college kid commits suicide after being secretly taped

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  • polaris_x wrote:
    sad ... i'm sure all their friends were laughing when they did this ... glad someone had the courage to report this to authorities ... :(

    i'm gonna postulate that this kid came from a very conservative religious household ...

    I agree with your first half. The second seemed somewhat unnecessary.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • eyedclaar wrote:
    Boo Boo wrote:

    I have been there as stated in my last post. yes Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. But I am sorry if you feel differently but it IS a selfish act. the individual is only thinking of themselves, how its going to make it all go away for them. NOT how its going to make their loved ones they are leaving behind feel.
    I am not or is 81 condemning anyone or this 18 year old.


    I've been there too and have a much different persepective. I also work with veterans, as some of you know. Some of you might also know that veteran suicide rates are at an all time high. You know what we tell those veterans who come to us for help? We say, "stop being so selfish, you bunch of assholes."

    You know whose pain truly suicidal and/or homicidal people don't care about? The pain their actions might cause others. You know why? Because they cannot see past the horrific downward spiral their own thoughts have become.

    Some of you have no idea just how sick and violent a person's thoughts can become. Some of you ought to pray you never understand that rather than judge those who do.

    Not quite sure about what you are saying here. Are you agreeing or disagreeing? Is your first part sarcasm?
    call me confused :?
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    I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Boo Boo wrote:
    Not quite sure about what you are saying here. Are you agreeing or disagreeing? Is your first part sarcasm?
    call me confused :?


    Sorry, when I lay on the sarcasm that thick I figure it will be obvious. No, we don't say that to our veterans. We understand just how quickly a mind can become scrambled and we don't judge the folks we are unable to help. We don't call them selfish when they blow their brains all over their apartment walls. It is an act of desperation, not selfishness.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    if im ever really bad off im finding mr. brown stone and a sharpie...
    true fact.
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    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    I agree with your first half. The second seemed somewhat unnecessary.

    i thought it might ruffle a few feathers ... but, i'm gonna stand by it as a theory as to why someone would feel compelled to commit suicide over this incident ... as some here are thinking he was just embarassed or something like that ...
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Some of you have no idea just how sick and violent a person's thoughts can become. Some of you ought to pray you never understand that rather than judge those who do.

    i can i'm half German

    Ever answered your door with a loaded .44 in your hands because you thought a cop was standing outside to tell you to turn your music down? I'm telling you folks, you don't even want to understand true craziness.

    No, but i did get married. True just once, but it was enough.
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    chadwick wrote:
    if im ever really bad off im finding mr. brown stone and a sharpie...
    true fact.


    See, this i understand.
  • It's just sad. I'd rather not debate whether it was selfish, whether it was more sad or less sad than someone being killed by a stray bullet, cause in the end it's just damn sad. Sad that his sexuality would even be something to be embarrassed about. Sad that it was used to bully him. Sad that he felt the pain of it was so overwhelming that he committed suicide. Sad for the family and friends who never got a chance to help him through this.

    well said.
    "...And I fight back in my mind. Never lets me be right.
    I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    eyedclaar wrote:
    It is an act of desperation, not selfishness.
  • chadwick wrote:
    if im ever really bad off im finding mr. brown stone and a sharpie...
    true fact.


    See, this i understand.

    :? uhh..call me stupid as well as confused...I don't get it...
    can you pm me and help me out :)
    "...And I fight back in my mind. Never lets me be right.
    I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
  • Poor kid, how awful :( and those assholes that taped him, I hope they get the book thrown at 'em and put in jail.

    I'm also saddened by the lack of compassion. No one is exempt from the human condition....feel lucky if you've never felt that desperate before.
  • Part of why some people commit suicide, especially adolescents, is because they think nobody is gonna "get it." They think no one will understand why they're so overwhelmed with what they're feeling...that it will be minimized and brushed away and they'll be told they're over-reacting...kind of like what's happening on here. We don't have to understand why it was such a big deal to him that he felt there was no other way out...we just have to understand that it was. I spend 90% of my time trying to "get it." Half the battle is just validating what someone is feeling
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  • dcfaithful
    dcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    Tragic, and sad. As having lost a siblign to suicide, I feel for the kid in his moment of humiliation, and for his family in their time of terrible and unfortunate loss. It's a shame that the kid couldn't deal long enough to see through the bullshit...

    but his roommate is an even more sad excuse for a human being. What a fuck. I seriously hope this haunts him for a very long time.
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    That is so incredibly sad. No matter what punishment is handed out to the 2 involved in taping, they will have to live with what they did, for the rest of their life, and that will be their true punishment.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Boo Boo wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    if im ever really bad off im finding mr. brown stone and a sharpie...
    true fact.


    See, this i understand.

    :? uhh..call me stupid as well as confused...I don't get it...
    can you pm me and help me out :)


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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Boo Boo wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    if im ever really bad off im finding mr. brown stone and a sharpie...
    true fact.


    See, this i understand.

    :? uhh..call me stupid as well as confused...I don't get it...
    can you pm me and help me out :)
    heroin
    if i were bad off dying and all fuckered up

    im out to lunch till the end
    needle me up, boys
    im out

    im sorry my loved ones would have to see me like that
    but i'd do it and function pretty well i think
    if i didnt function well i wouldnt care anyway

    besides its supposed to be a great high.
    i can get into that concept as im dying from mega-cancer and agonizing pain.

    organs turning to liquid on me as i lie in bed all day?

    fuck off...
    bang a vein
    im goin home
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • why was it necessary to say it was a gay sexual encounter? seems like they're unnecessarily highlighting the very thing that led to this... being outed in such a public way would be incredibly traumatic... his family is already grieving - assuming they didn't know about his sexuality, there's no need to further complicate things

    stick to the important details instead of the gossip :?

    sad story
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    why was it necessary to say it was a gay sexual encounter? seems like they're unnecessarily highlighting the very thing that led to this... being outed in such a public way would be incredibly traumatic... his family is already grieving - assuming they didn't know about his sexuality, there's no need to further complicate things

    stick to the important details instead of the gossip :?

    sad story
    thanks, man.
    i agree.

    people can be cruel, people are cruel.
    quite sad.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    It's hard to believe people can be so cruel.
    My hope is the 2 that taped him will someday feel his pain and
    his disillusionment and disappointment in the human race.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    It's hard to believe people can be so cruel.
    My hope is the 2 that taped him will someday feel his pain and
    his disillusionment and disappointment in the human race.
    it's pretty easy to love
    spread it

    that's all i have,
    carry on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce