Trayvon Martin

hedonist

Hi, gimme.

From what I've read, the attorneys can't get in touch with him anymore and need to in order to go forward with his case; I'm guessing he's laying low given the threats on his life? Or is ready to blow. Who knows.

Look, I don't know what happened there. Do you, enough to label him a murderer already?

(and how is Fox defending him? I haven't seen that, just a blurb that he spoke with Hannity)

I was quick to rush to judgment on this and have since learned that I don't know a whole lot about the truth of it.

gimmesometruth27

hedonist wrote:

Hi, gimme.

From what I've read, the attorneys can't get in touch with him anymore and need to in order to go forward with his case; I'm guessing he's laying low given the threats on his life? Or is ready to blow. Who knows.

Look, I don't know what happened there. Do you, enough to label him a murderer already?

(and how is Fox defending him? I haven't seen that, just a blurb that he spoke with Hannity)

I was quick to rush to judgment on this and have since learned that I don't know a whole lot about the truth of it.

there is going to be an announcement from the prosecutor within 72 hours.

how much evidence do people need to make an arrest and at least charge him with manslaughter?

he has admitted to killing an unarmed teenager. he must go through the legal process, and up until this point the legal process has failed at every turn.

i think it is funny that the zimmerman family is saying that holder will not investigate the new black panthers because he is black...

usamamasan1

What's funny is you said sigh.

I hope Zimmerman is ok and isn't being subjected to hate crimes now.

Zimmerman followed the law.

You guys see the assault on the man in Baltimore? Hate crime or just a bunch of criminals being criminals?

PJ_Soul

usamamasan1 wrote:

What's funny is you said sigh.

I hope Zimmerman is ok and isn't being subjected to hate crimes now.

Zimmerman followed the law.

You guys see the assault on the man in Baltimore? Hate crime or just a bunch of criminals being criminals?

If I killed a kid who didn't warrant my killing him, I'd say he was the aggressor too... Zimmerman is not behaving in a way that makes me trust what he's saying. You don't know what happened any more than anyone else. Kind of not fair if you to be saying an unarmed teenager deserved yo die, especially when you don't know he did.

usamamasan1

He assaulted a man from what I have gathered. That is what the cops thought too, from what I gathered.

PJ_Soul

usamamasan1 wrote:

He assaulted a man from what I have gathered. That is what the cops thought too, from what I gathered.

Even if he did (and did unprovoked), and it's only Zimmerman's word (kind of sounds like Zimmerman was hassling him, and he ignored directions from the police, and someone died because of it), Zimmerman is acting in a very callous way that is making the situation worse, and is now talking to Fox instead of his lawyers... wonder how much cash he's gonna rake in for shooting an unarmed teenager?

Godfather.

usamamasan1 wrote:

"Whoever decided to turn it from a war of words into a war of fists does so at their own peril,"

truth be told

+1 :thumbup:

Godfather.

Godfather.

here on the train we tend to pass judgement based on information we get from the media...the same media we claim to have no trust in such as NBC and others,were any of us there to see what did happen ? is there any solid evidense to prove racism ?..a young man is dead and another is in hiding for fear of his life and just because the young man was killed at an early age does not mean that zimmerman is guilty of murder and that Trayvon did not attack him, we don't know one way or the other.....do we.

Godfather.

AllNiteThing

usamamasan1 wrote:

"Whoever decided to turn it from a war of words into a war of fists does so at their own peril,"

truth be told

So you're saying that someone who is engaged in a fistfight (obviously provoked) should be expected to be shot and killed? Wow. :roll:

AllNiteThing

Godfather. wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

"Whoever decided to turn it from a war of words into a war of fists does so at their own peril,"

truth be told

+1 :thumbup:

Godfather.

Sicko. :evil:

Godfather.

AllNiteThing wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

"Whoever decided to turn it from a war of words into a war of fists does so at their own peril,"

truth be told

+1 :thumbup:

Godfather.

Sicko. :evil:

you haven't got any idea do you, you never know who your dealing with and these days kid's with guns or knives are not uncommon in some areas so really it's best to be careful.
and I think your post is just a little too judgemental.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

usamamasan1 wrote:

What's funny is you said sigh.

I hope Zimmerman is ok and isn't being subjected to hate crimes now.

Zimmerman followed the law.

You guys see the assault on the man in Baltimore? Hate crime or just a bunch of criminals being criminals?

I'm doing my best to stay neutral. But, even if Zimmerman followed the law, and is innocent in terms of the stand your ground law, are you not concerned that this law might be flawed? its based on a persons opinion. Zimmerman can say, "sure I felt very threatened!" And he's off the hook. its a pathetic law.

Even if Zimmerman has substantial injuries, (which evidently he doesnt) I still personally think what he did was wrong. I've been in fights where i've been punched in the head repeatedly. My own brother has slammed my head into a wall until I almost passed out. Could I justify killing someone over that? no fucking way.

And I dont think either the Treyvon case, or that case in Baltimore are hate crimes. They're both just disgusting acts of indecency.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

you haven't got any idea do you, you never know who your dealing with and these days kid's with guns or knives are not uncommon in some areas so really it's best to be careful.
and I think your post is just a little too judgemental.

Godfather.

That's exactly why Zimmerman should've stayed in his car. His gun gave him power. Without it, i'm sure he would've stayed in the safety of his automobile, and Treyvon wouldnt have been killed dead.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

you haven't got any idea do you, you never know who your dealing with and these days kid's with guns or knives are not uncommon in some areas so really it's best to be careful.
and I think your post is just a little too judgemental.

Godfather.

That's exactly why Zimmerman should've stayed in his car. His gun gave him power. Without it, i'm sure he would've stayed in the safety of his automobile, and Treyvon wouldnt have been killed dead.

and maybe Trayvon should not cut thru a neighborhood where he did not live if you look at it as you posted it.


Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

you haven't got any idea do you, you never know who your dealing with and these days kid's with guns or knives are not uncommon in some areas so really it's best to be careful.
and I think your post is just a little too judgemental.

Godfather.

That's exactly why Zimmerman should've stayed in his car. His gun gave him power. Without it, i'm sure he would've stayed in the safety of his automobile, and Treyvon wouldnt have been killed dead.

and maybe Trayvon should not cut thru a neighborhood where he did not live if you look at it as you posted it.


Godfather.

what? :? that makes no sense at all. He was a guest at a house that was about 70 yards away from where he was killed. In addition, he was near a walkway between two buildings --well away from the road where Zimmermans car was.

Like i've said, its too bad Treyvon wasnt a few more paces up at the house where he was staying. This would have turned out quite differently.

gimmesometruth27

it is quite possible that zimmerman without the gun looks and acts like this:



and the gun turned him into this:

g under p

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

it is quite possible that zimmerman without the gun looks and acts like this:



and the gun turned him into this:

That appears to be about right.

Peace

puremagic

Godfather. wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

"Whoever decided to turn it from a war of words into a war of fists does so at their own peril,"

truth be told

+1 :thumbup:

Godfather.

I’d go with that statement if I got into an argument outside a game, concert or bar. HOWEVER, that statement makes no goddamn sense if you are being followed by an unknown person in a vehicle, then on foot by the same unknown person.

AllNiteThing

Godfather. wrote:

AllNiteThing wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

+1 :thumbup:

Godfather.

Sicko.

you haven't got any idea do you, you never know who your dealing with and these days kid's with guns or knives are not uncommon in some areas so really it's best to be careful.
and I think your post is just a little too judgemental.

Godfather.

*you're
*kids
*judgmental

Sorry, that's just me being judgmental. We all know you're the smart one.

mikepegg44

puremagic wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

+1 :thumbup:

Godfather.

I’d go with that statement if I got into an argument outside a game, concert or bar. HOWEVER, that statement makes no goddamn sense if you are being followed by an unknown person in a vehicle, then on foot by the same unknown person.

my muay thai instructor told me something I will always remember...When asked what the best self defense technique was he thought for a second and said the 400 meter dash. Trayvon could have ran away instead of being involved in a confrontation, if Zimmerman shot him in the back while Trayvon was running away this conversation would be infinitely different.
If, instead of shooting the kid, Zimmerman ran when he felt threatened we wouldn't even be having a discussion at all.

Bad decisions everywhere, and unfortunately we don't know a lot of things and people continue to assume motivations and actions of the people involved.

Hopefully the truth comes out someday