Trayvon Martin

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    pandora wrote:
    I believe Zimmerman thought he was doing what was required of him and then
    a confrontation occurred and in that scary moment he protected himself.

    I believe Zimmerman was an out-of-control vigilante who has a clearly demonstrated unstable past (assault on a police officer while resisting arrest?) ... a history of making mountains-out-of-molehills with regard to phoning the cops for nothing ... a questionable attitude toward race at best ... and who was heard on the phone with the cops huffing-and-puffing in predatory pursuit of a small child whom he then likely lunged upon -- a kid whom you can then hear in a neighbor's phone call screaming bloody-murder for his life after trying to fight off an attacker over twice his stature -- and then shot him dead, for no reason other than he had nothing better to do, was slightly deranged to start with, and should have been removed from neighborhood watch after one of the first 45 times he called the cops for no good reason.
    Totally. I think the man is a wannabe Dirty Harry who feels like the big man in town with a gun in his hand. Simple as that. That idiotic website certainly didn't help my opinion of him.
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    That idiotic website certainly didn't help my opinion of him.

    Probably the single most questionable use of that Edmond Burke quote I can think of.

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

    What in GOD's name does that have to do with his situation?
    Even if he does truly believe himself innocent of criminal charges,
    surely he can't be so deluded as to think he was doing (or did) a "good" thing?
    He thinks he is a "good man"?
    He thinks that he was helping to triumph over evil?

    Yeesh.
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  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,690
    http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/m ... r-3659891/

    What Parker says happened next could make the fallout from the brutal beating even worse. As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said "Now thats justice for Trayvon." Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police say was shot and killed February 26 by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Samford, Florida.

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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Posts: 10,219
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That idiotic website certainly didn't help my opinion of him.

    Probably the single most questionable use of that Edmond Burke quote I can think of.

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

    What in GOD's name does that have to do with his situation?
    Even if he does truly believe himself innocent of criminal charges,
    surely he can't be so deluded as to think he was doing (or did) a "good" thing?
    He thinks he is a "good man"?
    He thinks that he was helping to triumph over evil?

    Yeesh.

    That website is ludicrous. Completely tactless.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Where are the marches Indifference? Where is the outrage?

    Did you see this Baltimore hate crime? Those thugs.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sec ... ted-467891
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Posts: 10,219
    Where are the marches Indifference? Where is the outrage?

    Did you see this Baltimore hate crime? Those thugs.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sec ... ted-467891

    wrong thread. Start a new one for that story.
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  • Monster RainMonster Rain Posts: 1,415
    http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

    What Parker says happened next could make the fallout from the brutal beating even worse. As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said "Now thats justice for Trayvon." Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police say was shot and killed February 26 by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Samford, Florida.

    It's sad that anyone would think a mob attack on someone unrelated to the incident in Florida in any way represents justice.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    It's sad that anyone would think a mob attack on someone unrelated to the incident in Florida in any way represents justice.

    and this is why america needs to stop burying its racial divides ...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    polaris_x wrote:
    It's sad that anyone would think a mob attack on someone unrelated to the incident in Florida in any way represents justice.

    and this is why america needs to stop burying its racial divides ...
    I think the whole point of the civil rights movement is to bury the racial divides.

    Or we can create a huge story based on false and manipulative reporting and stoke the flames. How is that working out?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    I think the whole point of the civil rights movement is to bury the racial divides.

    Or we can create a huge story based on false and manipulative reporting and stoke the flames. How is that working out?

    the evidence is ample man ... why you choose to ignore it is mind boggling ... forget this story ever broke, heck forget this story ever happened ... you think america is living in racial harmony now?
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I think the whole point of the civil rights movement is to bury the racial divides.

    Or we can create a huge story based on false and manipulative reporting and stoke the flames. How is that working out?

    the evidence is ample man ... why you choose to ignore it is mind boggling ... forget this story ever broke, heck forget this story ever happened ... you think america is living in racial harmony now?
    America is never living in harmony, regardless of race. This story has done nothing to help address harmony you seek, it only incites.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    America is never living in harmony, regardless of race. This story has done nothing to help address harmony you seek, it only incites.

    i disagree ... it exposes ... it's denial that allows problems to persist and grow ...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    America is never living in harmony, regardless of race. This story has done nothing to help address harmony you seek, it only incites.

    i disagree ... it exposes ... it's denial that allows problems to persist and grow ...
    I think there is a huge denial in overall perception as well. Is race the only factor in this issue?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    I think there is a huge denial in overall perception as well. Is race the only factor in this issue?

    rarely does something work in isolation ... but race is definitely a factor ...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I think the whole point of the civil rights movement is to bury the racial divides.

    Or we can create a huge story based on false and manipulative reporting and stoke the flames. How is that working out?

    the evidence is ample man ... why you choose to ignore it is mind boggling ... forget this story ever broke, heck forget this story ever happened ... you think america is living in racial harmony now?
    America is never living in harmony, regardless of race. This story has done nothing to help address harmony you seek, it only incites.
    It points out that the racial divides are still massive... That is important. Not that I'm glad this situation is happening, obviously. But look... civil rights and racism are really the HARDEST issues for any nation to overcome. It does not come easy, and it doesn't come peacefully, unfortunately. I wish it did, but it never has in the history of human kind, so we can't expect it to be like that now either, realistically. It's a real shame, though, that America just doesn't seem to be learning with each new experience. The US seems to have come to a complete stand still in this regard as far as the general population goes. Kind of strange... I don't understand why this is, but I sure hope someone fixes it... Most likely, it's really rooted in economic factors... Which leaves little hope that things will actually improve anytime soon (on the contrary).
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    oh yeah racism doesn't exist in 'merica http://chirpstory.com/li/6781
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    RW81233 wrote:
    oh yeah racism doesn't exist in 'merica http://chirpstory.com/li/6781

    who said it didn't ?

    Godfather.
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,206
    Interesting article on Zimmerman in Yahoo this morning. I think it paints a picture of Zimmermans state of mind on why he was following Trayvon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 35114.html
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    shadowcast wrote:
    Interesting article on Zimmerman in Yahoo this morning. I think it paints a picture of Zimmermans state of mind on why he was following Trayvon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 35114.html

    great artical,thanks.

    Godfather.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    shadowcast wrote:
    Interesting article on Zimmerman in Yahoo this morning. I think it paints a picture of Zimmermans state of mind on why he was following Trayvon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 35114.html

    Okay... Is this supposed to make a difference to anything?
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    at this point people have picked their sides and will take whatever they want out of the articles posted...it's probably best just to sit back and watch the shitshow that will be Zimmerman's trial.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Oops - disregard
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,206
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    Interesting article on Zimmerman in Yahoo this morning. I think it paints a picture of Zimmermans state of mind on why he was following Trayvon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 35114.html

    Okay... Is this supposed to make a difference to anything?

    I don't know if you got the memo that we sometimes post article links for people to read to be informed. Not trying "to make a difference" :roll:. Was just supplying information for people to read so they can form their own opinion. Maybe your 808th post will be better that your 807th post. Or maybe you should just stick to pEaRl jAm posts only. AKA the Porch.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    shadowcast wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    Interesting article on Zimmerman in Yahoo this morning. I think it paints a picture of Zimmermans state of mind on why he was following Trayvon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 35114.html

    Okay... Is this supposed to make a difference to anything?

    I don't know if you got the memo that we sometimes post article links for people to read to be informed. Not trying "to make a difference" :roll:. Was just supplying information for people to read so they can form their own opinion. Maybe your 808th post will be better that your 807th post. Or maybe you should just stick to pEaRl jAm posts only. AKA the Porch.
    :? :? Dude. Was wondering if you or anyone thought the article said anything to change anyone's opinion. What's with the 'tude?
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    RW81233 wrote:
    at this point people have picked their sides and will take whatever they want out of the articles posted...it's probably best just to sit back and watch the shitshow that will be Zimmerman's trial.

    Agreed
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    thing's can change in an instant in the court room espically when there 12 people trying to deside someones future..one wrong word and the whole case can change.


    Godfather.
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,206
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    [Interesting article on Zimmerman in Yahoo this morning. I think it paints a picture of Zimmermans state of mind on why he was following Trayvon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 35114.html

    Okay... Is this supposed to make a difference to anything?

    I don't know if you got the memo that we sometimes post article links for people to read to be informed. Not trying "to make a difference" :roll:. Was just supplying information for people to read so they can form their own opinion. Maybe your 808th post will be better that your 807th post. Or maybe you should just stick to pEaRl jAm posts only. AKA the Porch.[/quote]
    :? :? Dude. Was wondering if you or anyone thought the article said anything to change anyone's opinion. What's with the 'tude?[/quote]



    Sorry it's so hard to judge peoples tone. I'm sorry I do apologize.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    shadowcast wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    [Interesting article on Zimmerman in Yahoo this morning. I think it paints a picture of Zimmermans state of mind on why he was following Trayvon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 35114.html

    Okay... Is this supposed to make a difference to anything?

    I don't know if you got the memo that we sometimes post article links for people to read to be informed. Not trying "to make a difference" :roll:. Was just supplying information for people to read so they can form their own opinion. Maybe your 808th post will be better that your 807th post. Or maybe you should just stick to pEaRl jAm posts only. AKA the Porch.
    :? :? Dude. Was wondering if you or anyone thought the article said anything to change anyone's opinion. What's with the 'tude?[/quote]

    Sorry it's so hard to judge peoples tone. I'm sorry I do apologize.[/quote]

    :)
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,798
    Zimmerman's MySpace from 2005:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/01/2 ... vo-in.html

    Looks like he's been a wannabe badass for a long time.
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