i thought justice was served when the sentence has been carried out??
True, very true. So sad that for years now we'll be feeding this piece of shit and letting him breathe another day. But at least he can sit around and wait for his own fate.
i thought justice was served when the sentence has been carried out??
True, very true. So sad that for years now we'll be feeding this piece of shit and letting him breathe another day. But at least he can sit around and wait for his own fate.
who all did he hurt & take their life?
mom and kids?
i know you sll have your reasons for thinking the way you do about this topic, but personally i cant justify to myself the taking of the life of another. and therefore i project that out into my society. if someone i loved was murdered id want the killer dead. of course i would. id be so emotional and wrought with hysteria, anguish that i wouldnt be able to think straight. and so retribution would be foremost in my mind. but then id calm down, work through my grief and remember that an eye for an eye isnt something i can condone. it wont bring back my loved one and itd cause another family the same anguish i felt. who wants that kind of paying it forward??
for all the talk about man not being an animal i hear too much baying for blood and i dont want to be anywhere near it. nor do i want such negativity around me and i dont want it around my children and grandchild.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
if someone kills another person we call it "murder".
if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".
at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?
you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
if someone kills another person we call it "murder".
if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".
at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?
you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....
It's not that hard to understand. If someone kills an innocent human being(especially a child) for just the pleasure it gives them, it is called murder. By removing this person from society it makes it justice.
if someone kills another person we call it "murder".
if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".
at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?
you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....
youre confused because of the hypocrisy of it all.
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"Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, surrounded by her stuffed animals."
This is what he should have said
Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, while her house was surrounded by gutless cowards from the Cheshire Police Dept.
if someone kills another person we call it "murder".
if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".
at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?
you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....
It's got nothing to do with justice. It comes down to the fact of living in a society which was founded on genocide, and that bases it's beliefs on a confused interpretation of a 2000 year old Middle Eastern religion whose vengeful God had no qualms about committing abitrary mass slaughter.
This, coupled with a fearful population obsessed with violence, means that for many people the death penalty is not only perfectly acceptable, but is something to froth at the mouth over, and write poetry about.
"Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, surrounded by her stuffed animals."
This is what he should have said
Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, while her house was surrounded by gutless cowards from the Cheshire Police Dept.
this is getting bad
this story makes me sick
can we skip it
uncool like it hit me like a ton of bricks, uncool... that's how ill it makes a guy
if someone kills another person we call it "murder".
if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".
at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?
you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....
youre confused because of the hypocrisy of it all.
exactly....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, surrounded by her stuffed animals."
And yet there are hundreds of Americans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan who've massacred little girls in their bedrooms and these people are treated to a hero's welcome.
And yet we in the West still wonder why we're confused?
last saturday during a road trip down the coast, my companion said hed have no problem being an executioner. i dont even know what we were talking about at the time. anyways i let the comment slide and we continued on with the conversation. a short while later he said, you didnt comment on my executioner thing i repiled, well what do you want me to say?. he hesitated. then asked what if.. knowing what was coming(cause it inevitably does) i cut him off and said it wouldnt matter if a loved one was murdered. it wouldnt change my anti death penalty stance. i said its like pascals wager in a way. believing in God just in case. how would God feel knowing you were hedging your bets and that your belief in him extended only as far as when heaven was proven to exist. even as an atheist i doubt God would be kosher with such a lack of resolve. anyways my companion reiterated his not having a problem with meteing out capital punishment. i said nothing more but wondered when it came down to it could he really go through with it...and the conversation moved on to music.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
last saturday during a road trip down the coast, my companion said hed have no problem being an executioner. i dont even know what we were talking about at the time. anyways i let the comment slide and we continued on with the conversation. a short while later he said, you didnt comment on my executioner thing i repiled, well what do you want me to say?. he hesitated. then asked what if.. knowing what was coming(cause it inevitably does) i cut him off and said it wouldnt matter if a loved one was murdered. it wouldnt change my anti death penalty stance. i said its like pascals wager in a way. believing in God just in case. how would God feel knowing you were hedging your bets and that your belief in him extended only as far as when heaven was proven to exist. even as an atheist i doubt God would be kosher with such a lack of resolve. anyways my companion reiterated his not having a problem with meteing out capital punishment. i said nothing more but wondered when it came down to it could he really go through with it...and the conversation moved on to music.
last saturday during a road trip down the coast, my companion said hed have no problem being an executioner. i dont even know what we were talking about at the time. anyways i let the comment slide and we continued on with the conversation. a short while later he said, you didnt comment on my executioner thing i repiled, well what do you want me to say?. he hesitated. then asked what if.. knowing what was coming(cause it inevitably does) i cut him off and said it wouldnt matter if a loved one was murdered. it wouldnt change my anti death penalty stance. i said its like pascals wager in a way. believing in God just in case. how would God feel knowing you were hedging your bets and that your belief in him extended only as far as when heaven was proven to exist. even as an atheist i doubt God would be kosher with such a lack of resolve. anyways my companion reiterated his not having a problem with meteing out capital punishment. i said nothing more but wondered when it came down to it could he really go through with it...and the conversation moved on to music.
like a death dealer?
life is the only death dealer i acknowledge.
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That should reduce the population of the U.S by a few million then.
correct........reduce the population swiftly and end the worthless things that prey upon children.
Who said anything about 'preying on children'? The age of consent is different from state to state, right? It's also different from country to country.
Anyway, you propose killing everyone in California who has had sex with someone under the age of 18? And what percentage of the population of California would that be? 80%? 90%?
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"In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."
State-sanctioned murder is not an act of a civilized society.
"In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."
True, very true. So sad that for years now we'll be feeding this piece of shit and letting him breathe another day. But at least he can sit around and wait for his own fate.
mom and kids?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Murder the murderer, right?
Maybe the fact that the state condones murder has something to do with why murder is so widespread in your country?
JUSTICE!!!!!
Are you God?
i know you sll have your reasons for thinking the way you do about this topic, but personally i cant justify to myself the taking of the life of another. and therefore i project that out into my society. if someone i loved was murdered id want the killer dead. of course i would. id be so emotional and wrought with hysteria, anguish that i wouldnt be able to think straight. and so retribution would be foremost in my mind. but then id calm down, work through my grief and remember that an eye for an eye isnt something i can condone. it wont bring back my loved one and itd cause another family the same anguish i felt. who wants that kind of paying it forward??
for all the talk about man not being an animal i hear too much baying for blood and i dont want to be anywhere near it. nor do i want such negativity around me and i dont want it around my children and grandchild.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
" ... the moral contradiction inherent in a policy which imitates the violence it claims to abhor and in fact premeditates it."
- Albert Camus
America isn't a civilized society. A civilized society doesn't commit murder in the name of justice.
if someone kills another person we call it "murder".
if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".
at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?
you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Yes
you are confused
i feel terrible
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
youre confused because of the hypocrisy of it all.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
This is what he should have said
Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, while her house was surrounded by gutless cowards from the Cheshire Police Dept.
It's got nothing to do with justice. It comes down to the fact of living in a society which was founded on genocide, and that bases it's beliefs on a confused interpretation of a 2000 year old Middle Eastern religion whose vengeful God had no qualms about committing abitrary mass slaughter.
This, coupled with a fearful population obsessed with violence, means that for many people the death penalty is not only perfectly acceptable, but is something to froth at the mouth over, and write poetry about.
this story makes me sick
can we skip it
uncool like it hit me like a ton of bricks, uncool... that's how ill it makes a guy
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
that poor man
i feel so bad for him
he has a lot of strength inside him
i in his shoes i envision myself blowing haynes head off in the courthouse
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
And yet there are hundreds of Americans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan who've massacred little girls in their bedrooms and these people are treated to a hero's welcome.
And yet we in the West still wonder why we're confused?
Do you ever find yourself wishing you'd been born in the Middle Ages instead?
how many times do we have to go over this mr. byrnzie?
fuck......
you make a guy tired
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
These 2 men were released on parole. That is how your term of a civilized society turns out.
life is the only death dealer i acknowledge.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Who said anything about 'preying on children'? The age of consent is different from state to state, right? It's also different from country to country.
Anyway, you propose killing everyone in California who has had sex with someone under the age of 18? And what percentage of the population of California would that be? 80%? 90%?