I wonder if some of these people get into a car accident that isn't their fault, and then turn their car back on, back up, and ram the other car back, because that is what's just and right?
accident being the key word.......thus, does not apply.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
Then the other question is when does an obvious dangerous person give up his rights.
that's an excellent point that I've wrestled with myself. I'm actually quite surprised it's never been addressed before. I don't have an answer to that one. Anyone?
I believe the moment a person knowingly commits a heinous crime, he/she has forfeited the right to freedom, etc. Basic human rights are to be acknowledged, certainly, but this person's sentence is a punishment, not a holiday. How this is implemented is up to the 'authorities' and is possibly a different debate to the morality of state sanctioned murder.
Assuming that the death penalty was abolished completely in the US, how do yo guarantee the public the most dangerous never get out. It's obvious from another post that dangerous people have been released or escaped. Would you build a super max in a remote area? 24 hour lock down? Then the other question is when does an obvious dangerous person give up his rights.
if the US can establish a maximum security facilty like Guantanamo to house prisoners who have never been charged and never been given a trial, one would assume that they could build something similar in the good old USA to house convicted murderers. yeah?
this should go without saying, but leaving out the torture, sexual degradation and other revolting acts would be nice too.
I wonder if some of these people get into a car accident that isn't their fault, and then turn their car back on, back up, and ram the other car back, because that is what's just and right?
accident being the key word.......thus, does not apply.
sorry.............forgot this was a "no humour zone". :roll:
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Assuming that the death penalty was abolished completely in the US, how do yo guarantee the public the most dangerous never get out. It's obvious from another post that dangerous people have been released or escaped. Would you build a super max in a remote area? 24 hour lock down? Then the other question is when does an obvious dangerous person give up his rights.
An answer to your first question might be to look to the rest of the world. Over 70% of countries in the world have abolished the death penalty, including all industrialised nations, except the US and Japan, so there is a huge wealth of precedents to be had.
The answer to your second is: he doesn't. That is the whole point of rights - everyone is entitled to them, by the merit of being human - and no one has the right to take them away, even if they have violated someone else's rights. No one is entitled to make the subjective judgment that someone has "forfeited" their rights. To do so totally undermines the very notion of rights. The only point where your rights are tempered is where they interact incompatibly with other people's rights. So you have the right to free expression, but only so much in that in excercising that right you aren't violating someone else's right to freedom from oppression, or discrimination etc. Or in this case, a person has the right to freedom, but only insomuch that his freedom doesn't violate other people's right to freedom from persecution, or their right to life.
By the way, before anyone says it, it is not legitimate to then say a prisoner has a right to life only insofar as he hasn't violated someone else's right to life, as that would be retrospective. Nor on the basis that "he might kill again" because that is purely speculative.
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Assuming that the death penalty was abolished completely in the US, how do yo guarantee the public the most dangerous never get out. It's obvious from another post that dangerous people have been released or escaped. Would you build a super max in a remote area? 24 hour lock down? Then the other question is when does an obvious dangerous person give up his rights.
There are over 310 million peopel in the U.S.
Since 1977 there have been an average of 37 people executed each year (in the US).
thats s pretty small number to worry about. But i wouldnt mind a 24 hr lockdown where they dont ever see the sun again.
in that earlier post by GF, it mostly wasnt the people on death row that were escaping and doing most of those terrible things when released. There's probably no guarnatee that anyone wont EVER get out.. just as much as there's no guarantee that everyone executed is guilty.
I guess an obvious dangerous person gives up his/her rights when they are convicted of their crimes.
Assuming that the death penalty was abolished completely in the US, how do yo guarantee the public the most dangerous never get out. It's obvious from another post that dangerous people have been released or escaped. Would you build a super max in a remote area? 24 hour lock down? Then the other question is when does an obvious dangerous person give up his rights.
if the US can establish a maximum security facilty like Guantanamo to house prisoners who have never been charged and never been given a trial, one would assume that they could build something similar in the good old USA to house convicted murderers. yeah?
this should go without saying, but leaving out the torture, sexual degradation and other revolting acts would be nice too.
ok.
thanks.
So...can we put them in a cell and not let them out ever? Have a small hole for food...have a toilet and a sink to wash...and never open the door (unless the cell needs maintenance, in which case they are brought immediately to another cell)? No TV, no other prisoners, no freedom to roam, no outside time, no exercise equipment? Is that cruel and unusual punishment? Oh, and no suicide watch either. Don't kill them, but certainly don't care if they do it to themselves.
I could easily abandon my support of the death penalty if the risk to others was eliminated through the situation I described above.
I wonder if some of these people get into a car accident that isn't their fault, and then turn their car back on, back up, and ram the other car back, because that is what's just and right?
accident being the key word.......thus, does not apply.
sorry.............forgot this was a "no humour zone". :roll:
no reason to apologize....just a simple attempt, at being consistant. i have a difficult time at this website, when trying to understand humour.
for the only reason being......in one post a person is serious, then immediately they become not serious.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
chad and on the edge
please do not change your views on this subject
i will never understand why they take the side of a murderer
and that's fine
but i won't change my mind
there is nothing that the anti-dp folk can say that would make me think otherwise
i do not need to change their views
i have mine
The answer to your second is: he doesn't. That is the whole point of rights - everyone is entitled to them, by the merit of being human - and no one has the right to take them away, even if they have violated someone else's rights. No one is entitled to make the subjective judgment that someone has "forfeited" their rights. To do so totally undermines the very notion of rights. .
But you do take away a number of rights of those incarcerated - that is the nature of their punishment. Basic human rights are an entitlement, but the person committing the crime knows there will be consequences and by default accepts these, therefore forfeiting any right (other than the basic human rights) that my be abolished by these consequences. Obviously, if the person committing the crime is not of sane mind, that is a different issue.
I could easily abandon my support of the death penalty if the risk to others was eliminated through the situation I described above.
Just to put things in a little bit of context here: I know there was a list of examples of convicted murderers who reoffended a few pages back, that sparked quite a bit of hysteria. But it's important to note the fact that murder has the lowest rates of recidivism of any crime. There have been studies that have shown that over 70% of released thieves have commited further robberies, as compared to just over 1% of released murder convicts.
Again, this supports the case for improving and reforming incarceration procedures, and really, really doesn't support the wholesale execution of murderers on the grounds that everyone is in danger as long as they're alive. That's simply not the case.
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Quite frankly, chadwick, the more you go on about your little vigilante "fantasy in your head" (to use your own rather telling words!), the more I start to realise that the way you think is not so very different from that of the "garbage" you vilify.
For all your many posts, you have added precisely nothing of worth to the debate.
i will never understand why they take the side of a murderer
i'm just gonna go ahead and assume you havent been along for the whole ride. Maybe read up a bit before you jump to conclusions.
I think that quote comes from quite a few pages back...
Don't know why it's popping back up here when it's been responded to so many times that it's obsolete now.
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Quite frankly, chadwick, the more you go on about your little vigilante "fantasy in your head" (to use your own rather telling words!), the more I start to realise that the way you think is not so very different from that of the "garbage" you vilify.
For all your many posts, you have added precisely nothing of worth to the debate.
good morning to you, Sir.
Welcome back. Good to see you've been reading up.
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Quite frankly, chadwick, the more you go on about your little vigilante "fantasy in your head" (to use your own rather telling words!), the more I start to realise that the way you think is not so very different from that of the "garbage" you vilify.
For all your many posts, you have added precisely nothing of worth to the debate.
I can see that from your last post. More barbarity. Nice.
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10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
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I can see that from your last post. More barbarity. Nice.
believe this...
i am a full on gentleman
i love & am kind & gentle & harsh, a bit brash about somethings...
when evil bullshit rises its useless head
it is to be removed one way or another
simple shit
you can ask nicely... evil person please leave
they should be smart and go...
you can be nasty... dear evil monster, you hurt women and children
you are a scumbag
you would be better off without a pumping heart
dear woman beater
i like to fight
wanna fight?
see how simple it all is?
Or simple-minded?
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10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
I could easily abandon my support of the death penalty if the risk to others was eliminated through the situation I described above.
Just to put things in a little bit of context here: I know there was a list of examples of convicted murderers who reoffended a few pages back, that sparked quite a bit of hysteria. But it's important to note the fact that murder has the lowest rates of recidivism of any crime. There have been studies that have shown that over 70% of released thieves have commited further robberies, as compared to just over 1% of released murder convicts.
Again, this supports the case for improving and reforming incarceration procedures, and really, really doesn't support the wholesale execution of murderers on the grounds that everyone is in danger as long as they're alive. That's simply not the case.
Do those numbers show any of the injuries/fatalities caused by murderers while in jail?
Also, I don't like that 1% because it is way more than it should be anyhow.
Just to put things in a little bit of context here: I know there was a list of examples of convicted murderers who reoffended a few pages back, that sparked quite a bit of hysteria. But it's important to note the fact that murder has the lowest rates of recidivism of any crime. There have been studies that have shown that over 70% of released thieves have commited further robberies, as compared to just over 1% of released murder convicts.
Again, this supports the case for improving and reforming incarceration procedures, and really, really doesn't support the wholesale execution of murderers on the grounds that everyone is in danger as long as they're alive. That's simply not the case.
Do those numbers show any of the injuries/fatalities caused by murderers while in jail?
No, it doesn't. I don't know if there are studies like that, though I would also be interested to see them. My hunch would be that they wouldn't vary wildly from that.
Also, I don't like that 1% because it is way more than it should be anyhow.
No, I don't like it either, but as both sides have pointed out, it's a flawed system. But it's hardly justification for killing all killers. Besides, it puts the hysteria that followed the list in a little more rational context.
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11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
i am a full on gentleman
i love & am kind & gentle & harsh, a bit brash about somethings...
when evil bullshit rises its useless head
it is to be removed one way or another
simple shit
you can ask nicely... evil person please leave
they should be smart and go...
you can be nasty... dear evil monster, you hurt women and children
you are a scumbag
you would be better off without a pumping heart
dear woman beater
i like to fight
wanna fight?
see how simple it all is?
Or simple-minded?
if you think that
that's cool
I have stated what I think about the things you say. If you can't be bothered to read them, or don't want to, that's fine, I can't make you.
Most of the time I think you're going to extremes just trying to provoke a reaction - I hope so.
But I think the way you carry on is pretty childish, yes, and does you no favours. I think you do your position far more harm than good.
There it is. My opinion. Take it or leave it. I expect you'll leave it.
93: Slane
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
Assuming that the death penalty was abolished completely in the US, how do yo guarantee the public the most dangerous never get out. It's obvious from another post that dangerous people have been released or escaped. Would you build a super max in a remote area? 24 hour lock down? Then the other question is when does an obvious dangerous person give up his rights.
if the US can establish a maximum security facilty like Guantanamo to house prisoners who have never been charged and never been given a trial, one would assume that they could build something similar in the good old USA to house convicted murderers. yeah?
this should go without saying, but leaving out the torture, sexual degradation and other revolting acts would be nice too.
ok.
thanks.
So...can we put them in a cell and not let them out ever? Have a small hole for food...have a toilet and a sink to wash...and never open the door (unless the cell needs maintenance, in which case they are brought immediately to another cell)? No TV, no other prisoners, no freedom to roam, no outside time, no exercise equipment? Is that cruel and unusual punishment? Oh, and no suicide watch either. Don't kill them, but certainly don't care if they do it to themselves.
I could easily abandon my support of the death penalty if the risk to others was eliminated through the situation I described above.
all of what you have listed in your post has occurred in the united states, and still does to this day. remember the hole in alcatraz? how about you google Tamms, a supermax here in illinois that has been sued by inmates and is being investigated by human rights groups, and tell us how humanely those prisoners were treated. my former roomate worked as a guard there and he has a hundred stories of abuse he has personally witnessed. he was not named in the lawsuit, but may have to testify at any hearings or trial. so since that happens today, you can abandon your support for the dp then?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I have stated what I think about the things you say. If you can't be bothered to read them, or don't want to, that's fine, I can't make you.
Most of the time I think you're going to extremes just trying to provoke a reaction - I hope so.
But I think the way you carry on is pretty childish, yes, and does you no favours. I think you do your position far more harm than good.
There it is. My opinion. Take it or leave it. I expect you'll leave it.
you have an opinion
oddly enough
i also have an opinion
my vote is to not cradle the worst of the worst
the worst of the worst get fried
also,
i am sorry some of my comments are a bit graphic
they are all true horrors that monsters have done
I have learned that my views are often times dismissed as monstrous. I believe that humans are a plague, so if I have little use for most people, try to imagine how I feel about the true bastards in our midst. When I blame our species for the woeful condition and rapid deterioration of our planet, you’ll just have to forgive me for not placing the same emphasis on the importance of human life that some of you so clearly believe. Maybe it’s because I spend my time amongst the animals and have developed a far greater respect for their honesty, directness, and bravery in which they face life, pain, and death. A wolf pack wouldn’t tolerate anti-social behavior from one its own; they wouldn’t make excuses for brother who was once kicked in the head by a moose and since then has been biting family and acting crazy. You will say we are better than wolves, but that is something you will never convince me of, and I have all of human history on my side of the argument.
Have any of you ever killed anything with your own hands that was mortally wounded? Ever seen that last flicker of life go out in something’s eyes? I have and I seem to have a whole different relationship with life and death than most people. Hell, cancer took my father when I was a child and it was the best thing that could have happened to my family. See, he wasn’t a good man, and although I know what demon made him that way, it didn’t change the damage he was doing. Cancer stopped him from doing any more.
So, maybe your beliefs make you compassionate and wise. Maybe. Or, maybe they make you all too human, impractical, and without the will to do what is necessary. Not sure. All I can do is tell where I come from, and it’s a place most of you haven’t been.
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I believe the moment a person knowingly commits a heinous crime, he/she has forfeited the right to freedom, etc. Basic human rights are to be acknowledged, certainly, but this person's sentence is a punishment, not a holiday. How this is implemented is up to the 'authorities' and is possibly a different debate to the morality of state sanctioned murder.
this should go without saying, but leaving out the torture, sexual degradation and other revolting acts would be nice too.
ok.
thanks.
sorry.............forgot this was a "no humour zone". :roll:
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An answer to your first question might be to look to the rest of the world. Over 70% of countries in the world have abolished the death penalty, including all industrialised nations, except the US and Japan, so there is a huge wealth of precedents to be had.
The answer to your second is: he doesn't. That is the whole point of rights - everyone is entitled to them, by the merit of being human - and no one has the right to take them away, even if they have violated someone else's rights. No one is entitled to make the subjective judgment that someone has "forfeited" their rights. To do so totally undermines the very notion of rights. The only point where your rights are tempered is where they interact incompatibly with other people's rights. So you have the right to free expression, but only so much in that in excercising that right you aren't violating someone else's right to freedom from oppression, or discrimination etc. Or in this case, a person has the right to freedom, but only insomuch that his freedom doesn't violate other people's right to freedom from persecution, or their right to life.
By the way, before anyone says it, it is not legitimate to then say a prisoner has a right to life only insofar as he hasn't violated someone else's right to life, as that would be retrospective. Nor on the basis that "he might kill again" because that is purely speculative.
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There are over 310 million peopel in the U.S.
Since 1977 there have been an average of 37 people executed each year (in the US).
thats s pretty small number to worry about. But i wouldnt mind a 24 hr lockdown where they dont ever see the sun again.
in that earlier post by GF, it mostly wasnt the people on death row that were escaping and doing most of those terrible things when released. There's probably no guarnatee that anyone wont EVER get out.. just as much as there's no guarantee that everyone executed is guilty.
I guess an obvious dangerous person gives up his/her rights when they are convicted of their crimes.
So...can we put them in a cell and not let them out ever? Have a small hole for food...have a toilet and a sink to wash...and never open the door (unless the cell needs maintenance, in which case they are brought immediately to another cell)? No TV, no other prisoners, no freedom to roam, no outside time, no exercise equipment? Is that cruel and unusual punishment? Oh, and no suicide watch either. Don't kill them, but certainly don't care if they do it to themselves.
I could easily abandon my support of the death penalty if the risk to others was eliminated through the situation I described above.
for the only reason being......in one post a person is serious, then immediately they become not serious.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
But you do take away a number of rights of those incarcerated - that is the nature of their punishment. Basic human rights are an entitlement, but the person committing the crime knows there will be consequences and by default accepts these, therefore forfeiting any right (other than the basic human rights) that my be abolished by these consequences. Obviously, if the person committing the crime is not of sane mind, that is a different issue.
by region, since 1977, there have been
1015 executions in the South
4 in the Northeast
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/FactSheet.pdf
Again, this supports the case for improving and reforming incarceration procedures, and really, really doesn't support the wholesale execution of murderers on the grounds that everyone is in danger as long as they're alive. That's simply not the case.
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09: Manchester, London
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11: San José
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i'm just gonna go ahead and assume you havent been along for the whole ride. Maybe read up a bit before you jump to conclusions.
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good morning to you, Sir.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I think that quote comes from quite a few pages back...
Don't know why it's popping back up here when it's been responded to so many times that it's obsolete now.
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Welcome back. Good to see you've been reading up.
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"death to scumbags"
"molest a child get a shotgun slug to the chest"
"rape & torture women and children, get a sword through the guts 13 times"
what else?
um...
"cruel, evil bullshit is not to be tolerated"
"child molesters should be hung until death"
anyone else have any other good fun bumper sticker ideas?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I can see that from your last post. More barbarity. Nice.
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
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07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
believe this...
i am a full on gentleman
i love & am kind & gentle & harsh, a bit brash about somethings...
when evil bullshit rises its useless head
it is to be removed one way or another
simple shit
you can ask nicely... evil person please leave
they should be smart and go...
you can be nasty... dear evil monster, you hurt women and children
you are a scumbag
you would be better off without a pumping heart
dear woman beater
i like to fight
wanna fight?
see how simple it all is?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Godfather.
Or simple-minded?
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
Do those numbers show any of the injuries/fatalities caused by murderers while in jail?
Also, I don't like that 1% because it is way more than it should be anyhow.
that's cool
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
No, I don't like it either, but as both sides have pointed out, it's a flawed system. But it's hardly justification for killing all killers. Besides, it puts the hysteria that followed the list in a little more rational context.
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00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
I have stated what I think about the things you say. If you can't be bothered to read them, or don't want to, that's fine, I can't make you.
Most of the time I think you're going to extremes just trying to provoke a reaction - I hope so.
But I think the way you carry on is pretty childish, yes, and does you no favours. I think you do your position far more harm than good.
There it is. My opinion. Take it or leave it. I expect you'll leave it.
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
oddly enough
i also have an opinion
my vote is to not cradle the worst of the worst
the worst of the worst get fried
also,
i am sorry some of my comments are a bit graphic
they are all true horrors that monsters have done
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Have any of you ever killed anything with your own hands that was mortally wounded? Ever seen that last flicker of life go out in something’s eyes? I have and I seem to have a whole different relationship with life and death than most people. Hell, cancer took my father when I was a child and it was the best thing that could have happened to my family. See, he wasn’t a good man, and although I know what demon made him that way, it didn’t change the damage he was doing. Cancer stopped him from doing any more.
So, maybe your beliefs make you compassionate and wise. Maybe. Or, maybe they make you all too human, impractical, and without the will to do what is necessary. Not sure. All I can do is tell where I come from, and it’s a place most of you haven’t been.
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