NHL 2011 PLAYOFFS

lukin2006

polaris_x wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeZDE9H3_vU

I am not really sure why he was even penalized, Seabrook was about to play the puck and did not appear his elbows were up. Sure Seabrook had his head turned, but it was not a blind side hit, it's a rough game, it's Seabrook's responsibility to keep his head. Sure Torres went back their to rattle him and a good hockey player would, he didn't try to injure him.

agree ... haha

as for the cheering for other teams ... it comes down to this:

i am a hockey fan ... my team sucks the balls ... i love playoff hockey ... it's the best game out there ... i need to cheer for some team ... mainly that's decided annually by what players i get in my playoff pools ... hahaha ... but in general, i cheer for other canadian teams because in the past - it was slightly harder for canadian teams to compete because of the disparity in the US/Can dollar and taxation ... now - not so much ... still, i think there are only a few cities that match the passion canadian fans have for hockey so, i'd rather have Vancouver win ... i don't hate teams ... there are some players i hate but in general - i don't hate teams ... that's just stupid ... i think lindros once said that "what happens on the ice stays on the ice ... and that there is a general comraderie amongst hockey players ... that there aren't many guys in the league he wouldn't share a beer with" ... some of us take sport like it's war with another country ...

I guess I like to cheer for the Canadian teams, for me I started cheering for the Canadian teams when I saw how easily the NHL let Winnipeg and Quebec leave and when the RIM guy tried to buy Phoenix and I think Nashville the fight that took place. I'm still a little confused as to why the NHL rejected him...he has pockets full of cash. But that matters little, it is looking like Winnipeg might get the Coyotes back :thumbup:.

I'd even cheer for the Maple Leafs if they'd just make the playoffs, hehehe.

haffajappa

Drowned Out wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

Honestly, there is a part of me that would love to see what Toronto would be like if you guys won a cup. It would be insane. Leafs fans are a dedicated bunch, even if it looks like the lower bowl at ACC is more of a boardroom than a hockey rink (not the fans’ fault!)….If Vancouver wins it, I will graciously (and grudgingly) congratulate my friends, and wish I was a part of the party…But it would be masochistic for me to cheer for them – the abuse I will take from my brother in law and BC friends will be unbearable. Conversely…I will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh if/when they choke again

The leafs would have to make the playoffs to have a chance at winning.
Maybe you guys can start with that before considering if the 'nucks will choke.

...you know what's extra, extra sad? I cheer for the team that's finished in last place two years in a row...but I'd way rather be an Oil fan than a Leaf fan, for obvious reasons

I missed the game, but have watched all the post game talk....yikes! Curious to see how your guys bounce back. A convincing win could be the turning point for the whole playoffs...another loss, and the self doubt will eat em up!

ugh, scariest 2 words to me... "turning point"
brings back another 3 words, "cloutier: blue line"
fml.




GO CANUCKS!
I'll be cheering from miles up in the air!
Most stressful flight, ever.
The person I'm going with actually works at Rogers Arena and is behind the scenes all the time. Stressful for both of us! EEK!

Drowned Out

lukin2006 wrote:

I guess I like to cheer for the Canadian teams, for me I started cheering for the Canadian teams when I saw how easily the NHL let Winnipeg and Quebec leave and when the RIM guy tried to buy Phoenix and I think Nashville the fight that took place. I'm still a little confused as to why the NHL rejected him...he has pockets full of cash. But that matters little, it is looking like Winnipeg might get the Coyotes back :thumbup:.

I'd even cheer for the Maple Leafs if they'd just make the playoffs, hehehe.

On cbc tonight they said something about a last-ditch effort to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix...sounds like it would fail...but how cruel would it be to Winnipeg if they stayed in AZ now? ugh...

as for Basillie vs the NHL....I am not as informed as some on this topic...I think it's about egos, and the maple leaf monopoly of S.Ontario...but I could be wrong.

Drowned Out

haffajappa wrote:

ugh, scariest 2 words to me... "turning point"
brings back another 3 words, "cloutier: blue line"
fml.

You're still up 3-1, I wouldn't get yourself thinking Cloutier quite yet And hey...enjoy the nerves, wouldn't be so bad having a team in the playoffs

I hadn't seen the score when I turned on the TV...first thing I heard was Millbury say that the Sisters looked 'alarmingly cautious'....then I saw the score. damn.
I'm guessing they're cuddling and consoling right now, tryin to figure out how to not get hurt in game 6


(sorry, it had to make an appearance in this thread )

Gary Carter

lukin2006 wrote:

I guess I like to cheer for the Canadian teams, for me I started cheering for the Canadian teams when I saw how easily the NHL let Winnipeg and Quebec leave and when the RIM guy tried to buy Phoenix and I think Nashville the fight that took place. I'm still a little confused as to why the NHL rejected him...he has pockets full of cash. But that matters little, it is looking like Winnipeg might get the Coyotes back :thumbup:.

I'd even cheer for the Maple Leafs if they'd just make the playoffs, hehehe.

lukin, those markets failed and eventually couldn't make status quo, you know that. NHL didn't let jim basille by the coyotes cause he woulda move them to hamilton and we all know how precious the leafs are to the nhl :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: .

MayDay10

lukin2006 wrote:

I guess I like to cheer for the Canadian teams, for me I started cheering for the Canadian teams when I saw how easily the NHL let Winnipeg and Quebec leave and when the RIM guy tried to buy Phoenix and I think Nashville the fight that took place. I'm still a little confused as to why the NHL rejected him...he has pockets full of cash. But that matters little, it is looking like Winnipeg might get the Coyotes back :thumbup:.

I'd even cheer for the Maple Leafs if they'd just make the playoffs, hehehe.

The problem with Balsielle is he didnt go through the proper channels and he wanted to move a team to where the NHL doesnt want/need a team without approval. A move to Hamilton would impede on the Leafs and Sabres' market so they say. Balsielle wanted to try to find loopholes and use public outcry against the NHL, which didnt do him any favors.
Not sure if I completely agree with the NHL... just because they are short on very wealthy owners that stabalize teams. They are constantly running around and putting out fires. However, they are right on that Balsielle is a grade a douchebag.

lukin2006

Drowned Out wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I guess I like to cheer for the Canadian teams, for me I started cheering for the Canadian teams when I saw how easily the NHL let Winnipeg and Quebec leave and when the RIM guy tried to buy Phoenix and I think Nashville the fight that took place. I'm still a little confused as to why the NHL rejected him...he has pockets full of cash. But that matters little, it is looking like Winnipeg might get the Coyotes back :thumbup:.

I'd even cheer for the Maple Leafs if they'd just make the playoffs, hehehe.

On cbc tonight they said something about a last-ditch effort to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix...sounds like it would fail...but how cruel would it be to Winnipeg if they stayed in AZ now? ugh...

as for Basillie vs the NHL....I am not as informed as some on this topic...I think it's about egos, and the maple leaf monopoly of S.Ontario...but I could be wrong.

I used to think it was just Toronto, but I now think it could have been trying to protect Buffalo, how many people from that area go to Buffalo games? Were they mot in bankruptcy not that long ago? With Toronto Basillie would have had to pay them some money, but in the end Toronto would probably still sell out.

I just don't understand the NHL, he has deep pockets, wanted to put a team in densely populated region.

lukin2006

metsfan wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I guess I like to cheer for the Canadian teams, for me I started cheering for the Canadian teams when I saw how easily the NHL let Winnipeg and Quebec leave and when the RIM guy tried to buy Phoenix and I think Nashville the fight that took place. I'm still a little confused as to why the NHL rejected him...he has pockets full of cash. But that matters little, it is looking like Winnipeg might get the Coyotes back :thumbup:.

I'd even cheer for the Maple Leafs if they'd just make the playoffs, hehehe.

lukin, those markets failed and eventually couldn't make status quo, you know that. NHL didn't let jim basille by the coyotes cause he woulda move them to hamilton and we all know how precious the leafs are to the nhl :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: .

It ain't the leafs they are protecting, it's Buffalo. The NHL now owns the coyotes they probably should just and shrink the league to 24 teams anyways. The problem with the American market most of those teams only draw well when the team is winning, just look at the Islanders, one of the most successful expansion franchises at one time.

polaris_x

it seemed that brutal too many men on the ice called turned that game around for chicago ...

can't believe san jose came back ...

MayDay10

lukin2006 wrote:

I used to think it was just Toronto, but I now think it could have been trying to protect Buffalo, how many people from that area go to Buffalo games? Were they mot in bankruptcy not that long ago? With Toronto Basillie would have had to pay them some money, but in the end Toronto would probably still sell out.

I just don't understand the NHL, he has deep pockets, wanted to put a team in densely populated region.

the reason Buffalo was in bankrupcy wasnt the fault of the fans. It was that the team was owned by corporate felons who's house of cards collapsed. There was a lull in attendance through that 2-3 year period because the team was gutted, owned by the NHL, and the situation was depressing to be around... but every other era in Sabres history has been attended very well, win or lose. They have missed the playoffs 2 of the past 3 years, and were looking like one of the worst teams in the league this season, and they still have 16K season ticket holders (with a large waiting list) and sell out most games. I would say Buffalo and Minnesota are loyal markets win or lose.

The past ownership group counted every possible incoming penny. They were probably very opposed to Hamilton's entry into the league. The new owner probably doesnt concern himself that much with it.

Johnny Abruzzo

You Canucks fans need to relax. If you lose Game 5 then it's time to worry.

Is this Coyotes back to Winnipeg thing legit? Seems like it's been going on since 1996. I think the NHL should be at least one-third Canadian teams. That's where all the friggin fans are.

lukin2006

MayDay10 wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I used to think it was just Toronto, but I now think it could have been trying to protect Buffalo, how many people from that area go to Buffalo games? Were they mot in bankruptcy not that long ago? With Toronto Basillie would have had to pay them some money, but in the end Toronto would probably still sell out.

I just don't understand the NHL, he has deep pockets, wanted to put a team in densely populated region.

the reason Buffalo was in bankrupcy wasnt the fault of the fans. It was that the team was owned by corporate felons who's house of cards collapsed. There was a lull in attendance through that 2-3 year period because the team was gutted, owned by the NHL, and the situation was depressing to be around... but every other era in Sabres history has been attended very well, win or lose. They have missed the playoffs 2 of the past 3 years, and were looking like one of the worst teams in the league this season, and they still have 16K season ticket holders (with a large waiting list) and sell out most games. I would say Buffalo and Minnesota are loyal markets win or lose.

The past ownership group counted every possible incoming penny. They were probably very opposed to Hamilton's entry into the league. The new owner probably doesnt concern himself that much with it.

I think Hamilton with Basille would have been a better fit for Phoenix. I know the economics of the game has changed, but if they go to Winnipeg and start having problems, then we'll probably never get another team, imo.

lukin2006

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

You Canucks fans need to relax. If you lose Game 5 then it's time to worry.

Is this Coyotes back to Winnipeg thing legit? Seems like it's been going on since 1996. I think the NHL should be at least one-third Canadian teams. That's where all the friggin fans are.

It seems to be legit...the other owners are probably tired of putting in there own money to prop up this franchise. Thats the part I don't understand about the NHL owners, they got advice from Bettman to buy this team out of bankruptcy court and he supposedly would get it sold to a Phoenix group and that hasn't happened yet. My question is, if they move to Winnipeg do they owners decide to let Bettman go? Any other business that the CEO cost them 40 million or so would be looking for work.

capthowdy1027

Ready for the Red Wings to sweep this series tonight!

Jason P

capthowdy1027 wrote:

Ready for the Red Wings to sweep this series tonight!

It's time to finish this experiment and send them packing back to Winnipeg tonight! (Manitobians, you can thank the Wings in a month or two when it's official)

MayDay10

with the young base they have, and with an owner with $23 billion dollars, the Winnipeg team is going to be a serious contender very quickly.

Heisenberg

Jason P wrote:

capthowdy1027 wrote:

Ready for the Red Wings to sweep this series tonight!

It's time to finish this experiment and send them packing back to Winnipeg tonight! (Manitobians, you can thank the Wings in a month or two when it's official)

Poor little Shane Doanut will be heading home after the first round yet again. At least it gives him plenty of time to pack.

restlesssoul

the NHL gave the winnipeg people the go ahead to start a campaign for selling seasons tickets like 5 days ago. its a go.

fife

MayDay10 wrote:

with the young base they have, and with an owner with $23 billion dollars, the Winnipeg team is going to be a serious contender very quickly.

The major issue with the team in Winnipeg is will players want to play there. I personally can't wait for a team to go back to the Peg. I wonder if they will change the name back to the jets or will be something else

restlesssoul

fife wrote:

MayDay10 wrote:

with the young base they have, and with an owner with $23 billion dollars, the Winnipeg team is going to be a serious contender very quickly.

The major issue with the team in Winnipeg is will players want to play there. I personally can't wait for a team to go back to the Peg. I wonder if they will change the name back to the jets or will be something else

They will not be called the Jets. confirmed same time they gave the go ahead for the sale of season tickets.