GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK! POOR FUCKING MURDERERS GOT PUT INTO A NICE COMFY SLEEP AND THEN THEY STOPPED THEIR HEARTBEAT. THEY SHOULD'VE GOTTEN A FUCKING BULLET BEHIND THE LEFT EAR A LONG TIME AGO. PICTURE THESE MEN RAPING YOUR DAUGHTER FOR AN HOUR, SMASHING YOUR DAUGHTERS TEETH OUT AND CRUSHING YOUR DAUGHTERS THROAT BY STEPPING ON IT WITH A BOOT. AND THEN THEY GO AND BRAG ABOUT IT TO PEOPLE THEY KNOW. THESE FUCKING GUYS GOT OFF TOO EASY AND YOU PEOPLE WITH YOUR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS MAKE ME FUCKING SICK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU PEOPLE STAND UP IN FRONT OF THIS YOUNG GIRLS PARENTS AND TELL THEM THE BULLSHIT YOU SPEW ON THIS WEBSIGHT. THEN AGAIN, FOR SOME REASON, I'M GUESSING MOST OF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
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i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
Now normally I would agree and I'm sure he'll have a meek existence in Kingston Pen. But does anyone think that he'll give what he did much thought, I don't. What's the proper punishment for him. I would like to see the criminal code amended to remove the parole option after 25 years and allow judges to hand out life terms with no parole.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I don't give a shit if he feels guilty about it or if he jumps around for joy in the cell for 30 years about what he did. that's irrelevant. he is serving life. he will never get out. justice is served.
i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
Now normally I would agree and I'm sure he'll have a meek existence in Kingston Pen. But does anyone think that he'll give what he did much thought, I don't. What's the proper punishment for him. I would like to see the criminal code amended to remove the parole option after 25 years and allow judges to hand out life terms with no parole.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
polaris_x wrote:
i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
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I don't see the death penalty as any kind of a revenge for the justice system,what it does do is keep dirt bags off our public streets and out of our homes so that they will not kill anyone else.
keeping them in prison for life will not bring back the dead either so what would be the point in that ?
in my opinion if a person is willing to take a life for no reason other than to just enjoy the kill then that person sure as shit better be ready and willing to lay down their own life because society in general will not tolerate the actions of a killer in their own area,there is only one reason for killing that I can think of and thats self defense in fear of your own life or that of your loved ones and if a person crosses that line and kills for no other reason but to rob or just kill for enjoyment then they better know the rules.
I don't give a shit if he feels guilty about it or if he jumps around for joy in the cell for 30 years about what he did. that's irrelevant. he is serving life. he will never get out. justice is served.
i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
Now normally I would agree and I'm sure he'll have a meek existence in Kingston Pen. But does anyone think that he'll give what he did much thought, I don't. What's the proper punishment for him. I would like to see the criminal code amended to remove the parole option after 25 years and allow judges to hand out life terms with no parole.
Now you obviously don't know much about the Canadian Justice System...every inmate is automatically eligible for parole after 25 years, it would seem unlikely that he obtain parole but you can never say never, what I was basically saying was we need to give the judge the option with certain cases at his/her discretion to remove parole eligibility, for one main reason as to not traumatize the families anymore. My comment was also direct toward polaris because we are both Canadians and it was meant as a discussion with recent tragic events.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
polaris_x wrote:
i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
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I don't see the death penalty as any kind of a revenge for the justice system,what it does do is keep dirt bags off our public streets and out of our homes so that they will not kill anyone else.
keeping them in prison for life will not bring back the dead either so what would be the point in that ?
in my opinion if a person is willing to take a life for no reason other than to just enjoy the kill then that person sure as shit better be ready and willing to lay down their own life because society in general will not tolerate the actions of a killer in their own area,there is only one reason for killing that I can think of and thats self defense in fear of your own life or that of your loved ones and if a person crosses that line and kills for no other reason but to rob or just kill for enjoyment then they better know the rules.
Godfather.
rapists who do not murder their victims should be executed
child molesters... executed
simple shit
polaris_x wrote:
i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
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I don't see the death penalty as any kind of a revenge for the justice system,what it does do is keep dirt bags off our public streets and out of our homes so that they will not kill anyone else.
keeping them in prison for life will not bring back the dead either so what would be the point in that ?
in my opinion if a person is willing to take a life for no reason other than to just enjoy the kill then that person sure as shit better be ready and willing to lay down their own life because society in general will not tolerate the actions of a killer in their own area,there is only one reason for killing that I can think of and thats self defense in fear of your own life or that of your loved ones and if a person crosses that line and kills for no other reason but to rob or just kill for enjoyment then they better know the rules.
Godfather.
rapists who do not murder their victims should be executed
child molesters... executed
simple shit
ah, yet another person that thinks by one comment they can pin someone down!
au contrere, mon frere! I am a fellow Canuck. I OBVIOUSLY know plenty about the system. I believe there is always the option, though rare, that he could be designated a dangerous offender after the 25 years is up and not be released. So what you are suggesting is already in place. Does this mean that you "obviously" don't know much about the Canadian justice system? I would never say that.
But I do agree that "life" shouldn't mean 25 years. That ain't life. Getting out when he gets buried is life.
Now you obviously don't know much about the Canadian Justice System...every inmate is automatically eligible for parole after 25 years, it would seem unlikely that he obtain parole but you can never say never, what I was basically saying was we need to give the judge the option with certain cases at his/her discretion to remove parole eligibility, for one main reason as to not traumatize the families anymore. My comment was also direct toward polaris because we are both Canadians and it was meant as a discussion with recent tragic events.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
ah, yet another person that thinks by one comment they can pin someone down!
au contrere, mon frere! I am a fellow Canuck. I OBVIOUSLY know plenty about the system. I believe there is always the option, though rare, that he could be designated a dangerous offender after the 25 years is up and not be released. So what you are suggesting is already in place. Does this mean that you "obviously" don't know much about the Canadian justice system? I would never say that.
But I do agree that "life" shouldn't mean 25 years. That ain't life. Getting out when he gets buried is life.
Now you obviously don't know much about the Canadian Justice System...every inmate is automatically eligible for parole after 25 years, it would seem unlikely that he obtain parole but you can never say never, what I was basically saying was we need to give the judge the option with certain cases at his/her discretion to remove parole eligibility, for one main reason as to not traumatize the families anymore. My comment was also direct toward polaris because we are both Canadians and it was meant as a discussion with recent tragic events.
Yes, but the crown is not going after dangerous offender status. They believe it's unlikely he'll get paroled, the are probably right, but why not amend the criminal code and remove the possibility of parole, he doesn't deserve a hearing in 25 years, yet he automatically gets a parole hearing. I just wonder when some government is going to come along and remove the possibility of parole from these individuals.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
ah, yet another person that thinks by one comment they can pin someone down!
au contrere, mon frere! I am a fellow Canuck. I OBVIOUSLY know plenty about the system. I believe there is always the option, though rare, that he could be designated a dangerous offender after the 25 years is up and not be released. So what you are suggesting is already in place. Does this mean that you "obviously" don't know much about the Canadian justice system? I would never say that.
But I do agree that "life" shouldn't mean 25 years. That ain't life. Getting out when he gets buried is life.
Now you obviously don't know much about the Canadian Justice System...every inmate is automatically eligible for parole after 25 years, it would seem unlikely that he obtain parole but you can never say never, what I was basically saying was we need to give the judge the option with certain cases at his/her discretion to remove parole eligibility, for one main reason as to not traumatize the families anymore. My comment was also direct toward polaris because we are both Canadians and it was meant as a discussion with recent tragic events.
Yes, but the crown is not going after dangerous offender status. They believe it's unlikely he'll get paroled, the are probably right, but why not amend the criminal code and remove the possibility of parole, he doesn't deserve a hearing in 25 years, yet he automatically gets a parole hearing. I just wonder when some government is going to come along and remove the possibility of parole from these individuals.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
au contrere, mon frere! I am a fellow Canuck. I OBVIOUSLY know plenty about the system. I believe there is always the option, though rare, that he could be designated a dangerous offender after the 25 years is up and not be released. So what you are suggesting is already in place. Does this mean that you "obviously" don't know much about the Canadian justice system? I would never say that.
But I do agree that "life" shouldn't mean 25 years. That ain't life. Getting out when he gets buried is life.
Now you obviously don't know much about the Canadian Justice System...every inmate is automatically eligible for parole after 25 years, it would seem unlikely that he obtain parole but you can never say never, what I was basically saying was we need to give the judge the option with certain cases at his/her discretion to remove parole eligibility, for one main reason as to not traumatize the families anymore. My comment was also direct toward polaris because we are both Canadians and it was meant as a discussion with recent tragic events.
Yes, but the crown is not going after dangerous offender status. They believe it's unlikely he'll get paroled, the are probably right, but why not amend the criminal code and remove the possibility of parole, he doesn't deserve a hearing in 25 years, yet he automatically gets a parole hearing. I just wonder when some government is going to come along and remove the possibility of parole from these individuals.
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The crown is not going to apply for it. I think we should let the judge have the option of handing out life without parole in cases like this. you would like to think that the parole board would never grant him parole, but you never know 25 years down the road.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
polaris_x wrote:
i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
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I don't see the death penalty as any kind of a revenge for the justice system,what it does do is keep dirt bags off our public streets and out of our homes so that they will not kill anyone else.
keeping them in prison for life will not bring back the dead either so what would be the point in that ?
in my opinion if a person is willing to take a life for no reason other than to just enjoy the kill then that person sure as shit better be ready and willing to lay down their own life because society in general will not tolerate the actions of a killer in their own area,there is only one reason for killing that I can think of and thats self defense in fear of your own life or that of your loved ones and if a person crosses that line and kills for no other reason but to rob or just kill for enjoyment then they better know the rules.
Godfather.
rapists who do not murder their victims should be executed
child molesters... executed
simple shit
line 'em up.
do you agree?
No, eye for an eye. Lock them up and let them be raped by bubba.
I've heard people on here try to explain that life in prison is harsher punishment then the death penalty.
The other night I watched a show on Discovery about people on death row. They fight for a retrial over and over to try to get their sentence knocked down to a life inprisonment. I guess they are fighting for the harsher penalty.
They can dish it out but they can't take it! Fuckem!!!
Very simple, if you intentionally take a life, your life shall be taken. Be a man and face up to your crime.
No, being macho has nothing to do with it. It's someone realizing they fucked up and accepting their fate.
An eye for an eye, right?
Iran stones people to death and uses the Koran to justify it's barbarity.
America electrocutes people and uses the Bible to justify it's barbarity.
Both backwards countries who base their laws and beliefs on an antiquated, obsolete religion.
Edit: Not that all of America is backwards, just certain aspects, including the death penalty, and the crazy talking-in-tongues religious wackjobs, e.t.c.
No, being macho has nothing to do with it. It's someone realizing they fucked up and accepting their fate.
An eye for an eye, right?
Iran stones people to death and uses the Koran to justify it's barbarity.
America electrocutes people and uses the Bible to justify it's barbarity.
Both backwards countries who base their laws and beliefs on an antiquated, obsolete religion.
Edit: Not that all of America is backwards, just certain aspects, including the death penalty, and the crazy talking-in-tongues religious wackjobs, e.t.c.
Now do you oppose capital punishment on human rights issues or some other issue? I know most who are opposed seem to be based on human rights.
Here in Canada a former Canadian Forces commander of the largest air base in Canada plead guilty over the last week to some very heinous crimes.
It's been reported he's been placed in Kingston Pen in solitary confinement until they can determine what to do with him, even if he is moved within the prison he will be confined to a closet size cell for 23 hours a day.
So whats more of a human rights violation locking someone up with little human contact for 23 hours a day or capital punishment?
Just for the record I'm not overly concerned with what happens to him or whether he's comfortable, he made his bed now he has to lie in it. But I think spending the rest of your life in jail locked in your cell for 23 hours a day is far worse than death. I guess that would depend on the person as well.
Now do you oppose capital punishment on human rights issues or some other issue?
I wouldn't say it's a matter of human rights so much as reason and morality. If a scoiety can claim to be based on reason and morality then the first thing it should do is abolish the death penalty. Killing someone in the name of justice makes the society no better than the murderer whose crime it claims to oppose.
Any society that has the death penalty is a barbaric society as far as I'm concerned.
Now do you oppose capital punishment on human rights issues or some other issue?
I wouldn't say it's a matter of human rights so much as reason and morality. If a scoiety can claim to be based on reason and morality then the first thing it should do is abolish the death penalty. Killing someone in the name of justice makes the society no better than the murderer whose crime it claims to oppose.
Any society that has the death penalty is a barbaric society as far as I'm concerned.
Fair enough, fortunately we do not have capital punishment. We've had some high profile cases over the last 20 years of people who have been wrongly convicted.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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robin is a fucking riot...
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It does. Why?
robin williams makes me squirt drink out of my nose. hes an absolute fucking riot.
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i was curious is all
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
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I'll second that.
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Not even for him
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/answer ... story.html
Now normally I would agree and I'm sure he'll have a meek existence in Kingston Pen. But does anyone think that he'll give what he did much thought, I don't. What's the proper punishment for him. I would like to see the criminal code amended to remove the parole option after 25 years and allow judges to hand out life terms with no parole.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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thanks guys.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
i don't support the death penalty on the grounds that it is inhumane ... that killing someone for a crime does not bring back the people he/she affected but serves only to satisfy a lust for justice that seems only palatable by one's death ...
http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/facts ... yFacts.pdf
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I don't see the death penalty as any kind of a revenge for the justice system,what it does do is keep dirt bags off our public streets and out of our homes so that they will not kill anyone else.
keeping them in prison for life will not bring back the dead either so what would be the point in that ?
in my opinion if a person is willing to take a life for no reason other than to just enjoy the kill then that person sure as shit better be ready and willing to lay down their own life because society in general will not tolerate the actions of a killer in their own area,there is only one reason for killing that I can think of and thats self defense in fear of your own life or that of your loved ones and if a person crosses that line and kills for no other reason but to rob or just kill for enjoyment then they better know the rules.
Godfather.
Now you obviously don't know much about the Canadian Justice System...every inmate is automatically eligible for parole after 25 years, it would seem unlikely that he obtain parole but you can never say never, what I was basically saying was we need to give the judge the option with certain cases at his/her discretion to remove parole eligibility, for one main reason as to not traumatize the families anymore. My comment was also direct toward polaris because we are both Canadians and it was meant as a discussion with recent tragic events.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Though Robin Williams with bare arms is a scary sight
rapists who do not murder their victims should be executed
child molesters... executed
simple shit
line 'em up.
do you agree?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Godfather.
au contrere, mon frere! I am a fellow Canuck. I OBVIOUSLY know plenty about the system. I believe there is always the option, though rare, that he could be designated a dangerous offender after the 25 years is up and not be released. So what you are suggesting is already in place. Does this mean that you "obviously" don't know much about the Canadian justice system? I would never say that.
But I do agree that "life" shouldn't mean 25 years. That ain't life. Getting out when he gets buried is life.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Yes, but the crown is not going after dangerous offender status. They believe it's unlikely he'll get paroled, the are probably right, but why not amend the criminal code and remove the possibility of parole, he doesn't deserve a hearing in 25 years, yet he automatically gets a parole hearing. I just wonder when some government is going to come along and remove the possibility of parole from these individuals.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
either way, I agree with you. life should actually be just that, LIFE.
however, I think if they removed the possibility of parole from the law altogether, they'd run into serious problems.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
The crown is not going to apply for it. I think we should let the judge have the option of handing out life without parole in cases like this. you would like to think that the parole board would never grant him parole, but you never know 25 years down the road.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
No, eye for an eye. Lock them up and let them be raped by bubba.
The other night I watched a show on Discovery about people on death row. They fight for a retrial over and over to try to get their sentence knocked down to a life inprisonment. I guess they are fighting for the harsher penalty.
They can dish it out but they can't take it! Fuckem!!!
Very simple, if you intentionally take a life, your life shall be taken. Be a man and face up to your crime.
bear arms you mean.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
So it's a macho thing then?
:?
No, being macho has nothing to do with it. It's someone realizing they fucked up and accepting their fate.
those are dad's words.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
An eye for an eye, right?
Iran stones people to death and uses the Koran to justify it's barbarity.
America electrocutes people and uses the Bible to justify it's barbarity.
Both backwards countries who base their laws and beliefs on an antiquated, obsolete religion.
Edit: Not that all of America is backwards, just certain aspects, including the death penalty, and the crazy talking-in-tongues religious wackjobs, e.t.c.
:thumbup:
Now do you oppose capital punishment on human rights issues or some other issue? I know most who are opposed seem to be based on human rights.
Here in Canada a former Canadian Forces commander of the largest air base in Canada plead guilty over the last week to some very heinous crimes.
It's been reported he's been placed in Kingston Pen in solitary confinement until they can determine what to do with him, even if he is moved within the prison he will be confined to a closet size cell for 23 hours a day.
So whats more of a human rights violation locking someone up with little human contact for 23 hours a day or capital punishment?
Just for the record I'm not overly concerned with what happens to him or whether he's comfortable, he made his bed now he has to lie in it. But I think spending the rest of your life in jail locked in your cell for 23 hours a day is far worse than death. I guess that would depend on the person as well.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/arti ... ped-murder
http://www.680news.com/news/national/ar ... ton-prison
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I wouldn't say it's a matter of human rights so much as reason and morality. If a scoiety can claim to be based on reason and morality then the first thing it should do is abolish the death penalty. Killing someone in the name of justice makes the society no better than the murderer whose crime it claims to oppose.
Any society that has the death penalty is a barbaric society as far as I'm concerned.
Fair enough, fortunately we do not have capital punishment. We've had some high profile cases over the last 20 years of people who have been wrongly convicted.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon