wolfamongwolves as I said to Truth I respect your opinion on this issue and I even understand where you are coming from on this (I think) but as you have said my stance on this issue is an opinion as is yours so there is no absolute right or wrong, you bring up the execution of a innocent person to stop the death penalty and I bring up the unrepairable minds of people convicted and the friends and family of victims left behind for my opinion and stance on the issue and both of our examples and opinions have merit so the end issue comes down to a vote on the death penalty by each state.
Godfather.
so are you advocating euthanasia? as if to ease the suffering of the convicted and prevent them from living with their "unrepairable minds". sounds pretty condescending to me, as if you think you would be doing them a favor or something....because euthanasia is illegal, then so should be the death penalty.
euthanasia? ....as long as they're dead who cares .
condescending...ohhhh really ?
your trying to add you own twist to my post, are you ready to throw up the white flag ?
Godfather.
in case you have not read my posts and figured it out, I CARE.
it does not matter what someone does, i will never have anyone murdered in my name with my tax dollars. i will never accept it, whether it be war, covert ops, extraordinary rendition, or death penalty. it is unethical because the procedures are flawed, are sometimes botched, and innocent people are executed. even the most self righteous of us should be able to recognize that and say "wait a minute, something IS wrong, let's investigate and see if we can figure out what..." and when the UN is again investigating our human rights abuses i think it would go a long way to regain resepct from the rest of the world if we ended capital punishment like most of the civilized countries in this world. why can't we be a leader in the realm of human rights? we always trumpet how great we are in that regard, how about putting our collective money where our mouths are and show the world we are better than this?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Truth; look man I agree with you that the system is flawed,the bad guys get away all the time through loop holes and yes sometimes a innocent person gets convicted and I my self could never kill for crime or pleasure shit I don't even hunt anymore,I also agree killing a criminal will not bring the victim back or even give their family and friends much comfort from their loss but...if a person kills for the above reasons then all bets are off they have at that moment agreed to forfeit their lives for taking a life.
life in prison is not good enough it has to be equal in punishment for the crime of murder, some cases may be self defense or an accident that 's different but a needless Hainess crime of murder is in my opinion a capital punishment crime, if a person can't deal with that then they should re-think their actions.
again all this is my opinion.
like the link i posted about richard ramirez
i do fully believe he works with evil/satan
no decent human being does those things
many around are just like that
so wipe that cruel shit away
no more pumping heart for them fuckers
it's the way it is
sometimes I get the feeling that this is more of a "people who believe in evil/Satan are for the death penalty" thing. they actually believe they are doing god's work by killing the devil. thoughts?
like the link i posted about richard ramirez
i do fully believe he works with evil/satan
no decent human being does those things
many around are just like that
so wipe that cruel shit away
no more pumping heart for them fuckers
it's the way it is
send them on their way
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sometimes I get the feeling that this is more of a "people who believe in evil/Satan are for the death penalty" thing. they actually believe they are doing god's work by killing the devil. thoughts?
like the link i posted about richard ramirez
i do fully believe he works with evil/satan
no decent human being does those things
many around are just like that
so wipe that cruel shit away
no more pumping heart for them fuckers
it's the way it is
send them on their way
no...
i do believe in right/good & wrong/bad
why would i torture & rape a 87 year old grandmother; strangle her 90 year old sister with a phone cord,
and steal their diamonds while chomping on a apple i picked up from the kitchen counter?
nobody does that unless they are evil and or insane beyond what the fuckever......
was this a good act?
no
was it wrong?
yes
was it bad?
yes
was it right?
no
simple shit...
evil cruel mindless uselessness.
cold and calculated, or not...
either way it's fucked
and so is the maniac that did it
sometimes I get the feeling that this is more of a "people who believe in evil/Satan are for the death penalty" thing. they actually believe they are doing god's work by killing the devil. thoughts?
Maybe for some folks, although I'm not sure how any true follower of the Christian religion can believe that, what with the whole, "Though shall not kill" angle going on. I have never heard a good explanation of that one. Godfather, give that a shot for me.
I, on the other hand, don't believe in God or Devils, and as such certainly don't have a problem with offing genuinely dangerous assholes.
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for me there is good and there is evil
not hell underground on fire,,, no
not heaven in blue skies and fluffy white clouds? um no
there is a lot going on in and after this life
im for the better of myself & mankind
getting rid of living breathing foulness,,, probably not such a bad idea sometimes
Connecticut has only put one person to death since 1960 so it think this is a win for both opponents and proponents of the death penalty. He has been sentenced to death but will probably die of boredom and natural causes before receiving his punishment.
Thats not a surprise, the state of Connecticut is a joke. The fact that it took 38 months to get a triple murder case to trial is beyond reprehensible especially considering both of them were caught at the scene of the crime. I do believe though that with the publicity and heinous nature of these crimes that both of them will eventually be executed and justice will be served in this case.
I'm pro death penalty for no-brainers. 100% guilty. The notion that we would rather "off" someone rather than admitting something is absurd and really shows your misunderstanding that republicans have on certain issues.
i do not have a misunderstanding at all, and it is not a democrat or republican issue at all. it is a HUMAN issue. just like with wars and the iraq war wikileaks, our leaders would rather pull the trigger and ask questions later. same as with some of these death penalty cases in texas the last few years. same as in the wm3 case. some people would rather see them killed before all of the evidence has been heard. and if that is true in the justice system then that system is absolutely broken.
yeah, i know your understanding. It's a HUMAN issue for murderers but not for abortion. :roll:
cold blooded killers are not the only folks
that can be put to death.
serial rapists and child molesters... done
they never murdered anyone... they have however crossed a major line
fire up the needle, the bullet, the chair
whatever...
nothing wrong with offing the worst fuckers
^^^^^ case in point..
"i have firmly and clearly stated my position over the course of 80 something pages of this thread. who is digging for direct insults? i am stating my opinion on this topic where if you read back in this thread people have posted poetry about fanticizing about killing prisoners, and have basically gotten off on it and i find that disgusting. it is my opinion that a good number of those people who support the death penalty are sick and have some sort of mental disfunction. if a person supports it i think they are the sick one, not me. if you support the death penalty you support murder, which is the exact same thing the death penalty is supposed to deter and punish people who have murdered. that is it. i would also go as far to state that a good number of people who support capital punishment also crave retribution and revenge. and why is it that the people who are the loudest in advocating capital punishment have no dog in the fight, as in they have not had a family member murdered and are not directly involved in any of these cases....
and we have executed innocent people, and in texas mentally retarded people, and even women. if one innocent person is murdered by the state, the blood is on all of our hands and the system is broken...
nobody has advocated taking ax murderers out of prison or putting them into the general prison population...jeez....how about putting them in 23 hour lockdown in a supermax? yeah that sucks, but at least they will not be put to death in my name with that execution being paid for by my tax dollars."
Dude....you really need to try thinking outside the box.
the whole system is simply too unreliable to do anything that is irreversible. giving the government the absolute power to choose life or death and kill it's citizens is not the smartest move. plus i've already said many times it's barbaric and inhuman. that is not how a civilized society should act. killing to show killing is wrong....
very interesting to see some of the comments in here from people who are loudly avdocating that they want less government involvement in their life in other threads but they are ok with the government having the power to kill it's citizens.
cold blooded killers are not the only folks
that can be put to death.
serial rapists and child molesters... done
they never murdered anyone... they have however crossed a major line
fire up the needle, the bullet, the chair
whatever...
nothing wrong with offing the worst fuckers
^^^^^ case in point..
"i have firmly and clearly stated my position over the course of 80 something pages of this thread. who is digging for direct insults? i am stating my opinion on this topic where if you read back in this thread people have posted poetry about fanticizing about killing prisoners, and have basically gotten off on it and i find that disgusting. it is my opinion that a good number of those people who support the death penalty are sick and have some sort of mental disfunction. if a person supports it i think they are the sick one, not me. if you support the death penalty you support murder, which is the exact same thing the death penalty is supposed to deter and punish people who have murdered. that is it. i would also go as far to state that a good number of people who support capital punishment also crave retribution and revenge. and why is it that the people who are the loudest in advocating capital punishment have no dog in the fight, as in they have not had a family member murdered and are not directly involved in any of these cases....
and we have executed innocent people, and in texas mentally retarded people, and even women. if one innocent person is murdered by the state, the blood is on all of our hands and the system is broken...
nobody has advocated taking ax murderers out of prison or putting them into the general prison population...jeez....how about putting them in 23 hour lockdown in a supermax? yeah that sucks, but at least they will not be put to death in my name with that execution being paid for by my tax dollars."
Dude....you really need to try thinking outside the box.
are you going to contribute to the topic at hand or sit back and lob personal attacks?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
ok fuckers, gather 'round
take up a chair... please sit
you in the snot stained t-shirt
grab a chair
you're making me nervous, trigger finger itchin & whatnot
what about these nasty pricks contributing to society, yes/no?
every Sunday evil dumb asshole gets to be professor dipshit (or whatever name he/she desires) and school
100 guests/students on something of his or her choice...
location... yard of captive housing unit
rain or shine
all officers are armed and ready to rock
dicknuts get one old school chalk board, one standard eraser, one stick of chalk
one dictionary
one thesaurus
college level algebra, english, and science books
ok fuckers, gather 'round
take up a chair... please sit
you in the snot stained t-shirt
grab a chair
you're making me nervous, trigger finger itchin & whatnot
what about these nasty pricks contributing to society, yes/no?
every Sunday evil dumb asshole gets to be professor dipshit (or whatever name he/she desires) and school
100 guests/students on something of his or her choice...
location... yard of captive housing unit
rain or shine
all officers are armed and ready to rock
dicknuts get one old school chalk board, one standard eraser, one stick of chalk
one dictionary
one thesaurus
college level algebra, english, and science books
i would be satisfied if things were eliminated for molestation of kids and other crimes committed against children.
i know, i know....i am viewed as pure evil amongst the pearligious.
Apparently in California everyone under the age of 18 is considered a child, so following your logic a good percentage of Californians should be classed as child molestors and executed.
i would be satisfied if things were eliminated for molestation of kids and other crimes committed against children.
i know, i know....i am viewed as pure evil amongst the pearligious.
Apparently in California everyone under the age of 18 is considered a child, so following your logic a good percentage of Californians should be classed as child molestors and executed.
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it does not matter what someone does, i will never have anyone murdered in my name with my tax dollars. i will never accept it, whether it be war, covert ops, extraordinary rendition, or death penalty. it is unethical because the procedures are flawed, are sometimes botched, and innocent people are executed. even the most self righteous of us should be able to recognize that and say "wait a minute, something IS wrong, let's investigate and see if we can figure out what..." and when the UN is again investigating our human rights abuses i think it would go a long way to regain resepct from the rest of the world if we ended capital punishment like most of the civilized countries in this world. why can't we be a leader in the realm of human rights? we always trumpet how great we are in that regard, how about putting our collective money where our mouths are and show the world we are better than this?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
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life in prison is not good enough it has to be equal in punishment for the crime of murder, some cases may be self defense or an accident that 's different but a needless Hainess crime of murder is in my opinion a capital punishment crime, if a person can't deal with that then they should re-think their actions.
again all this is my opinion.
Godfather.
Godfather.
i do fully believe he works with evil/satan
no decent human being does those things
many around are just like that
so wipe that cruel shit away
no more pumping heart for them fuckers
it's the way it is
send them on their way
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
i do believe in right/good & wrong/bad
why would i torture & rape a 87 year old grandmother; strangle her 90 year old sister with a phone cord,
and steal their diamonds while chomping on a apple i picked up from the kitchen counter?
nobody does that unless they are evil and or insane beyond what the fuckever......
was this a good act?
no
was it wrong?
yes
was it bad?
yes
was it right?
no
simple shit...
evil cruel mindless uselessness.
cold and calculated, or not...
either way it's fucked
and so is the maniac that did it
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Maybe for some folks, although I'm not sure how any true follower of the Christian religion can believe that, what with the whole, "Though shall not kill" angle going on. I have never heard a good explanation of that one. Godfather, give that a shot for me.
I, on the other hand, don't believe in God or Devils, and as such certainly don't have a problem with offing genuinely dangerous assholes.
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not hell underground on fire,,, no
not heaven in blue skies and fluffy white clouds? um no
there is a lot going on in and after this life
im for the better of myself & mankind
getting rid of living breathing foulness,,, probably not such a bad idea sometimes
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Thats not a surprise, the state of Connecticut is a joke. The fact that it took 38 months to get a triple murder case to trial is beyond reprehensible especially considering both of them were caught at the scene of the crime. I do believe though that with the publicity and heinous nature of these crimes that both of them will eventually be executed and justice will be served in this case.
yeah, i know your understanding. It's a HUMAN issue for murderers but not for abortion. :roll:
Dude....you really need to try thinking outside the box.
very interesting to see some of the comments in here from people who are loudly avdocating that they want less government involvement in their life in other threads but they are ok with the government having the power to kill it's citizens.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
take up a chair... please sit
you in the snot stained t-shirt
grab a chair
you're making me nervous, trigger finger itchin & whatnot
what about these nasty pricks contributing to society, yes/no?
every Sunday evil dumb asshole gets to be professor dipshit (or whatever name he/she desires) and school
100 guests/students on something of his or her choice...
location... yard of captive housing unit
rain or shine
all officers are armed and ready to rock
dicknuts get one old school chalk board, one standard eraser, one stick of chalk
one dictionary
one thesaurus
college level algebra, english, and science books
go...
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
fail
you are a dickhead
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i know, i know....i am viewed as pure evil amongst the pearligious.
instant death in my opinion
touch a kid
old school war axe to the neck
i wish it were that easy
it should be just that simple
sadly that is just a fantasy in my head
and ajedigecko, thank you for inspiring :twisted:
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
attach cinder blocks to the things...instruct them to walk into the lake.
some maniacs listed in this thread could use these objects as friends
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Apparently in California everyone under the age of 18 is considered a child, so following your logic a good percentage of Californians should be classed as child molestors and executed.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
That should reduce the population of the U.S by a few million then.
3 short karate experts walk into a bar
the tall bartender says fuck off i know kicking and throw star maneuver
3 short karate experts numb chuck
like that...
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
and what does chinese british people have to do with anything??
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 5785.story
i thought justice was served when the sentence has been carried out??
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."