college kid commits suicide after being secretly taped

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  • 81
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    metsfan wrote:


    :roll:


    don't roll your eyes. yes the broadcasting of the dudes sexual escapeds wasn't the brightest thing that these kids could have done. however, there actions did not result in teh kids death. the kid decided of his own free will to jump. nobody told him too, nobody pushed him, and as far as we know, nobody even suggested it.

    if you were to commit suicide (and i'm not suggesting that you do) because you have been called a sport fraud and you left a suicide note stating as such, should jegs be held accountable because he made you feel bad :?:
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  • catefrances
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    81 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:


    :roll:


    don't roll your eyes. yes the broadcasting of the dudes sexual escapeds wasn't the brightest thing that these kids could have done. however, there actions did not result in teh kids death. the kid decided of his own free will to jump. nobody told him too, nobody pushed him, and as far as we know, nobody even suggested it.

    if you were to commit suicide (and i'm not suggesting that you do) because you have been called a sport fraud and you left a suicide note stating as such, should jegs be held accountable because he made you feel bad :?:

    youre right. murder requires intent to kill. i also think it requires premeditation. if im mistaken someone correct me.
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  • Gary Carter
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    81 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:


    :roll:


    don't roll your eyes. yes the broadcasting of the dudes sexual escapeds wasn't the brightest thing that these kids could have done. however, there actions did not result in teh kids death. the kid decided of his own free will to jump. nobody told him too, nobody pushed him, and as far as we know, nobody even suggested it.
    no their actions did cause him to kill himself. you have no idea what the kids life is like and nor will any one of us ever know who isn't gay know the hardships he was put through for the 18 years of his life. it's very easy to be a monday morning quarterback bout this and say oh it's its selfish and all everything else. gay people get made fun of day in and day out and eventually theirs only so much you can take. he killed himself cause everyone in the fucking world now knows he was gay including his family members all cause of a stupid by some immature scumbag kids. many family members of gay people disown them cause of their gayness and cause of that it leads a gay person to kill themselves. go look at the number of gay people that kill themselves.

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  • catefrances
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    metsfan wrote:
    81 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:


    :roll:


    don't roll your eyes. yes the broadcasting of the dudes sexual escapeds wasn't the brightest thing that these kids could have done. however, there actions did not result in teh kids death. the kid decided of his own free will to jump. nobody told him too, nobody pushed him, and as far as we know, nobody even suggested it.
    no their actions did cause him to kill himself. you have no idea what the kids life is like and nor will any one of us ever know who isn't gay know the hardships he was put through for the 18 years of his life. it's very easy to be a monday morning quarterback bout this and say oh it's its selfish and all everything else. gay people get made fun of day in and day out and eventually theirs only so much you can take. he killed himself cause everyone in the fucking world now knows he was gay including his family members all cause of a stupid by some immature scumbag kids. many family members of gay people disown them cause of their gayness and cause of that it leads a gay person to kill themselves. go look at the number of gay people that kill themselves.

    yes i will roll my eyes at you and don't ever fucking tell me what to do

    brian, no ones debating that. whats being debated is that murder isnt the appropriate charge to be brought against those idiots. and as i stated above for a murder charge, intent needs to be established. not to mention he committed suicide. and as unfortunate as this incident is, i doubt thats what their intent was. it was mischief making. jerky mischief making.
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  • catefrances
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    MURDER
    (N.J.S.A. 2C:11-3a(l) and 3a(2))
    The defendant is charged by indictment with the murder of (insert name of victim). Count of the indictment reads as follows: (Read indictment)
    A person is guilty of murder if (he/she):
    (1) caused the victim’s death or serious bodily injury that then resulted in the victim’s death;1 and
    (2) the defendant did so purposely or knowingly.
    In order for you to find the defendant guilty of murder, the State is required to prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
    (1) that the defendant caused (insert victim's name) death or serious bodily injury that then resulted in (insert victim's name) death, and
    (2) that the defendant did so purposely or knowingly.
    One element that the State must prove beyond a reasonable doubt is that the defendant acted purposely or knowingly.
    A person acts purposely when it is the person's conscious object to cause death or serious bodily injury resulting in death.2
    A person acts knowingly when the person is aware that it is practically certain that (his/her) conduct will cause death or serious bodily injury resulting in death.3..



    this is imcomplete so if youre really interested then ....

    http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/crimin ... icide2.pdf
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  • same people same shit :mrgreen:

    needed a smiley face b4 people get too worked up



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  • :( can't we all just get along? :D
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  • 81
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    metsfan wrote:
    don't ever fucking tell me what to do


    go make me some pancakes and serve them on a bunny's head
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  • 81
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    Boo Boo wrote:
    :( can't we all just get along? :D


    we can if people would accept facts as facts and not try to draw dotted lines. :P
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  • 81 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    don't ever fucking tell me what to do


    go make me some pancakes and serve them on a bunny's head
    :lol: Nice to see you are in a good mood this morning, Senor 81. I want pancakes too.

    As far as this kid goes, I'd just like to make a comment about the bigger picture here. When I was in college, and it wasn't even that long ago, there were no cellphones, no YouTube, nothing like that. This type of shit wouldn't have even been possible a few years ago. I feel really bad for any high schooler or college kid nowadays that has to deal with all this shit, on top of Facebook and the evils attached to that. Cyber-bullying has become a hot-button issue here in MA after that girl killed herself after being ridiculed by her classmates. So sad. It's tough being a kid today.
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    :wave: good morning faithful.


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  • eyedclaar
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    metsfan wrote:
    Some of you have no idea just how sick and violent a person's thoughts can become. Some of you ought to pray you never understand that rather than judge those who do.
    well said

    That was well said, Binaural Jam. In fact, it almost read like something I would have written. 8-)
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  • catefrances
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    Some of you have no idea just how sick and violent a person's thoughts can become. Some of you ought to pray you never understand that rather than judge those who do.
    well said

    That was well said, Binaural Jam. In fact, it almost read like something I would have written. 8-)


    :lol::lol::lol:

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  • eyedclaar
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    :lol::lol::lol:

    aaah eyed you make me laugh sometimes.

    Make you laugh
    Make you cry
    Make you want to stick
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    eyedclaar wrote:


    :lol::lol::lol:

    aaah eyed you make me laugh sometimes.

    Make you laugh
    Make you cry
    Make you want to stick
    A stick in my eye?

    something like that. 8-)
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  • polaris_x wrote:
    I agree with your first half. The second seemed somewhat unnecessary.

    i thought it might ruffle a few feathers ... but, i'm gonna stand by it as a theory as to why someone would feel compelled to commit suicide over this incident ... as some here are thinking he was just embarassed or something like that ...

    I'm going to stand by my theory that it was unnecessary to have made such a comment. I'll wager non-religious and non-conservative individuals commit suicide also.
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  • 81
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    those silly college kids
    NORMAN, Okla. (AP)—Oklahoma has suspended receiver Jaz Reynolds indefinitely after he posted what coach Bob Stoops called “insensitive remarks” on his Twitter page about a gunman who committed suicide on the University of Texas campus.

    An account with the handle JazReynolds posted the message, “Hey everyone in Austin, tx…….kill yourself” on Tuesday, the day of the suicide, followed by a disregard request 5 minutes later. The account was deactivated Wednesday.

    Stoops says he is “incredibly disappointed that someone connected with our team would react so callously.”

    Reynolds, who has no catches this season, will miss at least Saturday’s game between the eighth-ranked Sooners and No. 21 Texas in Dallas.

    Stoops says that the “rivalry with Texas will not come at the expense of dignity and respect.”
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  • polaris_x
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    I'm going to stand by my theory that it was unnecessary to have made such a comment. I'll wager non-religious and non-conservative individuals commit suicide also.

    uhhh ... first of all - it's not a theory if that is what you believe ... secondly, you miss the point completely as i am nowhere close to inferring only conservative, religious people commit suicide ... there is more to this story than we know and there are lessons to be learned ... obviously, streaming your roommates private moments for shits and giggles is the stuff assholes and losers are made of ... i could be wrong but if i'm not - there might be an additional lesson for all of us ...
  • Lizard
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    Boo Boo wrote:
    :( can't we all just get along? :D

    That's what this thread needs, Rodney King pearls of wisdom!!! 8-)
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  • 81 wrote:
    a kid walking down the street that gets killed by a stray bullet is sad. a kid jumping off a bridge doesn't sadden me. it sucks that he was embarressed by what transpired with the filming.

    I just have to ask are you a parent and i def don't agree with your statement ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....