They won't be charged with anything other than some invasion privacy charges but they should be. Tougher penalities need to be established for these situations, it is getting out of hand.
quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :roll:
i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.
if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...
based on my 20 years of law and order viewing, there can be a case made for charging them with involuntary manslaughter but i only think that jack mccoy could get the conviction
quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :roll:
i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.
if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...
based on my 20 years of law and order viewing, there can be a case made for charging them with involuntary manslaughter but i only think that jack mccoy could get the conviction
depraved indifference= murder2
I too am a L&O fan!!!!
Completely unrelated, now that L&O is going HOLLYWOOD!!!! with L&O L.A. , now maybe we can get this Lohan business resolved once and for all!!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :roll:
i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.
if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...
based on my 20 years of law and order viewing, there can be a case made for charging them with involuntary manslaughter but i only think that jack mccoy could get the conviction
quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :roll:
i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.
if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...
yes i know the i difference i was in the middle of a poker hand
Oh, I must be getting my bullying/suicide stories mixed up. I saw on the news about a similar story but the boy shot himself. It's pretty bad that there are so many hate stories in the news that someone can get them mixed up...
sorry jeanwah i had posted that one in this thread.
the poor kid could have grown up in the most liberal type of family environment known to man and still feel ashamed of himself for being that way though. even though his family may have accepted him, his peers in high school and college may not have. there's no way of knowing. and it's not the issue here, really.
Yes he could have.
Are you stating that he WAS ?
It is sad, all around. Sadly too much of this happens... ugh.
quick metsfan: google the difference between murder and manslaughter :roll:
i can see a case to be argued for involuntary manslaughter but i think it's a stretch.
if a woman is raped....then commits suicide as a result of her mental and physical trauma, i don't think the rapist would then be tried for manslaughter.....or am i wrong? i can't recall any specific instances though...
yes i know the i difference i was in the middle of a poker hand
Tyler Clementi was described as quiet and shy, perhaps lacking the mental toughness to deal with the humiliation of having his sex life put on display.
This week, the Rutgers University freshman jumped off the George Washington Bridge after his roommate secretly taped him having sex and broadcast the footage over the Internet. Public humiliation is nothing new, but the prevalence of the Internet means that what happened to Clementi is going to keep happening, sociologist C. J. Pascoe says.
"New media simply changes the audience for this," Pascoe says. "Instead of having to be present for this public humiliation, we can spread it to larger and larger audiences."
But, he says, we shouldn't place all the blame for their actions on new technology. "I think the problem starts pre-technology, which is, what are the motivations we have in humiliating another person, and humiliating them sexually? That's the issue we need to deal with, and then follow up with concerns about new media."
Some critics point to prime-time TV, to shows like Survivor, American Idol and Kitchen Nightmares that showcase hapless contestants getting harsh putdowns. Veteran journalist Linda Ellerbee calls it "vulture culture."
"Who's going to be voted off the island? Who is our weakest link? Which of you, who can we be nastiest to in order to win? That's public humiliation for sport, and a lot of us love watching it," she says.
NYU performance studies professor Tavia Nyong'o says there's one TV show that understands the way public humiliation is an everyday part of life for young people: Glee.
"I think Glee is so important in this context because it's a show that's hysterically funny, and yet also about how to manage and maybe even transform experiences of public humiliation." He points to a particular scene in which one young man asks his bullies to let him take off his designer jacket before they stuff him in a dumpster.
Nyong'o says that shortly after news of Clementi's suicide broke, his students began asking about whether coming out of the closet was relevant — Clementi was gay — and what it takes to withstand public humiliation.
"We were talking about the misleading perception … that there's no cost to coming out anymore," he says. "There's a kind of equal opportunity for giving offense and for public hazing and for humiliating. We should all be able to deal with this now because we're all equally comfortable in our own skins. Tragically, what Rutgers reveals is that we're not all equally comfortable in our own skins."
This is just like Juggler's thread. It's us who decide how we will handle ourselves on the web. Doing things to other people to humiliate them( whether they know or not) is one of those situations. If you wouldn't do it in real life, don't do it here. AND if you do humiliate and hurt people in real life, GET HELP...and FYI, probably no one likes you in real life either because of it....I am talking bullying, hate crimes, child porn/abuse, the list goes on...kwim?
Quite honestly, I am flabbergasted that people can be so mean to others. I’ve been told all my life that I am too nice and I’m naïve, people will walk all over me, blah, blah, blah.
You know what, I choose to be this way, I would rather spread happiness and kindness than bitterness and hatred any day.
I wish more people felt like that. And I'm not even talking about something results in someone hurting or killing themselves. I'm talking about everyday interaction with other people. There's no need to be as nasty as our society has become.
Quite honestly, I am flabbergasted that people can be so mean to others. I’ve been told all my life that I am too nice and I’m naïve, people will walk all over me, blah, blah, blah.
You know what, I choose to be this way, I would rather spread happiness and kindness than bitterness and hatred any day.
I wish more people felt like that. And I'm not even talking about something results in someone hurting or killing themselves. I'm talking about everyday interaction with other people. There's no need to be as nasty as our society has become.
It really saddens me.
Kudos to you. I also think it's more worthwhile to be caring and think well of others. It's served me well enough--it's not often that someone tries to take advantage of me.
Oddly enough, of the people I know, they tend to be far more naive than I am. Working in social services, I have seen things that many people don't want to believe exist.
Like PureandEasy, I'm regularly amazed at how mean people can be to each other.
I want to know how this is still happening. With all the public outcry over the recent suicides of bullied victims, any parent that doesn’t sit their child down and tell them plain and simple that it is not acceptable behavior to bully someone else, should not be a parent.
These children are so young. What a devastating waste.
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i think we can all agree on this
based on my 20 years of law and order viewing,
I too am a L&O fan!!!!
Completely unrelated, now that L&O is going HOLLYWOOD!!!! with L&O L.A. , now maybe we can get this Lohan business resolved once and for all!!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
dum dum...
yes i know the i difference i was in the middle of a poker hand
agreed
btw- the LA L&O SUCKS
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Are you stating that he WAS ?
It is sad, all around. Sadly too much of this happens... ugh.
I know i made it something arcade fire.
So fail on me. :(
edit: oh piss. turned sigs on... HAHA well maybe Regine is in a construction site.
you were in the middle of a poker hand.
well that explains it.
Tyler Clementi was described as quiet and shy, perhaps lacking the mental toughness to deal with the humiliation of having his sex life put on display.
This week, the Rutgers University freshman jumped off the George Washington Bridge after his roommate secretly taped him having sex and broadcast the footage over the Internet. Public humiliation is nothing new, but the prevalence of the Internet means that what happened to Clementi is going to keep happening, sociologist C. J. Pascoe says.
"New media simply changes the audience for this," Pascoe says. "Instead of having to be present for this public humiliation, we can spread it to larger and larger audiences."
But, he says, we shouldn't place all the blame for their actions on new technology. "I think the problem starts pre-technology, which is, what are the motivations we have in humiliating another person, and humiliating them sexually? That's the issue we need to deal with, and then follow up with concerns about new media."
Some critics point to prime-time TV, to shows like Survivor, American Idol and Kitchen Nightmares that showcase hapless contestants getting harsh putdowns. Veteran journalist Linda Ellerbee calls it "vulture culture."
"Who's going to be voted off the island? Who is our weakest link? Which of you, who can we be nastiest to in order to win? That's public humiliation for sport, and a lot of us love watching it," she says.
NYU performance studies professor Tavia Nyong'o says there's one TV show that understands the way public humiliation is an everyday part of life for young people: Glee.
"I think Glee is so important in this context because it's a show that's hysterically funny, and yet also about how to manage and maybe even transform experiences of public humiliation." He points to a particular scene in which one young man asks his bullies to let him take off his designer jacket before they stuff him in a dumpster.
Nyong'o says that shortly after news of Clementi's suicide broke, his students began asking about whether coming out of the closet was relevant — Clementi was gay — and what it takes to withstand public humiliation.
"We were talking about the misleading perception … that there's no cost to coming out anymore," he says. "There's a kind of equal opportunity for giving offense and for public hazing and for humiliating. We should all be able to deal with this now because we're all equally comfortable in our own skins. Tragically, what Rutgers reveals is that we're not all equally comfortable in our own skins."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... um=twitter
Roommate charged with hate crime
:(
You know what, I choose to be this way, I would rather spread happiness and kindness than bitterness and hatred any day.
I wish more people felt like that. And I'm not even talking about something results in someone hurting or killing themselves. I'm talking about everyday interaction with other people. There's no need to be as nasty as our society has become.
It really saddens me.
Oddly enough, of the people I know, they tend to be far more naive than I am. Working in social services, I have seen things that many people don't want to believe exist.
Like PureandEasy, I'm regularly amazed at how mean people can be to each other.
http://regina.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/C ... hub=Regina
I have 2 daughters...hard not to worry.
I want to know how this is still happening. With all the public outcry over the recent suicides of bullied victims, any parent that doesn’t sit their child down and tell them plain and simple that it is not acceptable behavior to bully someone else, should not be a parent.
These children are so young. What a devastating waste.