pursuing and killing an unarmed teenager in February of 2012. “I mean, I heard her mention she was seeing a guy named George, but how in the world was I supposed to know she was talking about George fucking Zimmerman? Christ, how long was this going on? Were they serious?” The disgruntled father added that his daughter better not be pregnant.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/this-first-time-area-man-hearing-about-daughter-da,34612/

unsung

So remember him being arrested for pointing a gun at his ex-gf?

Yeah, didn't happen she says. In fact she says she wants to be with him.

Dude needs to stay away from crazy women.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/09/zimme ... ccusation/

vant0037

unsung wrote:

So remember him being arrested for pointing a gun at his ex-gf?

Yeah, didn't happen she says. In fact she says she wants to be with him.

Dude needs to stay away from crazy women.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/09/zimme ... ccusation/

Welcome to the world of criminal law. Witnesses say lots of things; tough to say this proves anything one way or another.


By the way, one of the commenters to the story on that site defends Bernard Goetz. Looks like a great "news" source...

unsung

Yawn. It's the Daily Caller and it's very reputable. I'm sure though, if you so desire, your Internet skills can direct you to a news source that you find acceptable.

vant0037

unsung wrote:

Yawn. It's the Daily Caller and it's very reputable. I'm sure though, if you so desire, your Internet skills can direct you to a news source that you find acceptable.

That's what I said. It looks really reputable. Between the headlines about how much Obama's trip to Mandela's funeral will cost or how Liberals want to stop men from checking out women, it looks really unbiased. I think I'll get all my news there.

unsung

Well, again, I'm sure you can find a news source that carries this fact along with how Obamacare actually saves people money, how all people should be on food stamps, and unemployment, how the federal reserve saves us, how the government can save us all.

Then would you believe it?

vant0037

unsung wrote:

Well, again, I'm sure you can find a news source that carries this fact along with how Obamacare actually saves people money, how all people should be on food stamps, and unemployment, how the federal reserve saves us, how the government can save us all.

Then would you believe it?

You can make all the presumptions you want about news sources I would find credible. But its your source. Does it look unbiased to you?

I'll go ahead and lay my cards on the table.

As far as I can gather, George Zimmerman is still newsworthy because people on both sides of the trial have an ax to grind. Gun control advocates look at his continued criminal issues as proof that he was actually guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin. Gun advocates look at stories like the ones you cited as proof that he hasn't had continuing issues, and therefore, the media is just stalking him (something to that effect).

If you read through this thread, I was attacked by people on both sides because my stance has always been: whatever my personal feelings on the trial are, the man was charged, tried and acquitted by a jury of his peers. End of story (or at least it should be). That's our criminal justice system, and we might not like it, but in civil society, we have to live with it or change it.

To continue discussing this, especially when both sides are using stories unrelated to his actions on the night of Trayvon Martin's death, is not only unfair to the Martin family and George Zimmerman, but unhealthy public discourse.

So now, you've posted a story about how the latest victim has recanted her statement that he threatened her with a gun. Sources aside, so what? Outside of his trial (which is long over now), why do I care that some witness in some small time criminal (or not criminal) incident in Florida has changed her statement?

I'm suggesting that people continue to discuss this guy - especially with stories like this - because they've still got an ax to grind. They think each new story will prove them right in the broader debate about whether he's innocent or guilty, whether guns should be restricted or not etc.

You posted a story. I read it. It was from a website that had entire departments dedicated to trashing Obama, discredited global warming, trashing liberals, painting GOP/Tea Party members in favorable lights.

So I questioned the source, because it appears to me the site posted the story only to further its own agenda about guns, gun control etc (much in the way gun control supporters have posted stories about his troubles to further their agendas).

...which brings me to my question: if you're not posting this story with that link because you have an ax to grind with the broader issue, why are you posting it?

vant0037

unsung wrote:

Yawn. It's the Daily Caller and it's very reputable. I'm sure though, if you so desire, your Internet skills can direct you to a news source that you find acceptable.

Tucker Carlson is reputable? To whom?

That's like me quoting Michael Moore as unbiased...

unsung

Here.

Stop wasting my time. I did the impossible work for you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/0 ... 15025.html

It's remarkably funny that people will try to dispute a credible story based on other articles on a site, even though the LAZIEST internet searching can find it on your preferred site.

vant0037

unsung wrote:

Here.

Stop wasting my time. I did the impossible work for you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/0 ... 15025.html

It's remarkably funny that people will try to dispute a credible story based on other articles on a site, even though the LAZIEST internet searching can find it on your preferred site.

Stop wasting your time? You posted a link. I'm sure this is very laborious for you, which if that's the case, why post at all?

How about you answer the question. If you're not just dragging this guy's problems out to further your own views, why did you post it?

Without the political debate surrounding this guy, why would anyone care?

I don't care about your biased or unbiased sources. Why is the story you posted relevant to Trayvon Martin? I think we both know the answer...

Gern Blansten

This is actually a pattern with abused women. They "come to their senses" and take back the charges because he'll most certainly never do it again.

I'm guessing she'll either end up dead or he'll be back in the news within a few weeks.

Gern Blansten

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/vicrecant.htm

Cliffy6745

Well, I don't think she can really say I want to be with him but he pointed a gun at my face

gimmesometruth27

zimmerman is going to end up killing someone. again.

norm

George Zimmerman Wants His Normal Life Back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

davidtrios

deja vu

gimmesometruth27

yeah this is happening right by me.

fucking idiots.

they are having peaceful vigils and prayer services and people are showing up with guns.

thinking violence is going to get their point across and gain them sympathy.

here, most people, black and white alike, are offended by what is happening here.

peace is why martin luther king is remembered and malcolm x is largely forgotten.

mickeyrat

gimmesometruth27 said:

yeah this is happening right by me.

fucking idiots.

they are having peaceful vigils and prayer services and people are showing up with guns.

thinking violence is going to get their point across and gain them sympathy.

here, most people, black and white alike, are offended by what is happening here.

peace is why martin luther king is remembered and malcolm x is largely forgotten.

keep a group of people down long enough and have them fed with images of things and goot mine attitudes, then I think that naturally breeds a coveting of same things so they say "got mines"
Those leaders of the CR movements work wasnt done. They still need to be even more so outspoken to rally to the just cause and not the selfish "got mines"


Hope it calms soon.

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

yeah this is happening right by me.

fucking idiots.

they are having peaceful vigils and prayer services and people are showing up with guns.

thinking violence is going to get their point across and gain them sympathy.

here, most people, black and white alike, are offended by what is happening here.

peace is why martin luther king is remembered and malcolm x is largely forgotten.

keep a group of people down long enough and have them fed with images of things and goot mine attitudes, then I think that naturally breeds a coveting of same things so they say "got mines"
Those leaders of the CR movements work wasnt done. They still need to be even more so outspoken to rally to the just cause and not the selfish "got mines"


Hope it calms soon.

they have called the fbi in to do an investigation. st louis county police are doing one too. they are independent of the ferguson police dept. they are doing toxicology tests on the body, and those take 4-6 weeks. by that time the rioting should have been calm for weeks. and then when the results make the news, it might start up again. the bottom line is people do not trust the cops to do an investigation of one of their own. i think this is where the strife is coming from, because everybody and their mom thinks that this cop is going to walk and that the shooting will have been justified in some way.

mickeyrat

gimmesometruth27 said:

mickeyrat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

yeah this is happening right by me.

fucking idiots.

they are having peaceful vigils and prayer services and people are showing up with guns.

thinking violence is going to get their point across and gain them sympathy.

here, most people, black and white alike, are offended by what is happening here.

peace is why martin luther king is remembered and malcolm x is largely forgotten.

keep a group of people down long enough and have them fed with images of things and goot mine attitudes, then I think that naturally breeds a coveting of same things so they say "got mines"
Those leaders of the CR movements work wasnt done. They still need to be even more so outspoken to rally to the just cause and not the selfish "got mines"


Hope it calms soon.

they have called the fbi in to do an investigation. st louis county police are doing one too. they are independent of the ferguson police dept. they are doing toxicology tests on the body, and those take 4-6 weeks. by that time the rioting should have been calm for weeks. and then when the results make the news, it might start up again. the bottom line is people do not trust the cops to do an investigation of one of their own. i think this is where the strife is coming from, because everybody and their mom thinks that this cop is going to walk and that the shooting will have been justified in some way.

absolutely understand the distrust. Many havent acted in a trustworthy manner. But what you have said in regards to the investigation, they in power need to understand that to take an officer to task IS protecting serving the public where that officer failed.

We have a new chief. First female. Just dealt with a uniformed officer who was taking pills. Transcript of the hearing she chaired with this guy was published. She wasnt taking any shit. this gives me hope for our PD. http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2014/07/21/columbus-ohio-columbus-police-officer-fights-to-keep-badge-after-pain-pill-investigation.html