NCAA College Football -

HesCalledDyer

The current system is worse than the Bowl Coalition, the Bowl Alliance, and the BCS.

mace1229

eddiec said:

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Oh boy.
Why not a 16 team playoff?

I was thinking at least 8. That's only 1 more game, and when there is so much opinion/controversy in the rankings, why not?

I know many people want to expand it to 8 teams but personally I think 4 is better.

I think an 8 team playoff will ruin the regular season. Many of the traditional powers wouldn't schedule difficult non-conference games. I like Notre Dame but a 2 loss ND would make the playoff every year. The Power 5 conference teams would have to worry about 2 or 3 games a season.

What sucks about it though is there are teams with the same record (9-1) that are likely not going to make it, only because their schedule wasn't as difficult, or when they won't it wasn't as big of a land slide, or whatever goes into their ranking calculations.
With 8 teams at least almost every year all the teams with the best record would likely get in.

F Me In The Brain

I guess a lot depends on if you think the team playing best at the end of the season should have a shot or if it is the team that has played the best all year long.  (Yes, as I type that I realize there are holes in that thought...but on the overall/bigger picture try to think of it that way)

I do not love the idea of 2 loss teams playing for championships -- just not the way I came to know college football.  It has happened but not often. 

Having to be pretty much perfect to have a shot was fun.  Now...I just feel like you lose that feeling.  How in the frig is Ohio State still in so-called contention?  They got smoked x2.  They should be out, no matter what. 

I do not argue that teams in the Top 10 may be able to beat teams Head to Head in a playoff matchup that are ranked way ahead of them at year's end.  Have believed that to be the case many times over the years. 

Tough to figure out, for me.  Every angle I find presents a legitimate problem.

F Me In The Brain

mace1229 said:

eddiec said:

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Oh boy.
Why not a 16 team playoff?

I was thinking at least 8. That's only 1 more game, and when there is so much opinion/controversy in the rankings, why not?

I know many people want to expand it to 8 teams but personally I think 4 is better.

I think an 8 team playoff will ruin the regular season. Many of the traditional powers wouldn't schedule difficult non-conference games. I like Notre Dame but a 2 loss ND would make the playoff every year. The Power 5 conference teams would have to worry about 2 or 3 games a season.

What sucks about it though is there are teams with the same record (9-1) that are likely not going to make it, only because their schedule wasn't as difficult, or when they won't it wasn't as big of a land slide, or whatever goes into their ranking calculations.
With 8 teams at least almost every year all the teams with the best record would likely get in.

I think that is where the committee is meant to take everything they have for data into consideration, right?

Who would those teams be if we were to use this year?

(Disclaimer -- I dont think everyone should be included.  All things are very rarely equal, imo.  It is meant to be an incredible thing, to win a College Football Championship.)

lolobugg

my prediction for tonight.....

1. The Tide

2. Clemson

3. Oklahoma

4. Miami

5. Wisconsin

6. All-barn

darwinstheory

^^^close 

1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. Miami
4. Oklahoma 
5. Wisconsin 
6. Auburn
7. Georgia
8. Notre Dame

KC138045

IMO...Clemson should be no higher than five.  You cannot discount that loss to Syracuse just like you can't discount my Buckeyes horrible loss to freakin Iowa.  I would have it
1. Bama
2. Miami
3. Oklahoma
4. Wisconsin(even though I think they lose to TTUN this week)

It's going to be a lot of fun seeing how things pan out these next three weeks.

mace1229

KC138045 said:

IMO...Clemson should be no higher than five.  You cannot discount that loss to Syracuse just like you can't discount my Buckeyes horrible loss to freakin Iowa.  I would have it
1. Bama
2. Miami
3. Oklahoma
4. Wisconsin(even though I think they lose to TTUN this week)

It's going to be a lot of fun seeing how things pan out these next three weeks.

I think I just saw Clemson got pushed up to #2.
I wouldn't agree with that, but your rankings you discount OKs loss. No matter what 1 or 2 of the top 4 teams are going to have a big loss. I think Clemson's loss was "discounted" more since the starting QB was clearly injured to start and taken out before half.
I'm a Clemson fan so I'm a little bias. 
But I think they'll make it to the championship and (unfortunately) get blown out by Alabama. They don't have the offensive strength they did the last 2 years.

HesCalledDyer

I'm ok with Clemson being #2.  For years we all heard how a 1-loss SEC team was superior to an undefeated team from any other conference.  With ACC teams not only playing for, but winning, multiple championships in the past few seasons, it's about damn time they started getting the same notoriety and respect.

F Me In The Brain

I think it doesnt matter much since there are still games to be played.  Will see when the dust settles.

darwinstheory

^^^so there's still hope for a ND vs. USC playoff match-up? Hahaha....how great would that be though?

F Me In The Brain

Yeah, no way USC deserves to get it.  There are scenarios but I just dont see any of them happening.  Only way is if Stanford destroys ND and we pound them again for a 2nd time in the title game...or I guess if WSU makes it and we blow them out.  (Which we would)

We got our shit pushed in.  I think getting slaughtered should take you out of title discussion unless the only loss you had was to that team and they went undefeated and were #1.

It would be great & someday it could happen.  Not this year!

ehbacon

WWWWWWWWWWWISCONSIN

darwinstheory

Are we talking about the WWWWWWWWWWWISCONSIN...the only team in the top 25 to not face a team that will be in the top 25 after Tuesday?

joberschlake

darwinstheory said:

Are we talking about the WWWWWWWWWWWISCONSIN...the only team in the top 25 to not face a team that will be in the top 25 after Tuesday?

Ohio State will smoke them in Indy.  And OSU isn’t that good this year.

59-0, never forget.

Cliffy6745

joberschlake said:

darwinstheory said:

Are we talking about the WWWWWWWWWWWISCONSIN...the only team in the top 25 to not face a team that will be in the top 25 after Tuesday?

Ohio State will smoke them in Indy.  And OSU isn’t that good this year.

59-0, never forget.

You really like to talk about that shut out. Like 10 months ago Ohio state didn't get shut out in the playoffs. 

F Me In The Brain

Any day we beat those dogs from fUCLA is a good day.
Coaches are still total fools, though.

Wobbie

even if OSU loses to michigan, I still see them beating wisconsin.

even if OSU wins both, they should not get in.....last year’s shellacking by clemson is evidence.

darwinstheory

F Me In The Brain said:

Any day we beat those dogs from fUCLA is a good day.
Coaches are still total fools, though.

Well, now you (fUSC) can hire Mora! 

F Me In The Brain

Ha!  That guy sucks even more than our coaches