3) It is entirely unreasonable for anyone to expect 10C to answer your e-mail personally with information that has not been released publicly. What do you think, they just sit there with the info in hand and wait for someone to ask after it? Come on. The response was a little blunt, to be sure, but if you had to answer god knows how many e-mails about how people haven't renewed lapsed accounts, and why aren't PJ playing in their backyard, and whatever else, you'd be annoyed too.
Geez. You'd think the people working the 10C would be doing it as a labor of love more than anything else. 10C or not its a basic issue of customer service. They're there to sell it to you, and you're there to buy it. They've had going on 20 years of time to learn how act like a professional business. The whole mom and pop store image is old with all the traffic. Maybe the guy who wrote the e-mail was having a bad day or whatever, but shitty service is shitty service no matter who they work for.
Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
I hate that how when a band announces a tour, the tickets go on sale and you don't get to know until the time you purchase tickets. And if you don't have enough money, then tough luck.
Last year when guns n roses went on sale (shit concert) tickets were $170 which I found out at the last minute. I was planning to get 3 tickets. With bookings on top, I fell 10 cents shorty of 3 tickets. If I had know before, I would of accounted for it.
In hind sight, the person who missed out, it was a blessing in disguise
Sydney 11/02/2003
Sydney 14/02/2003
Sydney 07/11/2006
Sydney 18/11/2006
Sydney 22/11/2009
EV Sydney 18/03/2011
EV Sydney 19/03/2011
EV Sydney 20/03/2011
Melbourne 24/01/2014
Sydney 26/01/2014
EV Sydney 13/02/2014
They gave a BALLPARK answer,
and they said "THANKS"
WTF did you want?
A blowjob, and a signed estimate order?
Average ticket prices for today's ticket market? To me that is a very smart ass answer. For one thing its vague, the other problem is it gives off a kind of don't bother us tone. The money isn't the issue at all. It just lacks any professionalism. Details aren't available at this time would have been a better option.
Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
The Bush rebate checks should cover at least a couple concerts for our down and out members. Thats money you wouldnt have had so why not blow it on PJ shows?
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
You have got to be kidding.
Ths mini tour was obviously just finalized, based on the delay from Wed to Thur for the announcement, they had issues they were still working out.
The fan club sales have to go before regular on sales. They have to do the 10club sales next week to accomplish this.
When Ticketmaster announces the sale of tix for a show, how much time do you have before the sale?
Its usually 2-4 days...most shows get announced mid week and tix go on sale for a vast majority on Saturdays.
4 days is plenty to decide on a local show, for most it is a 30 second decision. The only issue might be for travellers...but the decision to go can be made and that leaves 2-3 months to work out travel arrangements.
how about giving us a straight official answer about whether or not there will be more shows later in the year. "all that have been planned at this time" is a bullshit answer. they know if more shows are in the works. planning for concerts of this size are planned well in advance. maybe things arent finalized, but even a vague "we are planning to announce additional dates in the upcoming weeks" would be something.
Average ticket prices for today's ticket market? To me that is a very smart ass answer. For one thing its vague, the other problem is it gives off a kind of don't bother us tone. The money isn't the issue at all. It just lacks any professionalism. Details aren't available at this time would have been a better option.
a tone? i think you put that tone there yourself. yea its short, but it answered the question. move on and eat some fucking candy, it's easter.
Average ticket prices for today's ticket market? To me that is a very smart ass answer. For one thing its vague, the other problem is it gives off a kind of don't bother us tone. The money isn't the issue at all. It just lacks any professionalism. Details aren't available at this time would have been a better option.
Agreed.
& As far as all those saying, "If you can't afford it, you shouldn't be going." I think for more people it's the point more then the actual 20 bucks. But, if 20 bucks is the issue for some people, than that doesn't mean they shouldn't be going, it means they love the band that much that they wanna know how many pennies to scrape together. I remember a time When PJ didn't want "average prices for this market" for their fans. But obviously those days are long gone. Personally, I'm okay with paying the 80 bucks or whatever a ticket, well, cuz they are one of 2 bands that I love seeing more than anything, but I think it's
a bit much...not for seeing the band itself, but for everything they used to stand for.
Well I don't know what it's like in the US, but I can tell you the price of living here has more than doubled in the last 8 years.....prolly more like 3-4 times dearer. Fuel, for one, has more than tripled and I would say the cost of fuel would be a major expense on a tour.
Tix for us in '06 were about $115 (each ticket) and I'd expect them to be more than that next time we're LUCKY enough to have PJ tour down here.
We'll all be so GRATEFUL for a PJ tour!!!!!!! Send them down here!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if bands will continue to charge stupid prices now that our $ is up at 0.94USD
In theory it should be more or less USA price with a travel surcharge on top....
But yeah quit whingeing. If I want to see PJ this year it will cost $3500
I'm almost crazy enough to do it
In theory....
"I hope they feed you in jail" - Ed V to a stage intruder 18/02/2003 Melbourne.
High Above
i'll break the law
if it's illegal to be in love
leave the hatred on the cross
how about giving us a straight official answer about whether or not there will be more shows later in the year. "all that have been planned at this time" is a bullshit answer. they know if more shows are in the works. planning for concerts of this size are planned well in advance. maybe things arent finalized, but even a vague "we are planning to announce additional dates in the upcoming weeks" would be something.
they deserve to come out of this with a few bucks.
I have no problem with their ticket prices for this tour, because contrary to what a lot are complaining about on here, their tix are still below average for a band of their stature, but don't act like they're destitute and have never made anything off a tour. they've got many of those "few bucks" saved up over the years. millions of em im sure.
2003 Mansfield III 2004 Boston I 2006 Boston I 2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I 2010 Hartford 2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford 2016 Bonnaroo, Boston I, Boston II 2018 Boston I, Boston II 2021 Sea.Hear.Now 2022 Camden 2024 Boston I, Boston II
The ticket cost question is valid. I think it is ridiculous how some blindly stick up for this band.
Detroit ticket in 1998 $25.00
Detroit ticket in 2000 $28.00
Detroit ticket in 2003 $48.50
Detroit ticket in 2006 $58.50
Gas in 1998 $1.22
Gas in 2000 $1.52
Gas in 2003 $1.75
Gas in 2006 $3.04
Using this data in SPSS I got a .890 correlation between the gas prices and tickets. Which is quite high.
What other factores seem to be involved in prices such as mean ticket prices industry wide? Any others? If we get enough factors we could run a regression.
I have no problem with their ticket prices for this tour, because contrary to what a lot are complaining about on here, their tix are still below average for a band of their stature, but don't act like they're destitute and have never made anything off a tour. they've got many of those "few bucks" saved up over the years. millions of em im sure.
ummmm....hello....you DON'T KNOW what the ticket prices are for this tour...that is the point of the thread. your post makes no sense.
I miss the days when they announced the whole tour and had the prices next to it. Remember that? That list that you could stare at for days and pick your shows according to price.
Prices were about the fans, now it seems they're trying to compare prices with the other artist out there. I just hope they don't look at Bon Jovi for advice. I saw $129.50 before fees for floor and part of lower level in Denver. What are bands really fucking thinking? It makes me angry to think that scalpers sell them for even more. AH!
I miss the days when they announced the whole tour and had the prices next to it. Remember that? That list that you could stare at for days and pick your shows according to price.
Prices were about the fans, now it seems they're trying to compare prices with the other artist out there. I just hope they don't look at Bon Jovi for advice. I saw $129.50 before fees for floor and part of lower level in Denver. What are bands really fucking thinking? It makes me angry to think that scalpers sell them for even more. AH!
those were the days...
that and when they actually came and the midwest and south were part of a tour
ummmm....hello....you DON'T KNOW what the ticket prices are for this tour...that is the point of the thread. your post makes no sense.
you're right. i wasn't addressing this thread though. i was addressing an individual point that he made, so your post makes no sense.
2003 Mansfield III 2004 Boston I 2006 Boston I 2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I 2010 Hartford 2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford 2016 Bonnaroo, Boston I, Boston II 2018 Boston I, Boston II 2021 Sea.Hear.Now 2022 Camden 2024 Boston I, Boston II
Yes, people...you're finally realizing that this band and their fan club are shitting on you! Express your displeasure by keeping your wallet in your pocket! Rows of empty seats up front will speak volumes...especially in New York, Hartford and Mansfield!
I have no problem with their ticket prices for this tour, because contrary to what a lot are complaining about on here, their tix are still below average for a band of their stature, but don't act like they're destitute and have never made anything off a tour. they've got many of those "few bucks" saved up over the years. millions of em im sure.
ever seen an episode of "behind the music"?
they pay their crew, expenses, lawyers, management and then split the rest five ways. I don't know what their personal finanial picture is and neither do you.
They're almost 50 years old. I think everyone gets to a certain age and thinks, "I worked all those years, I should have more than that"!
The (shitty) Eagles broke the ticket price barrier with 75.00 tix in 1994.
pearl jam is hardly making a money grab 14 years later equaling that.
Yes, people...you're finally realizing that this band and their fan club are shitting on you! Express your displeasure by keeping your wallet in your pocket! Rows of empty seats up front will speak volumes...especially in New York, Hartford and Mansfield!
It's time to make a stand! Boy-cott! Boy-cott!
hmmmm, you have to wonder if this guy is up to something.
Comments
Geez. You'd think the people working the 10C would be doing it as a labor of love more than anything else. 10C or not its a basic issue of customer service. They're there to sell it to you, and you're there to buy it. They've had going on 20 years of time to learn how act like a professional business. The whole mom and pop store image is old with all the traffic. Maybe the guy who wrote the e-mail was having a bad day or whatever, but shitty service is shitty service no matter who they work for.
and they said "THANKS"
WTF did you want?
A blowjob, and a signed estimate order?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Last year when guns n roses went on sale (shit concert) tickets were $170 which I found out at the last minute. I was planning to get 3 tickets. With bookings on top, I fell 10 cents shorty of 3 tickets. If I had know before, I would of accounted for it.
In hind sight, the person who missed out, it was a blessing in disguise
Sydney 14/02/2003
Sydney 07/11/2006
Sydney 18/11/2006
Sydney 22/11/2009
EV Sydney 18/03/2011
EV Sydney 19/03/2011
EV Sydney 20/03/2011
Melbourne 24/01/2014
Sydney 26/01/2014
EV Sydney 13/02/2014
Average ticket prices for today's ticket market? To me that is a very smart ass answer. For one thing its vague, the other problem is it gives off a kind of don't bother us tone. The money isn't the issue at all. It just lacks any professionalism. Details aren't available at this time would have been a better option.
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
how about giving us a straight official answer about whether or not there will be more shows later in the year. "all that have been planned at this time" is a bullshit answer. they know if more shows are in the works. planning for concerts of this size are planned well in advance. maybe things arent finalized, but even a vague "we are planning to announce additional dates in the upcoming weeks" would be something.
a tone? i think you put that tone there yourself. yea its short, but it answered the question. move on and eat some fucking candy, it's easter.
Agreed.
& As far as all those saying, "If you can't afford it, you shouldn't be going." I think for more people it's the point more then the actual 20 bucks. But, if 20 bucks is the issue for some people, than that doesn't mean they shouldn't be going, it means they love the band that much that they wanna know how many pennies to scrape together. I remember a time When PJ didn't want "average prices for this market" for their fans. But obviously those days are long gone. Personally, I'm okay with paying the 80 bucks or whatever a ticket, well, cuz they are one of 2 bands that I love seeing more than anything, but I think it's
a bit much...not for seeing the band itself, but for everything they used to stand for.
I wonder if bands will continue to charge stupid prices now that our $ is up at 0.94USD
In theory it should be more or less USA price with a travel surcharge on top....
But yeah quit whingeing. If I want to see PJ this year it will cost $3500
I'm almost crazy enough to do it
In theory....
High Above
i'll break the law
if it's illegal to be in love
leave the hatred on the cross
Seems straight enough. Nothing planned.
10/30/09.10/31/09.5/17/10.9/7/11
EV:boston 1+2.albnay 1.boston 2010
Can we at least stop all this talk like they've sold out their ethics?
you have kids and you realize you don't have anyhting for retirement.
they deserve to come out of this with a few bucks.
They're not young and this is not the 90s
get over it, move on.
I have no problem with their ticket prices for this tour, because contrary to what a lot are complaining about on here, their tix are still below average for a band of their stature, but don't act like they're destitute and have never made anything off a tour. they've got many of those "few bucks" saved up over the years. millions of em im sure.
2004 Boston I
2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Boston I, Boston II
2018 Boston I, Boston II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 Boston I, Boston II
What other factores seem to be involved in prices such as mean ticket prices industry wide? Any others? If we get enough factors we could run a regression.
real nice
and anyone who actually defends this nonsense with blind love for the band, well, eat a dick
ummmm....hello....you DON'T KNOW what the ticket prices are for this tour...that is the point of the thread. your post makes no sense.
i just wish it were possible for some people to separate the ten club from the band in their minds
Prices were about the fans, now it seems they're trying to compare prices with the other artist out there. I just hope they don't look at Bon Jovi for advice. I saw $129.50 before fees for floor and part of lower level in Denver. What are bands really fucking thinking? It makes me angry to think that scalpers sell them for even more. AH!
those were the days...
that and when they actually came and the midwest and south were part of a tour
you're right. i wasn't addressing this thread though. i was addressing an individual point that he made, so your post makes no sense.
2004 Boston I
2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Boston I, Boston II
2018 Boston I, Boston II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 Boston I, Boston II
It's time to make a stand! Boy-cott! Boy-cott!
Hey, just curious which threads you got those from. Thanks.
ever seen an episode of "behind the music"?
they pay their crew, expenses, lawyers, management and then split the rest five ways. I don't know what their personal finanial picture is and neither do you.
They're almost 50 years old. I think everyone gets to a certain age and thinks, "I worked all those years, I should have more than that"!
The (shitty) Eagles broke the ticket price barrier with 75.00 tix in 1994.
pearl jam is hardly making a money grab 14 years later equaling that.
hmmmm, you have to wonder if this guy is up to something.
Noooooooooooo. Can't a man be a consumer advocate without having his motives questioned?