the death penalty

polaris_x

arq wrote:

Of course death is not the solution to ALL the ails us, but where was this guy's compassion? My dad was killed and the people who did it, is living freely... so i have a biased view on this matter, but that's the point, only those who have lost someone in an horrible way know how does it feels, granted not all those who pass through that approve the death penalty but they normally understand those who agree with it.

i'm not saying everyone who lives has compassion ... clearly that is not the case ...

it's also not to say life is fair or just ... all we need to do is read the news to figure that out ... but again - it comes down to what kind of world you want to live in and your personal value system ... i can read the same story as the OP and feel utter contempt for the murderer but killing this person solves nothing but rather justifies killing of someone is ok ... this belief has led us to honour killings, wars and ethnic cleansing ... if everyone valued life the same way - i would suspect we would have a lot less of that ...

cincybearcat

polaris_x wrote:

this belief has led us to honour killings, wars and ethnic cleansing ... if everyone valued life the same way - i would suspect we would have a lot less of that ...

Oh c'mon, the death penalty had led us to honor ethnic cleansing? Really? Nice.

BinauralJam

I'm against it, mistakes are made in court, wrong people convicted, it does happen sometimes. But mostly it's the COST that i'm against, someone on death row gets a MINIUM amount of appeals, that cost 10's of millions of dollars in court fees and if the accussed actualy has a case, it could cost 2-3 hundred million to kill them, it's just not worth it.

polaris_x

cincybearcat wrote:

Oh c'mon, the death penalty had led us to honor ethnic cleansing? Really? Nice.

you misinterpret ... it is the belief that killing people can solve problems ...

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polaris_x wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Oh c'mon, the death penalty had led us to honor ethnic cleansing? Really? Nice.

you misinterpret ... it is the belief that killing people can solve problems ...

again-

:thumbup:

cincybearcat

polaris_x wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Oh c'mon, the death penalty had led us to honor ethnic cleansing? Really? Nice.

you misinterpret ... it is the belief that killing people can solve problems ...

Killing someone certainly keeps them from killing anyone else. But I see your point.

chadwick

stopping an evil person is so simple it's unbelievable.
that's all i know.

why has no one slain bin laden?
unbelievable.

why hasn't anyone?

i guess he deserves to live :twisted:
hitler & his monsters... why didn't anyone stop it way before it got out of hand?

evil is to be dealt with as soon as possible.

and war???
war is terrible.
oh my god is it horrible.

what do we do?

as a fellow human being
we gotta love man

sometimes love is a bullet between the eyes of a piece of shit evil predator.

call me goofy but that's how i see it.

redrock

chadwick wrote:

why has no one slain bin laden?
unbelievable.

why hasn't anyone?.

'cause they can't get to him!

chadwick

redrock wrote:

chadwick wrote:

why has no one slain bin laden?
unbelievable.

why hasn't anyone?.

'cause they can't get to him!

and if they did slay him
WW MMX would be underway, yes/no?

blackredyellow

Nothingman54 wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

Once again, I think that death penalty is the easy way out for these sick fucks...

Put him him a tiny cell with pictures of the crime scene on the walls of his children he killed... see if that drives him insane. Only let him out to get gang raped and beat by other prisoners.

Why is death the easy way out? Nothing easy about death. I would much rather be in a cell for the rest of my life watching tv and living rent free and get 3 free hot meals a day. As a tax payer I don't like my money going food that feeds these people, I don't like my money going to giving shelter to them. Get where I'm going? Sitting in a cell for the rest of my life sounds better than death penalty. Jail is not always gang rapes and just sitting around looking at the wall. Some of these murderers have tvs, books, paint supplies in their cells.

Money isn't an argument... it's been shown time and time again, that it actually costs the state more to execute someone than to imprison them for life.

And yes, I want their stay in prison to be as painful (physically and mentally) as possible, but sometimes that is not the case. But in the end, at least to me, it's better than killing someone in some sort of state sponsored revenge (because obviously it's not a deterrent to people).

ed243421

KO282453 wrote:

I'm against it, mistakes are made in court, wrong people convicted, it does happen sometimes. But mostly it's the COST that i'm against, someone on death row gets a MINIUM amount of appeals, that cost 10's of millions of dollars in court fees and if the accussed actualy has a case, it could cost 2-3 hundred million to kill them, it's just not worth it.

just like it costs the army 900 dollars for a toilet seat
it's a scam
another money grab
how much does a bullet cost

ed243421

polaris_x wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Oh c'mon, the death penalty had led us to honor ethnic cleansing? Really? Nice.

you misinterpret ... it is the belief that killing people can solve problems ...

and you believe that killing people should get you years in prison, rent free, 3 meals a day, free health club, a library,a chance to get your degree, all the prison sex you could want, a nice walk outside everyday, and hundreds of crazy women writing you everyday with marriage proposals?

polaris_x

ed243421 wrote:

and you believe that killing people should get you years in prison, rent free, 3 meals a day, free health club, a library,a chance to get your degree, all the prison sex you could want, a nice walk outside everyday, and hundreds of crazy women writing you everyday with marriage proposals?

if it's so rosy - why don't you commit a crime and get yourself imprisoned?

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ed243421 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Oh c'mon, the death penalty had led us to honor ethnic cleansing? Really? Nice.

you misinterpret ... it is the belief that killing people can solve problems ...

and you believe that killing people should get you years in prison, rent free, 3 meals a day, free health club, a library,a chance to get your degree, all the prison sex you could want, a nice walk outside everyday, and hundreds of crazy women writing you everyday with marriage proposals?

If you would like to take advantage of those freedoms you mentioned - Go commit a crime.

ed243421

polaris_x wrote:

ed243421 wrote:

and you believe that killing people should get you years in prison, rent free, 3 meals a day, free health club, a library,a chance to get your degree, all the prison sex you could want, a nice walk outside everyday, and hundreds of crazy women writing you everyday with marriage proposals?

if it's so rosy - why don't you commit a crime and get yourself imprisoned?

i thought we were having a serious conversation on the death penalty?

and if you murdered someone, which would you choose?
death?
or prison?

BinauralJam

ed243421 wrote:

KO282453 wrote:

I'm against it, mistakes are made in court, wrong people convicted, it does happen sometimes. But mostly it's the COST that i'm against, someone on death row gets a MINIUM amount of appeals, that cost 10's of millions of dollars in court fees and if the accussed actualy has a case, it could cost 2-3 hundred million to kill them, it's just not worth it.

just like it costs the army 900 dollars for a toilet seat
it's a scam
another money grab
how much does a bullet cost

like 50 Cents!!! hell give me an axe a small room and like 2 minutes, reuse recycle and reduce!!!

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ed243421 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

ed243421 wrote:

and you believe that killing people should get you years in prison, rent free, 3 meals a day, free health club, a library,a chance to get your degree, all the prison sex you could want, a nice walk outside everyday, and hundreds of crazy women writing you everyday with marriage proposals?

if it's so rosy - why don't you commit a crime and get yourself imprisoned?

i thought we were having a serious conversation on the death penalty?

and if you murdered someone, which would you choose?
death?
or prison?

If I murdered someone (personally) I would prefer death.... I can't imagine living a life surrounded by four walls....

ed243421

are you kidding me

i pose the question, death penalty or prison, and some people here suggest that i commit murder so i can go to prison to "enjoy" it.

what is wrong with you

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ed243421 wrote:

are you kidding me

i pose the question, death penalty or prison, and some people here suggest that i commit murder so i can go to prison to "enjoy" it.

what is wrong with you

I said commit a crime if you think the luxuries of prison are so nice..... I never said kill someone....Specifically to your previous post.... had nothing to do with killing someone.... (not sure if this comment was directed at me)

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