God... Christ... The Bible

Gern Blansten

Godfather. wrote:

Gern Blansten wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

questions...
I have been living with faith for a long time now,I regulary speak with God(no I don't sit with him over coffee)
although he is with me every day and he has worked some great miricals in my life.
I am by no means a perefect christan but I try to be the best I can...and it aint eassy believe me !

accepting Christ into your heart dose not magicly answer all the questions you all are asking
"when end of days comes" is not having Christ in your heart a gamble you would want to take ?
I don't know who will be accepted into heaven and who will not but I do know having the peaceful
feeling of Christ in my heart makes looking at the world a little ez'er.

there are so many queations about God I would like to have the answers to,most times I know in my
heart what is good and what is bad right/wrong, Christ will speak through your Heart if you will let him
then your answer or actions are up to you,doing the right thing aint so bad..sometimes not so ez but
in the end you will probably feel better about your self.

I often say to people "never underestamate the power of prayer"

Godfather.

your beliefs appear to be guided by fear....that's a copout

you sound young, enjoy my friend.

Godfather.

I'm 41 and I don't believe in Santa Claus either

Godfather.

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

"That line of thinking in my opinion, is the work of the devil, not god. Then again, I don't believe either of them exist."...I didn't say that.

yes I do, and when Christ arrives you will know.

believe as you wish my friend, I'm not judging you at all and I apologize if I have offended you.
life is a cool journey for sure,so much to learn and we can only do our best.

Godfather

you didn't offend me. it just bothers me when some christians get all high and mighty about "you'll see" like you know something the rest of us don't. I just wish people on either side could at the very least admit that they don't know for sure. To say you do either way is ridiculous. No god=my opinion. definitely god=your opinion. and that's that.

in my heart I know,just as you once did.
it's all good,I wish good thing for all cuz life is a gift.

Godfather.

Godfather.

what no santa claus !!!!!!! and all this time
as I said, enjoy my friend, seems like last week I was 41 also..time just flys.

Godfather.

TriumphantAngel

when i was younger it was simple to take the safe path...

If you believe in god and he exists, you get to go to heaven.
If you believe in god and he doesn’t exist, nothing happens.
If you don’t believe in god and he exists, you go to hell.
If you don’t believe in god and he doesn’t exist, nothing happens.

now it's even simpler.

i know i was born and i know that i'll die. the in between is mine.

CJMST3K

No one seems to want to answer my easy, logical question. This does not bode well for ye of faith.

EddieLedBetter wrote:

On the other hand Hell is clearly described. Eternal torment, nashing of teeth...

CJMST3K wrote:

What happens if you nash your teeth too hard in hell? Will they break? Could you chip a tooth in hell?

If you're a kid in hell, and you chip your teeth from all the nashing, will your adult teeth push the old ones out eventually, or are you stuck with a chipped bicuspid for eternity?

EddieLedBetter wrote:

I'm doubting the teeth spoken of will be yours bra

CJMST3K wrote:

I know man. I just want to have a conversation which follows the logic of what you're describing.

If teeth are nashing, any dentist would tell you that nerve damage will eventually happen, and probably with a number of people, their teeth will get chipped or broken. If kids in hell who have their kid-teeth damaged, will their adult teeth eventually replace the broken adolescent teeth?

Gern Blansten

maybe hell is being surrounded by people talking about Jesus....that would be eternal torment to me

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Gern Blansten wrote:

maybe hell is being surrounded by people talking about Jesus....that would be eternal torment to me

Heatherj43

Gern Blansten wrote:

maybe hell is being surrounded by people talking about Jesus....that would be eternal torment to me

Me too! I think everybody would want to spend their "eternity" in different ways. What's heaven to one, would be hell to another.

Godfather.

Godfather.

EddieLedBetter

If you really want logical evidence for gods existence its out there you just have to seach for it with an open mind. Evidence so overwhelming you'll find that it takes more faith not to believe in god.

primussucks

I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.

People need to look at our planet and realise how perfect and beautiful and complicated it is. Once you do that then how can you not see that our planet was put together by design. Our planet is the ultimate evidence of God's existence!!! To not see and comprehend that is naive and ignorant. Way too many people take everything for granted!

CJMST3K

primussucks wrote:

I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.

I'd be curious the name of that particular scientist.

And since we're talking about odds, there are millions-of-billions of planets in the universe (estimated at 3 planets per star, on average). Scientists say that there is practically no chance that there is not intelligent life on other planets. So, when the intelligent life on other planets die, do they go to heaven? Or hell? Are they believers in Christianity? If not, are they punished?

primussucks

CJMST3K wrote:

primussucks wrote:

I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.

I'd be curious the name of that particular scientist.

And since we're talking about odds, there are millions-of-billions of planets in the universe (estimated at 3 planets per star, on average). Scientists say that there is practically no chance that there is not intelligent life on other planets. So, when the intelligent life on other planets die, do they go to heaven? Or hell? Are they believers in Christianity? If not, are they punished?

None of this is proven fact! Only theories. Also, I said nothing about Christianity or heaven & hell. Only that there must be a God.

CJMST3K

primussucks wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

primussucks wrote:

I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.

I'd be curious the name of that particular scientist.

And since we're talking about odds, there are millions-of-billions of planets in the universe (estimated at 3 planets per star, on average). Scientists say that there is practically no chance that there is not intelligent life on other planets. So, when the intelligent life on other planets die, do they go to heaven? Or hell? Are they believers in Christianity? If not, are they punished?

None of this is proven fact! Only theories. Also, I said nothing about Christianity or heaven & hell. Only that there must be a God.

These are the same people who believe in the theory of relativity. Do you believe in that? (looking for a yes or no).

EddieLedBetter

The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?

primussucks

CJMST3K
I'm arguing the fact of a God's existence not Einsteins existence! Also CJMST3K you completely ignored my second paragraph which has the most important points.
Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.

primussucks

EddieLedBetter wrote:

The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?

This is why they refer to it as "supernatural forces". They won't allow themselves to say"God".

EddieLedBetter

primussucks wrote:

These are the same people who believe in the theory of relativity. Do you believe in that? (looking for a yes or no).

I'm arguing the fact of a God's existence not Einsteins existence! Also you completely ignored my second paragraph which has the most important points.
Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.[/quote]


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.". -Einstein

primussucks

EddieLedBetter wrote:

primussucks wrote:

These are the same people who believe in the theory of relativity. Do you believe in that? (looking for a yes or no).

I'm arguing the fact of a God's existence not Einsteins existence! Also you completely ignored my second paragraph which has the most important points.
Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.

Sorry EddieLedBetter that wasn't my quote that was CJMST3K. I messed things up I was responding to him not you. I did some editing to try and clear things up. I'm on your side of this argument. Read all my posts on this page.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

EddieLedBetter wrote:

The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?

well, it would seem you are ignorant. do you even know what agnostic means? it's the definition of open-mindedness. it's the acknowledgement of knowing that we posess neither the ability to say that god exists or does not exist.

YOU are the one with the closed mind.