10 club members get the nose bleeds 08/23/09

IlliniGuy76

paulonious wrote:

"Comprehend? There is not entltement.. people are upset as to the facts I just listed above."

So riddle me this, BUDDY, how many of the bitchers here actually took up their cause with the 10C, instead of trying to get attention here in the forum "OOOH....I was at that show too! I got robbed! Look at me!!! Woe is me!!!".

And please, AGAIN, do us both a favour, stop trying to pad your little argument with petty insults. It makes you look bad.

1) I'm not insulting you

2) You do realize the thread you are responding to, right? That's not bitching, it is discussing the thread that was started by a member.

IlliniGuy76

paulonious wrote:

IlliniGuy76 wrote:

paulonious wrote:

"Granted I used the word "liar". That's not calling me out, that's just simply avoiding the fact: I was correct in my statement."

Actually, that DOES mean you were incorrect in your statement. You used an absolute: "anyone". I am part of anyone, and your statement didn't apply to me. Therefore, your statement was incorrect. Do YOU comprehend? Pretty simple concept.

And it doesn't change the fact that we both agree on...

The mass majority of people that use the service, use it for one primary reason. Ok, so you got me! You got me! I called you a liar, and it isn't true!!! Does that make my statement listed above wrong? You & I both know the answer to that one, as we've already discussed.

yes, we agree on it, just not what you initially said. initially you stated that "anyone...blah blah blah". I merely stated that that statement was incorrect. let it go.

You're correct - I apologized for using such a broad term as "liar". It doesn't change the facts as I stated: The mass majority/lifeblood of the club use it for that reason.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

1) constantly asking me if I comprehend something, or stating I can't grasp simple concepts, is yes, insulting.

2) yes, thank you for checking, but I do know. people here are bitching about their right to good seats from 10C because of the whopping $20 they pay per year.

IlliniGuy76

paulonious wrote:

1) constantly asking me if I comprehend something, or stating I can't grasp simple concepts, is yes, insulting.

2) yes, thank you for checking, but I do know. people here are bitching about their right to good seats from 10C because of the whopping $20 they pay per year.

1) That's not insulting you

2) To some that whopping $20.00 a year actually is an added expense that they don't need to use. Granted, we aren't even talking about the amount of money some people shelled out to travel to Chicago because, they felt, that the $20.00 they paid would have garnered them the "best seats" and not seats that they shared with people who bought them off of Ticketmaster, or the day of.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

then my next question is.......how many of you that went to this Chicago show that feel they got shafted have used the 10C ticketing system before and got prime seats, and never once showed appreciation for it on the board? Huh? HUH?

How many thousands of people, including some of them, I'm sure of it, have used this service and been extremely pleased and had the time of their lives, BECAUSE OF THE 10C? Oh, right,that's all erased because of one experience.

The ONE TIME things go awry, they scream from the rooftops. Wah.

mookieblalock

you guys should get a room

SL169704

I had no expectation of having the "best seats". I did have an expectation that the seats would be worth traveling to the show. Apparently several thousand other people had the same expectation, since based on my admittedly small sample size survey, many of the 10C people were from far enough away to at least need a hotel.

From everything I've read, this situation appears to be an anomaly. OK, shit happens, and I understand that.

Some said "take it up with 10C". OK, I will. I am publicly asking, right now, for 10C to make a statement about the ticket situation at Chicago 1. I think we deserve to know if we can expect this to be the norm from here on out, in other words, is it a gamble and a crap shoot to travel to a show? I'm not talking about 10th row vs. 20th, or floor vs. side, I'm talking about upper level arena seats that are on the opposite end of the arena from the stage. Can we have some assurance that this was an unusual situation? Because quite frankly, I'm not buying any more 10C seats unless I know I can do better than Ticketmaster day of show. Why bother?

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan

paulonious wrote:

then my next question is.......how many of you that went to this Chicago show that feel they got shafted have used the 10C ticketing system before and got prime seats, and never once showed appreciation for it on the board? Huh? HUH?

How many thousands of people, including some of them, I'm sure of it, have used this service and been extremely pleased and had the time of their lives, BECAUSE OF THE 10C? Oh, right,that's all erased because of one experience.

The ONE TIME things go awry, they scream from the rooftops. Wah.

I imagine most people complaining have used the 10C before for tickets and had decent seats. That is precisely why people are upset at what happened on Sunday. Did the same thing happen on Monday? Doesn't seem like it. Seems like they fixed whatever the problem was the first time around. I imagine the 10C staff would admit that the top of the 300 level wasn't what they had in mind for their members either.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

mookieblalock wrote:

you guys should get a room

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan

or an octagon!

j-bug

:shock:

or a Rubix Cube...

madtowndave

I was happy with my tix, and I was in sec 303 for Sunday. (and NOBODY around me who traveled from D.C., West Virginia, and TX complained about their seats) Could they have been better, yeah but I had no expectation for being on the floor or even the first level. I had much rather give my $$ to 10 Club, than deal with the service charges from Ticketmaster, plus I didn't have to be sitting next to my computer on a Saturday morning waiting for them to go on sale. On Monday night I got sec 101, and I was ecstatic. The seats for Sunday made me appreciate the ones on Monday even more. I took a friend who had never seen PJ both nights, and they throughly enjoyed it. It was an awesome 2 nights regardless of where you were sitting.

SL169704

So, you came from Madison, a two hour drive, and you had great seats the second night. How would you have felt flying from Phoenix and only being able to attend Sunday for financial and work reasons?

Lauri

SL169704 wrote:

I had no expectation of having the "best seats". I did have an expectation that the seats would be worth traveling to the show. Apparently several thousand other people had the same expectation, since based on my admittedly small sample size survey, many of the 10C people were from far enough away to at least need a hotel.

From everything I've read, this situation appears to be an anomaly. OK, shit happens, and I understand that.

Some said "take it up with 10C". OK, I will. I am publicly asking, right now, for 10C to make a statement about the ticket situation at Chicago 1. I think we deserve to know if we can expect this to be the norm from here on out, in other words, is it a gamble and a crap shoot to travel to a show? I'm not talking about 10th row vs. 20th, or floor vs. side, I'm talking about upper level arena seats that are on the opposite end of the arena from the stage. Can we have some assurance that this was an unusual situation? Because quite frankly, I'm not buying any more 10C seats unless I know I can do better than Ticketmaster day of show. Why bother?

I think this is totally reasonable- no ten club members expect to be sitting way up there. It does definitely seem like something went wrong on Sunday, and it would be useful to know what it was. I don't think anyone goes to the shows expecting to be way up front, unless you have a really low number of course. But no one expects to be on the roof, either. If you know there's a possibility of being on the roof, yeah, it might make sense to get your tickets from another source. It also seems like there was something wrong with the seniority if in the 100 thousands were up there too!

simpleman

I was on the floor, and that does not really matter to me.. the show was gonna kick ass no matter where I was. But for what it's worth, there were a lot more floor tix on sale thru the agencies, ebay's, and other avenues. I saw a sec 2 27th row tick for 1650.00 the week before the show!! It is possible the United Center completely fucked the Ten Club... but I don't really know. Great show though....

littlwing

my guess is a lot of those "good" seats on ebay, agencies, etc is from season ticket holders who were able to buy tickets.

Pearl Jam_ie

SL169704 wrote:

So, you came from Madison, a two hour drive, and you had great seats the second night. How would you have felt flying from Phoenix and only being able to attend Sunday for financial and work reasons?

I hate that it was the case for a lot of people 'cause the second night was better for 10c seats. Sunday I was in the TOP ROW of 318. Monday night, 9 rows up in 101. I still had a great time both nights, but hoped most of the people I had around me got to stay for Monday.

madtowndave

SL169704 wrote:

So, you came from Madison, a two hour drive, and you had great seats the second night. How would you have felt flying from Phoenix and only being able to attend Sunday for financial and work reasons?

I don't know how I would feel because I am not in your position.I was only trying to share some of the positive attitudes that I encountered.

pj.uw.laura

Pearl Jam_ie wrote:

SL169704 wrote:

So, you came from Madison, a two hour drive, and you had great seats the second night. How would you have felt flying from Phoenix and only being able to attend Sunday for financial and work reasons?

I hate that it was the case for a lot of people 'cause the second night was better for 10c seats. Sunday I was in the TOP ROW of 318. Monday night, 9 rows up in 101. I still had a great time both nights, but hoped most of the people I had around me got to stay for Monday.

Hey PearlJam_ie, I was the one next to you night 2!

I was in the same boat... last row 318 night 1, 9th row 101 night 2. When I went to the window to get my tickets on night 2, the guy asked how I was, and I said,"Well, that depends on what tickets you're about to give me!" He goes, "Let me guess, you were here last night? Bad seats?" So obviously there was some communication among the ticket distributors at the UC, 10c, etc.

Once again, I have no problem if I was in 318 because everyone between me and the stage had a better 10c number than me. I do have a problem that there were people 30 feet from the stage who had bought the tickets off Ticketmaster that morning (I talked to one of them). I was happy to be in the building, and the sound was good night 1. However, 10c supposedly allocates the best tickets in the house for its members- this was simply not the case night 1. It seemed to have been rectified night 2.

Sleep.With.Innocence

The only problem here is that there were tickets on sale on Ticketmaster for sec 120 row 12, that's a damn good seat.

So you're telling me that Ticketmaster was selling better seats then Ten Club? I don't mean to be rude, but it's kind of discouraging to know that someone can buy a better ticket off of Ticketmaster than through the ten club.

There HAD to be some misscommunication.