I wish someone would actually take a look at this site which shows average concert prices over the last 12 months for just about every band / musician. The costs do not include TM fees, add on's, etc.
Here's a list of some bands mentioned in this thread:
Green Day 44.86
Dave Matthews Band 52.99
Tool 53.75
Pearl Jam 59.34
Depeche Mode 64.29
Metallica 65.01
Neil Young 66.95
U2 93.77
Now, if you take the average of these prices, it comes out to be $62.62. Pearl Jam's average price is $59.34, so aren't their shows moderately priced when compared to similar bands?!?!
No, cause those numbers get totally skewed by the fact that some of those bands charge like $200 for premium seats that the average person prob can't even get their hands on in the first place.
Very few artists have the balls to ask for more than PJ does for 400s at MSG. McCartney and Joel, maybe Simon and Garfunkel come to mind.
An average is an average. I think it takes major cajones to have tiered pricing and ask fans to pay several hundred dollars for premium / floor seats. Would you rather Pearl Jam did this so 400 level seats can only cost $25? They are one of the only bands that charge the same for the best seat in the house and the worst.
No, cause those numbers get totally skewed by the fact that some of those bands charge like $200 for premium seats that the average person prob can't even get their hands on in the first place.
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interesting, maybe the answer really is to charge hundreds for the front row seats, to help out the nosebleed sections.
No they don't dude and you people who say that do really sound silly. Sure they charge less than U2 and Paul McCartney and guys like that. But they charge way more than their contemporaries like, as I said earlier in the thread, Dave Matthews, Radiohead, Metallica, and Green Day. All four of those bands are just as popular as Pearl Jam....and they all charge like $30 less for tix.
your wrong, i just paid 75+ fees for dave matthews at citi field
Another perspective...
Do you not think Pearl Jam deserves it?
I think they do. What are there, 6-7 billion people on the planet? Five guys out of that 7 billion come together and you see them maybe once a year, pay each of those guys Five dollars an hour to make the most beautiful music on the planet. geesh. I guess i'm just a sheep for actually appreciating something that is amazing and not bitching about a 5-10 dollar difference between that and a depeche mode show. It's just silly.
Wonderful, but this has nothing to do with PJ betraying their own stated principles and many of their fans blindly defending them baselessly
well, In my opinion, they are 'betraying' nobody. it is just the simple costs associated with touring in tha manner that is required for them in 2010. It is reeeeeeallly far from blindly defending them too. There have been many excellent points as to why it cost this much in 2010 as opposed to say 2002. It just sems like you are skimming past the reasonable agruments as to why they charge what they do, and focusing just on the fac tthat 15 years ago, PJ fought to keep prices low.
nickleshit is charging 100, i saw motley crue in jan for 100, and iron maiden is 100 in vancouver
oh ya, petty is charging 130 -150 all over the place and there are plenty of tickets left to most of his upcoming concerts. Cause, obviously, that is way fucken more than i ( or most people) would spend for him. thank you for your time.
Would you rather Pearl Jam did this so 400 level seats can only cost $25? They are one of the only bands that charge the same for the best seat in the house and the worst.
i probably would. and if i wanted front row, i'd go fight it out at a GA show.
apparently there are plenty of trust fund babies around here that can afford to fly all over the world to see a show, so im sure they could pay.
maybe worth it, but too rich for me. maybe if they payed my town (unlikely), but that plus travel costs put it out of reach for me. i just cant see paying that much to see a band no matter how great, when there are so many great ones i could see for 30-40 bucks.
Spot on. My friend who goes to a ton of concerts, I think he says he's been to over 750 in his life used to hit 3 PJ shows a tour. This time he's only doing 1. Still thinks they are the best live band going, but they are a budget buster. I buy him his MSG PJ ticket and he'll put 1 Petty, 2 Joseph Arthur shows, and a Jay Farrar on his CC and we are pretty much even
Why do people fault the band cause THEY cant afford it? Maybe it's YOUR fault you have a low paying job. You should go and post on your employers message board talking shit about they don't pay you enough to go to see Pearl Jam. It would make about as much sense as what you people are doing here.
I wish someone would actually take a look at this site which shows average concert prices over the last 12 months for just about every band / musician. The costs do not include TM fees, add on's, etc.
Here's a list of some bands mentioned in this thread:
Green Day 44.86
Dave Matthews Band 52.99
Tool 53.75
Pearl Jam 59.34
Depeche Mode 64.29
Metallica 65.01
Neil Young 66.95
U2 93.77
Now, if you take the average of these prices, it comes out to be $62.62. Pearl Jam's average price is $59.34, so aren't their shows moderately priced when compared to similar bands?!?!
No, cause those numbers get totally skewed by the fact that some of those bands charge like $200 for premium seats that the average person prob can't even get their hands on in the first place.
Very few artists have the balls to ask for more than PJ does for 400s at MSG. McCartney and Joel, maybe Simon and Garfunkel come to mind.
An average is an average. I think it takes major cajones to have tiered pricing and ask fans to pay several hundred dollars for premium / floor seats. Would you rather Pearl Jam did this so 400 level seats can only cost $25? They are one of the only bands that charge the same for the best seat in the house and the worst.
If 10C continues to be inept, yes I'd rather see PJ at the 400 level for $25
Why do people fault the band cause THEY cant afford it? Maybe it's YOUR fault you have a low paying job. You should go and post on your employers message board talking shit about they don't pay you enough to go to see Pearl Jam. It would make about as much sense as what you people are doing here.
im not faulting them for anything, they can do whatever their money hungry hearts desire . just saying im not going for that price. i can get more bang for my buck watching MMJ play here for half the price.
Stranger... then stop going to cheap shows and go see a major headliner to gain proper perspective. Don't expect Pearl Jam to be cheaper than Depeche Mode, Flock of Seagulls and the Muppets.
Your stuck on a senseless loop. You've listened to nothing. They are a quality band and are charging much less than what they could still get. Be thankful that they don't truly fleece people- cause they'd get much more if they demaded it!
"Be thankful that they don't truly fleece people"
So this is the state of "Pearl Jam" in 2010...
30 bills. I've seen plenty of bands of equal or greater stature than PJ...
Would you rather Pearl Jam did this so 400 level seats can only cost $25? They are one of the only bands that charge the same for the best seat in the house and the worst.
i probably would. and if i wanted front row, i'd go fight it out at a GA show.
apparently there are plenty of trust fund babies around here that can afford to fly all over the world to see a show, so im sure they could pay.
Interesting. I absolutely wouldn't. I respect Pearl Jam more for charging the same price for ANY seat in the house.
Yeah no doubt about it the ARGUMENT is i can only afford a $30 ticket so that is what i wan't PJ to charge what plannet are you people from , like Solarworld said get a better paying job ...
Why do people fault the band cause THEY cant afford it? Maybe it's YOUR fault you have a low paying job. You should go and post on your employers message board talking shit about they don't pay you enough to go to see Pearl Jam. It would make about as much sense as what you people are doing here.
your reasoning is sometimes so skewed its unreal. People can afford it but they are bemoaning the rise in concert ticket prices... what is so bad about that that you post nonsensical reasoning? I can afford petrol, i can afford my local tax, my electricity and my gas bills... but whilst i can afford them its my right as a consumer to ask questions if the price of them has doubled in the past 5-10 years or so.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."
Ed and his $9.50 eggs lol
I work on Wall Street and I'd have to go out of my way to find a place where eggs cost that much
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Some of us don't eat at Egg McMuffins, like you do.
Yeah... an omlette or bacon and eggs breakfast will easily hit 10 bucks... unless you are a Wall Street hedge fund crimnal that's a poor tipper, too.
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Eh, they're a little high but really, have you EVER left a show and felt ripped off? About fifteen seconds into the first song and I could care less about what the ticket cost.
Would you rather Pearl Jam did this so 400 level seats can only cost $25? They are one of the only bands that charge the same for the best seat in the house and the worst.
i probably would. and if i wanted front row, i'd go fight it out at a GA show.
apparently there are plenty of trust fund babies around here that can afford to fly all over the world to see a show, so im sure they could pay.
Interesting. I absolutely wouldn't. I respect Pearl Jam more for charging the same price for ANY seat in the house.
i dont fault them for doing it that way, but maybe for the large venue shows it makes more sense to charge more, if that helps people see them. assuming they really have to charge so much.
it looks good that the front row people only pay 80 bucks for their seat, but looks equally crappy that the guy in the nosebleeds has to pay about the same. if they are just spreading the cost of tickets around instead of trying to keep them low, then that just sucks!
Eh, they're a little high but really, have you EVER left a show and felt ripped off? About fifteen seconds into the first song and I could care less about what the ticket cost.
so you do care then.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Why do people fault the band cause THEY cant afford it? Maybe it's YOUR fault you have a low paying job. You should go and post on your employers message board talking shit about they don't pay you enough to go to see Pearl Jam. It would make about as much sense as what you people are doing here.
your reasoning is sometimes so skewed its unreal. People can afford it but they are bemoaning the rise in concert ticket prices... what is so bad about that that you post nonsensical reasoning? I can afford petrol, i can afford my local tax, my electricity and my gas bills... but whilst i can afford them its my right as a consumer to ask questions if the price of them has doubled in the past 5-10 years or so.
OK Mr. Logic... prices for everyone have gone up everywhere, that includes the cost of touring. Therefore shit costs more including for the Pearl Jam touring machine. You all want to pin it on the band like it's their fault they are choosing to not operate at a loss and make a profit. Cost goes up for them means cost goes up for us...
Totally skewed logic there... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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I wanna get out the world's smallest violin. Who the hell says anyone has to pay it? Move on if you are unhappy.
this isnt how human beings work. im sick of this kneejerk response from the positivity nazis.
when you have a problem, first you SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT, then, if nothing happens, THEN you move on.
you dont just quit the moment something goes wrong. you SAY SOMETHING.
shove your tiny violin up your ass.
The only thing that has gone wrong here is people failing to understand the simple business practice of passing on the increasing cost of operation to your customers.
I wanna get out the world's smallest violin. Who the hell says anyone has to pay it? Move on if you are unhappy.
this isnt how human beings work. im sick of this kneejerk response from the positivity nazis.
when you have a problem, first you SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT, then, if nothing happens, THEN you move on.
you dont just quit the moment something goes wrong. you SAY SOMETHING.
shove your tiny violin up your ass.
The only thing that has gone wrong here is people failing to understand the simple business practice of passing on the increasing cost of operation to your customers.
you're crazy. i dont know why you keep bringing up this insane "incresed cost of doing business" crap. yeah, they've increased, no they havent increased that much. do you follow any other bands? it simply doesnt cost that much to put on a show as basic as PJ's. they charge because they can. not saying thats wrong but please stop pretending they are somehow forced into it.
The price is a bit high. But honestly I can't say I was more happy to hand over that money. I've always said that as long as ticket prices are under $115 I'm gonna buy them.
Why do people fault the band cause THEY cant afford it? Maybe it's YOUR fault you have a low paying job. You should go and post on your employers message board talking shit about they don't pay you enough to go to see Pearl Jam. It would make about as much sense as what you people are doing here.
your reasoning is sometimes so skewed its unreal. People can afford it but they are bemoaning the rise in concert ticket prices... what is so bad about that that you post nonsensical reasoning? I can afford petrol, i can afford my local tax, my electricity and my gas bills... but whilst i can afford them its my right as a consumer to ask questions if the price of them has doubled in the past 5-10 years or so.
OK Mr. Logic... prices for everyone has gone up everywhere, that includes the cost of touring. Therefore shit costs more including for the Pearl Jam touring machine. You all want to pin it on the band like it's their fault they are choosing to not operate at a loss and make a profit. Cost goes up for them means cost goes up for us...
Totally skewed logic there... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
100% correct. Costs of everything have gone up and I am one of those people who moan about it, I question it, i want to know why? what i don't do is receive a credit card bill which states my interest has doubled and then shrug to myself and say "well the CEO of that company might need a bit more income this year" and thats that. My football season ticket has only went up each year by inflatation... yet they run the same operation year in year out... why hasn't the PJ ticket only went up by inflatation? it hasnt.. it's went up some 40-50% in the last 5-7 years... thats a huge fucking jump... gas, wages, bread, booms hair gels have not risen in costs that much... so why are we hit with a 40-50% hike in prices?
If my daughters swimming lessons went up 100% in cost over the last 3 years I'd write to the swimming facility and ask why... Your flawed, and many others in here, logic is that you say to people.. "don't go then" or "don't buy them".... but i want to, i can afford it and i love the band and their music... its fucking amazing... but that doesnt mean that me and others like me cannot ask pertinent questions about why the cost of a fucking ticket has went up so much over the years.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I also believe it is more expensive to run a carbon neutral tour.
oh forget all about that shit. they blew that when they dragged all their crap to Minnesota to play 3 songs for a paycheck for Target. carbon neutral my ass.
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An average is an average. I think it takes major cajones to have tiered pricing and ask fans to pay several hundred dollars for premium / floor seats. Would you rather Pearl Jam did this so 400 level seats can only cost $25? They are one of the only bands that charge the same for the best seat in the house and the worst.
your wrong, i just paid 75+ fees for dave matthews at citi field
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well, In my opinion, they are 'betraying' nobody. it is just the simple costs associated with touring in tha manner that is required for them in 2010. It is reeeeeeallly far from blindly defending them too. There have been many excellent points as to why it cost this much in 2010 as opposed to say 2002. It just sems like you are skimming past the reasonable agruments as to why they charge what they do, and focusing just on the fac tthat 15 years ago, PJ fought to keep prices low.
oh ya, petty is charging 130 -150 all over the place and there are plenty of tickets left to most of his upcoming concerts. Cause, obviously, that is way fucken more than i ( or most people) would spend for him. thank you for your time.
apparently there are plenty of trust fund babies around here that can afford to fly all over the world to see a show, so im sure they could pay.
Spot on. My friend who goes to a ton of concerts, I think he says he's been to over 750 in his life used to hit 3 PJ shows a tour. This time he's only doing 1. Still thinks they are the best live band going, but they are a budget buster. I buy him his MSG PJ ticket and he'll put 1 Petty, 2 Joseph Arthur shows, and a Jay Farrar on his CC and we are pretty much even
If 10C continues to be inept, yes I'd rather see PJ at the 400 level for $25
"Be thankful that they don't truly fleece people"
So this is the state of "Pearl Jam" in 2010...
30 bills. I've seen plenty of bands of equal or greater stature than PJ...
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
I wanna get out the world's smallest violin. Who the hell says anyone has to pay it? Move on if you are unhappy.
For kc and stl I paid 150 bucks for a pair of tickets (let's not forget that includes tm service charges)
The same price I paid the last 3 or four tours
By my math that's 75.00
Interesting. I absolutely wouldn't. I respect Pearl Jam more for charging the same price for ANY seat in the house.
your reasoning is sometimes so skewed its unreal. People can afford it but they are bemoaning the rise in concert ticket prices... what is so bad about that that you post nonsensical reasoning? I can afford petrol, i can afford my local tax, my electricity and my gas bills... but whilst i can afford them its my right as a consumer to ask questions if the price of them has doubled in the past 5-10 years or so.
I'm the complete opposite on this. I for one can't believe they actually do this.
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Some of us don't eat at Egg McMuffins, like you do.
Yeah... an omlette or bacon and eggs breakfast will easily hit 10 bucks... unless you are a Wall Street hedge fund crimnal that's a poor tipper, too.
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it looks good that the front row people only pay 80 bucks for their seat, but looks equally crappy that the guy in the nosebleeds has to pay about the same. if they are just spreading the cost of tickets around instead of trying to keep them low, then that just sucks!
so you do care then.
OK Mr. Logic... prices for everyone have gone up everywhere, that includes the cost of touring. Therefore shit costs more including for the Pearl Jam touring machine. You all want to pin it on the band like it's their fault they are choosing to not operate at a loss and make a profit. Cost goes up for them means cost goes up for us...
Totally skewed logic there... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
when you have a problem, first you SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT, then, if nothing happens, THEN you move on.
you dont just quit the moment something goes wrong. you MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO FIX IT.
shove your tiny violin up your ass.
The only thing that has gone wrong here is people failing to understand the simple business practice of passing on the increasing cost of operation to your customers.
you're crazy. i dont know why you keep bringing up this insane "incresed cost of doing business" crap. yeah, they've increased, no they havent increased that much. do you follow any other bands? it simply doesnt cost that much to put on a show as basic as PJ's. they charge because they can. not saying thats wrong but please stop pretending they are somehow forced into it.
100% correct. Costs of everything have gone up and I am one of those people who moan about it, I question it, i want to know why? what i don't do is receive a credit card bill which states my interest has doubled and then shrug to myself and say "well the CEO of that company might need a bit more income this year" and thats that. My football season ticket has only went up each year by inflatation... yet they run the same operation year in year out... why hasn't the PJ ticket only went up by inflatation? it hasnt.. it's went up some 40-50% in the last 5-7 years... thats a huge fucking jump... gas, wages, bread, booms hair gels have not risen in costs that much... so why are we hit with a 40-50% hike in prices?
If my daughters swimming lessons went up 100% in cost over the last 3 years I'd write to the swimming facility and ask why... Your flawed, and many others in here, logic is that you say to people.. "don't go then" or "don't buy them".... but i want to, i can afford it and i love the band and their music... its fucking amazing... but that doesnt mean that me and others like me cannot ask pertinent questions about why the cost of a fucking ticket has went up so much over the years.
Radiohead I can back you up on, saw them in 08 and it was 56 bucks
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