Penn State Scandal

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,791
    norm wrote:

    No doubt these students are totally clueless , the fact of the matter is that no one became a hero for the kids that were assulted they didn't have a hero to look too !!!
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    I really want someone to try and interview McQueary. I mean, I really want someone to ask him what kind of man sees a little boy getting assaulted in the shower and runs away?
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    I really want someone to try and interview McQueary. I mean, I really want someone to ask him what kind of man sees a little boy getting assaulted in the shower and runs away?

    @ are you doing....stop interrupt help the kid since he was able to determine it was a boy....be some kind of hero. THEN call Dad or if he chose to do nothing but man help the child out of that situation immediately.

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
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    This scandal has forced me to step back and consider instances in the past and see if I've failed this mantra. I've not witnessed anything close to a sexual assault, but have I stood by silent in the past when a bully or co-worker has emotional attacked someone I know? Have I ever witnessed a friend or neighbor be to aggressive with their kids (physically or emotionally) and not confront them? Have I seen a good friend display signs of aggressiveness or violence with someone they are dating and rationalize it, even though I should know that the aggressiveness may multiple ten-fold when they are in private?

    Hard to say because the human mind usually suppresses these memories. Nothing in my past memory particularly stands out, but perhaps I've chosen to forget it subconsciously.

    There are some important lessons to be learned by all of us.

    I'm hopeful that we will all be better at confronting evil in the future. Otherwise, we shouldn't be casting stones in a glass house.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    I don't understand all this sympathy for Joe Pa's legacy. Everyone saying he did what he was supposed to do and those people dropped the ball. I can't believe that after working with this guy for 30+ years and then hearing about this incident that he could've done more.

    Joe is the most powerful person at that university and if he wanted to do something about this diddler it would've been done.

    It's a shame his legacy will end this way but so be it.

    I heard at one point the students were chanting, "tastes great, less filling." All they see is there school being dragged through the mud.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    AP report says JOE Paterno will retire at the end of the season. Should both Joe and McQueary be on the sidelines this weekend coaching?

    Peace
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  • Story just came across Paterno to retire at end of season. The only thing that matters at Penn State is football.
  • g under p wrote:
    AP report says JOE Paterno will retire at the end of the season. Should both Joe and McQueary be on the sidelines this weekend coaching?

    Peace

    McQueary should seek out the Wizard to get some courage....not unlike the Lion.
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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    im reading the indictment now...wow fucked up shit
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    g under p wrote:
    AP report says JOE Paterno will retire at the end of the season. Should both Joe and McQueary be on the sidelines this weekend coaching?

    Peace

    PSU also needs to gut the whole coaching staff and anyone involved with the football team. I guess whoever comes in will do that.

    If I was McQueary, I would be on a leave of absence too.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    I could see Paterno on the sidelines this weekend but not McQuery.

    This president needs to speak!
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  • There are reports out today that say that although the indictment lists 8 accusers the list has grown "closer to 20" now since the state set up a phone number for other possible victims to call.

    http://tracking.si.com/2011/11/08/repor ... ref=sircrc
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Every single person who stood by and didn't intervene is culpable in this situation. From the janitor and McQueary who actually witnessed assaults, to Paterno and his superiors who were told about them. We're all mandated reporters. We're all required to report suspicions of child abuse to the authorities...so anyone who suspected or knew for sure that something was happening and didn't report it is at fault. Paterno is getting the most attention because he is the most public figure, but everyone else is equally or more at blame here. But I'm sick of fucking hearing about him already. I've heard more about him in the last 24 hours than Sandusky. Keep the focus on the man that actually raped countless numbers of children. It's a teachable moment for anyone who might be a potential bystander to realize they have a responsibility to report and intervene, but I think it's really important that Paterno not overshadow the focus that should be on Sandusky.

    Perfect very well said...I will add that everyone who knew about this and didnt say anything all these years allowing it to happen more is a SICK MUTHERFUCKER..for obvious reasons.
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  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
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    You can't make this stuff up. :shock:
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Paternos Statement

    I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

    I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

    That’s why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can. This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

    My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University.
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Paternos Statement

    I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

    I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

    That’s why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can. This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

    My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University.

    Reprehensible. Firing him is not as important as what? Firing him takes 2 seconds. He should not be allowed to ruin Seniors Day. I hope his whole team walks out on him. Wont happen, but it would be a great gesture by a group of young men.
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  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    That’s why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. [/i]

    Translation: Look I'm gonna leave at the end of the season so PLEASE DON'T FIRE ME NOW
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I haven't read all the details...buy why is Paterno under fire? Did he know what was going? or is this just guilt by association?
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I haven't read all the details...buy why is Paterno under fire? Did he know what was going? or is this just guilt by association?
    I'd suggest reading the details.
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