How come there are tickets still for sale??
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over an hour later, and camden tix are STILL available! i am amazed! makes me more and more hopeful for the shows i plan/want to attend.Stay with me...
Let's just breathe...
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mensane wrote:i am flying in from seattle for these shows. i suspect my 187*** will get me closer in west palm beach than it would in new york. it still amazes me that people look at a list of cities and choose to go where the most 10club members (and therefore worst seats) are.
i hear that!!! i'll see ya in florida! remember where our # got us in missoula? smaller markets that's the way to go.
as an fyi...shows sold through tm allow 10% of all tickets to go to fanclub seats.... soooo... if it is as small as 10,000 seats you still have 1,000 fan club tix... the venues pj are playing are larger than this which would indicate 1000+ 10c tix per show.
and if i recall correctly for 2003 the msg shows had several thousand 10c tix....they accomodated everyone that wanted to purchase them...
anyone else remember the index cards and money orders? geez. i appreciate online purchasing that's for sure!0 -
dharma69 wrote:Exhibit A of the clueless posts catalogue.
You are aware that there's a recession going on, right? Whether or not the people in Washington suck it up, grab their balls and actually say the "R" word, make no mistake that there's not quite the same amount of money in most peoples' bank accounts for discretionary spending. I guess food and gas trump Stoney's pony.
And PJ's been more than well compensated for their work just fine.
The recession argument holds no water with me (and yes I believe there is a recession right now). If the recession is to blame, than ticket prices would be of no concern. Those who are in dire straits would not be able to afford tickets if they were $80 per pair. I stand by my statement that if you can't afford $148 to spend on tickets, you can't afford $100 either. Anyone who maxes out a credit card or takes food off of their table to travel and follow a band deserves to be part of the recession.
Many are looking to blame everyone else for this recession when it indeed has two portions of blame in the largest sector of the recession (The home/mortgage market). Half of the blame falls on the institutions offering loans to those unqualified and half of the blame goes to the individuals who spent beyond their means.
It is really a necessity to be much more long sighted when blaming a recession on people not being able to afford an extra $40 for concert tickets.There's Pearl Jam, The Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry, Robert Johnson......and then everybody else.0 -
voodoopug wrote:The recession argument holds no water with me (and yes I believe there is a recession right now). If the recession is to blame, than ticket prices would be of no concern. Those who are in dire straits would not be able to afford tickets if they were $80 per pair. I stand by my statement that if you can't afford $148 to spend on tickets, you can't afford $100 either. Anyone who maxes out a credit card or takes food off of their table to travel and follow a band deserves to be part of the recession.
Many are looking to blame everyone else for this recession when it indeed has two portions of blame in the largest sector of the recession (The home/mortgage market). Half of the blame falls on the institutions offering loans to those unqualified and half of the blame goes to the individuals who spent beyond their means.
It is really a necessity to be much more long sighted when blaming a recession on people not being able to afford an extra $40 for concert tickets.
I agree with what you said concerning the recession but not the ticket prices. I think that extra $48 makes a difference. I posted earlier how in college for the 2000 tour i went to three shows for about $100. Now eight years later that would be $210. I would say it was easier for me to come up with $100 eight years ago v. coming up with $210 today (if i were a college student now).0 -
Why the hell arent they going as fast as past tours? Are people not as interested? Whats the dillio?4/30/03 Uniondale, NY
7/8/03 MSG
7/9/03 MSG
7/14/03 Holmdel, NJ
10/1/04 Reading Penn
10/3/05 Philly
5/13/06 Hartford, CT
5/27/06 Camden, NJ aka Philly
5/31/06 Storytellers Taping
6/1/06 East Rutherford, NJ
6/3/06 East Rutherford, NJ
6/19/08 Camden, NJ
6/24/08 MSG
6/25/08 MSG
6/27/08 Hartford, CT
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 10-27-2009
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 10-30-2009
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 10-31-2009
Hartford, CT 05-15-2010
New York, New York 05-21-2010
New York, New York 05-20-2010
East Troy, Wisconsin 09-04-2011 (PJ20)
East Troy, Wisconsin 09-03-2011 (PJ20)
Philadelphia, PA 09-02-2012 (Made In America)
Chicago, IL 07-19-2013
Pittsburgh, PA 10-11-2013
Buffalo, NY 10-12-2013
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3 years of relentless touring filters out the casual fans that would have gone maybe?>Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II, Sea I+II '240
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maybe they should write a hit song.0
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maybe it's because PJ sucks now. they need to grow their hair long and start making songs like jeremy and even flow again.i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam0
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DPrival78 wrote:maybe it's because PJ sucks now. they need to grow their hair long and start making songs like jeremy and even flow again.
yea and they need to start jumping up and down like crazy on stage while ed is climbing up random parts of the stage.5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
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PldgMyGrievance wrote:Why the hell arent they going as fast as past tours? Are people not as interested? Whats the dillio?
It just means you get a better seat.. the shows will sell out, maybe.. if not, its not the end of the world.. its not the 1990's anymore and a lot of people have lives now...they need new material too.. that might help..Buy the ticket, Take the ride..
10/20/91 (Omaha), 7/25/92 (Lolla/Denver), 3/7/94 (Denver), 6/20/95 (Red Rocks), 11/14/97 (Oakland), 6/23/98 (Denver), 10/25/00 (SD), 6/05/03 (SD), 10/8/04 (FL), 7/2/06 (Denver), 7/17/08 (VH1-Who Tribute LA), 10/6/09 (LA), 10/7/09 (LA), 9/3/11 & 9/4/11(PJ20), 12/06/13 (Seattle), 10/09/14 (Lincoln)..0 -
Easy, It was the way they announced the tour. I had a thread on it but people kept bashing me on it. I think a lot of people don't know about it yet.0
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maybe write a hit song?
or maybe less Bushleaguers.0 -
No new album?
Loss of popularity?
Ticket prices?
Short time frame between announcement and onsale date?
Your guess is as good as mine. If Camden isn't sold out, maybe we won't see a second show?0 -
Many reasons...
- Sudden announcement and prior engagements. Most bands pla their tour a good six months in advance and let the public know. It seemed like this time around PJ just scrambled at the last minute and decided to do a small tour with Bonarroo. I'm guessing it's so they can get a feeling for playing together again before they go into the studio.
- Not much hype surrounding the band this tour. They haven't released a new album or anything so the label is not promoting these shows much, or at all.
- Economics. The economy is in a recession, not matter what they say. Gas is at an all time high, as well as tix. Some people just probably cannot afford to pay $148 a pair then book hotel rooms and flights for the band's limited regional dates.0 -
I don't care as long as MSG is this easy!!!you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.0
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just a presale...looking for 2 to Columbia...
***GOT EM***0 -
yosi wrote:I don't care as long as MSG is this easy!!!
likewise
although you have more chance of winning the lottery than getting a "decent" ticket it would seem from reading the board recently!
how bad can a "bad" seat REALLY be though??Black, the greatest without a doubt........0 -
jbalicki10 wrote:Easy, It was the way they announced the tour. I had a thread on it but people kept bashing me on it. I think a lot of people don't know about it yet.
I think you hit it on the head. I don't know about everyone else, but i didn't even get an email. I just happen to visit the board from time to time and got real lucky.4-30-03
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Pearl Jam fans don't follow allocated disposable income when its tour time - we just go into debt. Recession = not a factor for 10c fans (IMO).
I think ticket prices are a larger factor. 2 pairs usually isn't too daunting since it's around $200 total. $300 for 2 pairs is daunting, especially if you need to sell one for each pair (I usually go with the notion that if someone buys it, good for me, but if not, oh well). $300 is a big "oh well" for 2 shows! (+ travel).DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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