Put me where ever you want Ten Club (preferably not behind the stage) in Philly on Halloween. I was lucky enough to get tickets to Pearl Jam at the Spectrum for probably the last concert there ever. To me it really does not take anything away from the show being a litle further away. It will be a blast no matter what.
Not trying to repeat myself here, but I know many times with season ticket holders they are held until the day of the show. Then if the season ticket holder doesn't want them, they "sell" them back to the venue. I don't know if that is what happened, but just some food for thought.
The only problem here is that there were tickets on sale on Ticketmaster for sec 120 row 12, that's a damn good seat.
So you're telling me that Ticketmaster was selling better seats then Ten Club? I don't mean to be rude, but it's kind of discouraging to know that someone can buy a better ticket off of Ticketmaster than through the ten club.
There HAD to be some misscommunication.
I talked to a guy earlier in the day on Sunday who had just bought section 115, row 12 at 10:55am through Ticketmaster. That should have gone to a 10c member with a pretty decent number.
The only problem here is that there were tickets on sale on Ticketmaster for sec 120 row 12, that's a damn good seat.
So you're telling me that Ticketmaster was selling better seats then Ten Club? I don't mean to be rude, but it's kind of discouraging to know that someone can buy a better ticket off of Ticketmaster than through the ten club.
There HAD to be some misscommunication.
alota times ticketmaster does ticket drop for concerts day of show. this happens at basically every concert.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Not trying to repeat myself here, but I know many times with season ticket holders they are held until the day of the show. Then if the season ticket holder doesn't want them, they "sell" them back to the venue. I don't know if that is what happened, but just some food for thought.
Season ticket holders were not offered anything for this event.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
The only problem here is that there were tickets on sale on Ticketmaster for sec 120 row 12, that's a damn good seat.
So you're telling me that Ticketmaster was selling better seats then Ten Club? I don't mean to be rude, but it's kind of discouraging to know that someone can buy a better ticket off of Ticketmaster than through the ten club.
There HAD to be some misscommunication.
alota times ticketmaster does ticket drop for concerts day of show. this happens at basically every concert.
I was talking about Ticketmaster purchasers who bought the day of event, a week before, the day they went on sale.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
The only problem here is that there were tickets on sale on Ticketmaster for sec 120 row 12, that's a damn good seat.
So you're telling me that Ticketmaster was selling better seats then Ten Club? I don't mean to be rude, but it's kind of discouraging to know that someone can buy a better ticket off of Ticketmaster than through the ten club.
There HAD to be some misscommunication.
alota times ticketmaster does ticket drop for concerts day of show. this happens at basically every concert.
I was talking about Ticketmaster purchasers who bought the day of event, a week before, the day they went on sale.
ummmm i didn't quote you. i was responding to sleep with innocence. :?
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
And I was letting you know that there were people that had great seats purchased on Ticketmaster well before the day of the event. But you're correct, once the stage is set up they usually release a few tickets based upon unknown seating areas.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
And I was letting you know that there were people that had great seats purchased on Ticketmaster well before the day of the event. But you're correct, once the stage is set up they usually release a few tickets based upon unknown seating areas.
ahhh ok, cool cool.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I already talked about this under the other thread but this is the more fitting one. So far I saw three people with numbers higher than mine getting better seats than mine both nights. So that makes me think there had to be something unusual going on. And the person at the box office would not show me my envelope. So I had no way of knowing those were really my tickets.
I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
So, you came from Madison, a two hour drive, and you had great seats the second night. How would you have felt flying from Phoenix and only being able to attend Sunday for financial and work reasons?
I don't know how I would feel because I am not in your position.I was only trying to share some of the positive attitudes that I encountered.
it doesn't seem to matter how good your intentions are, madtown......this guy just wants to shit on everyone.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I already talked about this under the other thread but this is the more fitting one. So far I saw three people with numbers higher than mine getting better seats than mine both nights. So that makes me think there had to be something unusual going on. And the person at the box office would not show me my envelope. So I had no way of knowing those were really my tickets.
Hmmm. This brings a thought to mind: what part of the alphabet are people who got the nosebleeds in? I wonder if there's a pattern.
I already talked about this under the other thread but this is the more fitting one. So far I saw three people with numbers higher than mine getting better seats than mine both nights. So that makes me think there had to be something unusual going on. And the person at the box office would not show me my envelope. So I had no way of knowing those were really my tickets.
The 10C should email us where we are going to be seated few days before the show. So when we get our tickets we can confirm and know if the our 10C tix where switched.
Here is the last thing I'm going to post on this debacle. (Fuck you, all of you who just said 'Good').
I dare anyone to say they would expect upper level back of the arena seats from 10C, regardless of priority number.
PJ has decided to skip the flyover states on this tour, which is fine. They can play anywhere they want. What this means is that die hard fans who are willing to travel, are going to travel to the shows.
I highly doubt when PJ envisioned 10C, they thought it would ever come to giving fairly low numbered fan club members who traveled 1000 miles to see the band, seats in the upper deck in the back of the United Center. I just don't believe that is what they would want, or expect. 10C should cut off sales when 10C seats are that bad, and let people use Ticketbastard to DECIDE whether they want to take seats like that. I've read other threads from people who attended both nights and had much better seats Monday, but for those of us who could not do that, the experience just sucked. That's all there is to it.
I wouldn't be surprised if merch sales were down for the show on Sunday. I know I was fuming to the point I skipped the $120 I had allocated to t-shirts and posters, and at least one other person I talked to said the same. I just want to forget about the show.
Here is the last thing I'm going to post on this debacle. (Fuck you, all of you who just said 'Good').
I dare anyone to say they would expect upper level back of the arena seats from 10C, regardless of priority number.
PJ has decided to skip the flyover states on this tour, which is fine. They can play anywhere they want. What this means is that die hard fans who are willing to travel, are going to travel to the shows.
I highly doubt when PJ envisioned 10C, they thought it would ever come to giving fairly low numbered fan club members who traveled 1000 miles to see the band, seats in the upper deck in the back of the United Center. I just don't believe that is what they would want, or expect. 10C should cut off sales when 10C seats are that bad, and let people use Ticketbastard to DECIDE whether they want to take seats like that. I've read other threads from people who attended both nights and had much better seats Monday, but for those of us who could not do that, the experience just sucked. That's all there is to it.
I wouldn't be surprised if merch sales were down for the show on Sunday. I know I was fuming to the point I skipped the $120 I had allocated to t-shirts and posters, and at least one other person I talked to said the same. I just want to forget about the show.
Some people don't want to wrap their brains around everything that you just stated only because Pearl Jam is their favorite band (and mine) and they could never do anything wrong, or see improvement in something.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
I didnt read through the whole thread, I really have no clue as to what was the reason for the seats in the upper deck, there has got to be a reason for that.
My number is 212819 and I got section 111, row 1 and a very good friend of mine is just off by a couple of numbers (his member number I mean) and they were in the same section and row as me.
I was really happy with my seats
"Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
some find it humorous when people only want improvement on issues when it affects them directly. that's called selfishness and whining.
take it up with the 10C, sistas. none of us can do anything about your entitlement issues. :roll:
1) It affected not one person, it affected a LOT of people.
2) Again - THIS THREAD is in direct topic of what we are talking about..if you wish not to talk about it, move along to another thread.
3) I realize you love tossing that word "entitlement" around because you believe it makes your argument look that much better.
Let's put the def of entitlement:
Main Entry: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\
Function: noun
Date: 1942
1 a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
2 : a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
3 : belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges
I do not believe I was deserving of a certain privelege. I believe, people believe, they were deserving of the service THEY PAID FOR. You see, the service said that 10C will get you the best seats possible. When you have others, in better areas of the arena, getting much better seats.. that's not getting the best seats possible. In other words, people are angry because the service they signed up for/paid for.. they didn't get according to what it actually says.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
I didnt read through the whole thread, I really have no clue as to what was the reason for the seats in the upper deck, there has got to be a reason for that.
My number is 212819 and I got section 111, row 1 and a very good friend of mine is just off by a couple of numbers (his member number I mean) and they were in the same section and row as me.
I was really happy with my seats
There were people with fantastic 10C numbers that were in the upper levels. That's why people are upset.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
The show kicked ass! A lot of people were upset with their seats, but as others have said, when half the arena is 10C members, some are gonna be in the back...I do think 10C actually learns from these situations. When they sold the two additional Philly shows there was a disclaimer saying something like "We have more than our usual amount of tickets for these shows, but after the usual allotment has been allocated, we can't guarantee prime seat location..."
Anyway, from what i saw, that show rocked from wherever you were sitting...
in all fairness....has anyone EVER gotten a 300 level seat thru 10c before? i've not ever heard of it, nor would i expect it.....not even at MSG, philly, boston or chicago. it definitely IS surprising, and i am sure to some degree, disappointing. i don't think ANYone with a high # expects a prime seat, but i wouldn't imagine worse than the 200 level. hell, the MSG I 2003 show, filled with 10clubbers, and my mediocre # still managed 200 level midway back. i would be very, very surprised to ever get 300 level seats. sure, the OP may be poor form, but i still think the idea behind it....not that far off. at least now i know, i may be in the 300 level for 10.30. :P
seriously tho, it seems like from my limited reading here....some got 300s....and some didn't.....even with similar 10c #s. also would seem that there must've been at least some TM tix that were sloser/better....and not just the rare single ticket. so it definitely appears to set a precedent in any case.
hope all managed to have a great time anyway!
(and damn....do pj still ban binoculars? )
for msg-when 10c offered up the special tm presale seats were in the 300's
And I was letting you know that there were people that had great seats purchased on Ticketmaster well before the day of the event. But you're correct, once the stage is set up they usually release a few tickets based upon unknown seating areas.
That seat at 120 was on sell for Night one, and it was on sale a few weeks before the show. (They actually made a post about it.)
And I was letting you know that there were people that had great seats purchased on Ticketmaster well before the day of the event. But you're correct, once the stage is set up they usually release a few tickets based upon unknown seating areas.
That seat at 120 was on sell for Night one, and it was on sale a few weeks before the show. (They actually made a post about it.)
The Monday show wasn't sold out
I'm talking about people that purchased tickets through Ticketmaster for both the Sunday & Monday show that had better seats than people, who had good 10C numbers, and were in the 300 level.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
some find it humorous when people only want improvement on issues when it affects them directly. that's called selfishness and whining.
take it up with the 10C, sistas. none of us can do anything about your entitlement issues. :roll:
1) It affected not one person, it affected a LOT of people.
2) Again - THIS THREAD is in direct topic of what we are talking about..if you wish not to talk about it, move along to another thread.
3) I realize you love tossing that word "entitlement" around because you believe it makes your argument look that much better.
Let's put the def of entitlement:
Main Entry: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\
Function: noun
Date: 1942
1 a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
2 : a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
3 : belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges
I do not believe I was deserving of a certain privelege. I believe, people believe, they were deserving of the service THEY PAID FOR. You see, the service said that 10C will get you the best seats possible. When you have others, in better areas of the arena, getting much better seats.. that's not getting the best seats possible. In other words, people are angry because the service they signed up for/paid for.. they didn't get according to what it actually says.
1) really? :roll:
2) I am talking about it what this thread is about. you just don't like what I'm saying. If you wish just have a pitty party amongst yourselves without any other feedback that you may not like, then don't go on a public forum to bitch about your problems.
3) you seem like throwing around the word "comprehend" to make your argument look that much better.
look, your definition of a service you paid for is obviously different than mine. You and I, and all of these people, all paid for a membership to a band's fan club, which includes, may I add, two things guaranteed by the Ten Club, and one thing that is not guaranteed. Please try and figure out which is which:
-a holiday vinyl single
-quarterly issues of Deep magazine
-POTENTIALLY good seats to a Pearl Jam show
You keep spouting the same drivel over and over, so I need not bother with this any more. But I will leave you with this, something I knew you would trip over on your own; you keep denying that there is a sense of entitlement at issue here with some of the Ten Clubbers (yourself included).
Feelings of deserving something is the exact same thing as a feeling of entitlement. It's right in your little definition there, sparky. And you even spelled it out yourself in the paragraph that follows it. And if you feel the need to argue that, then suck on this (copied directly, again, from your defnition):
a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract. Is this not EXACTLY what you people (or at the very least, Illinois Bois) are arguing? That you have a right to the benefits as outlined in the terms of your membership agreement? That's what you are all stating!
Peace out. Can't wait till the next batch of whining. No doubt when some people get their ten club edition of Backspacer and it doesn't include the lock of Ed's hair that they were entitled to .
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I told myself that I wouldn't bitch on here about seats, but they did really suck on Sunday. I have a really shitty number. Let old one lapse. My fault. But, I was 2 rows from the very top in section 317. The energy was great at the show (not so much in my section), but I could feel it in the room. If the explanation for the seats is that there were so many ten clubbers in the audience, I totally understand and respect that. It was just a little disappointing to be so far away. It was nice to have the screens, but I felt a bit more disconnected from the band than usual...like watching TV. I cannot do anything about my shitty ten club number and I will continue to get tickets from the Ten Club since they have been better in the past.
If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
Paulonius, I like your attitude, but I must say I disagree with you. Bottom line, tc members, regardless of number, should have the best seats the tc can possibly offer. TC has always been great to me, and they were again on Sunday, 3rd row, but I side with the people who were in the nose bleeds here. I do not blame tc, im sure something happened here that was out of their control, but when you travel to see pj banking on tc tix to be at least decent, and you have the worst seats in the venue, that is reason to complain. If your number is over 200 you cant expect great seats in a city like chicago, but you most certainly shouldnt expect the worst seats. I had people sitting next to me who bought seats on tm, that aint right. And I really don't think people bringing this situation up are whining, we must realize that this site is really the only platform to voice grievances.
Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
My # isn't the best, 334,xxx, or the worst. Last year, at the 6/19 Camden show, Thursday(a weeknight), I was in the 4th to last row, all the way to the right. Should I have expected to be that far back with that #? I didn't think so. Couldn't see a thing on stage. Was I happy about it? Definitely not. Did I have a good time anyway? Yes.
My problem is that you have no idea where you will be seated, and I would bet money that people working the ticket booths take tickets out of 10c envelopes and swap them, maybe make a couple of bucks partnering with scalpers. What methods are in place to prevent that from happening?
But instead of complaining to the 10c about seat location, maybe we can ask them about letting us know where we will be when we order tickets, or at least give us a general idea of where we should be?
I'll take that bet. I am in the ticket box office making sure this does not happen.
slh
Same Here Ledbetterman...I have an ok # was thinkin maybe ill get a sweet seat..but I am thinking my number wont get me such a good seat now...hehe can I start bitching about my philly seats now?
Well my number is 189xxx. Last year at MSG that had me on the floor but back a bit behind the divider. I'm pretty sure that the people who got nose-bleed seats last night are people with their number in the 300xxx range or higher so I'm not worried.
My number is in the low 100s, and I sat in the 300 level rafters.
No, IlliniGuy76. Your member number is 430XXX and you joined the fan club for the first time in April.
slh
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I talked to a guy earlier in the day on Sunday who had just bought section 115, row 12 at 10:55am through Ticketmaster. That should have gone to a 10c member with a pretty decent number.
But now might not be a good time to mention that you paid $74 not $68 (the total for the pair from 10C was $148)
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
#resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
#standingman #duranadam
it doesn't seem to matter how good your intentions are, madtown......this guy just wants to shit on everyone.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Hmmm. This brings a thought to mind: what part of the alphabet are people who got the nosebleeds in? I wonder if there's a pattern.
The 10C should email us where we are going to be seated few days before the show. So when we get our tickets we can confirm and know if the our 10C tix where switched.
Here is the last thing I'm going to post on this debacle. (Fuck you, all of you who just said 'Good').
I dare anyone to say they would expect upper level back of the arena seats from 10C, regardless of priority number.
PJ has decided to skip the flyover states on this tour, which is fine. They can play anywhere they want. What this means is that die hard fans who are willing to travel, are going to travel to the shows.
I highly doubt when PJ envisioned 10C, they thought it would ever come to giving fairly low numbered fan club members who traveled 1000 miles to see the band, seats in the upper deck in the back of the United Center. I just don't believe that is what they would want, or expect. 10C should cut off sales when 10C seats are that bad, and let people use Ticketbastard to DECIDE whether they want to take seats like that. I've read other threads from people who attended both nights and had much better seats Monday, but for those of us who could not do that, the experience just sucked. That's all there is to it.
I wouldn't be surprised if merch sales were down for the show on Sunday. I know I was fuming to the point I skipped the $120 I had allocated to t-shirts and posters, and at least one other person I talked to said the same. I just want to forget about the show.
Some people don't want to wrap their brains around everything that you just stated only because Pearl Jam is their favorite band (and mine) and they could never do anything wrong, or see improvement in something.
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)
take it up with the 10C, sistas. none of us can do anything about your entitlement issues. :roll:
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
My number is 212819 and I got section 111, row 1 and a very good friend of mine is just off by a couple of numbers (his member number I mean) and they were in the same section and row as me.
I was really happy with my seats
1) It affected not one person, it affected a LOT of people.
2) Again - THIS THREAD is in direct topic of what we are talking about..if you wish not to talk about it, move along to another thread.
3) I realize you love tossing that word "entitlement" around because you believe it makes your argument look that much better.
Let's put the def of entitlement:
Main Entry: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\
Function: noun
Date: 1942
1 a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
2 : a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
3 : belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges
I do not believe I was deserving of a certain privelege. I believe, people believe, they were deserving of the service THEY PAID FOR. You see, the service said that 10C will get you the best seats possible. When you have others, in better areas of the arena, getting much better seats.. that's not getting the best seats possible. In other words, people are angry because the service they signed up for/paid for.. they didn't get according to what it actually says.
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)
There were people with fantastic 10C numbers that were in the upper levels. That's why people are upset.
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)
for msg-when 10c offered up the special tm presale seats were in the 300's
'00 12 shows / '03 4 shows / '06 6 shows
'08 3 shows / '09 5 shows / '10 6 shows
That seat at 120 was on sell for Night one, and it was on sale a few weeks before the show. (They actually made a post about it.)
The Monday show wasn't sold out
I'm talking about people that purchased tickets through Ticketmaster for both the Sunday & Monday show that had better seats than people, who had good 10C numbers, and were in the 300 level.
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)
1) really? :roll:
2) I am talking about it what this thread is about. you just don't like what I'm saying. If you wish just have a pitty party amongst yourselves without any other feedback that you may not like, then don't go on a public forum to bitch about your problems.
3) you seem like throwing around the word "comprehend" to make your argument look that much better.
look, your definition of a service you paid for is obviously different than mine. You and I, and all of these people, all paid for a membership to a band's fan club, which includes, may I add, two things guaranteed by the Ten Club, and one thing that is not guaranteed. Please try and figure out which is which:
-a holiday vinyl single
-quarterly issues of Deep magazine
-POTENTIALLY good seats to a Pearl Jam show
You keep spouting the same drivel over and over, so I need not bother with this any more. But I will leave you with this, something I knew you would trip over on your own; you keep denying that there is a sense of entitlement at issue here with some of the Ten Clubbers (yourself included).
Feelings of deserving something is the exact same thing as a feeling of entitlement. It's right in your little definition there, sparky. And you even spelled it out yourself in the paragraph that follows it. And if you feel the need to argue that, then suck on this (copied directly, again, from your defnition):
a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract. Is this not EXACTLY what you people (or at the very least, Illinois Bois) are arguing? That you have a right to the benefits as outlined in the terms of your membership agreement? That's what you are all stating!
Peace out. Can't wait till the next batch of whining. No doubt when some people get their ten club edition of Backspacer and it doesn't include the lock of Ed's hair that they were entitled to .
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
slh
No, IlliniGuy76. Your member number is 430XXX and you joined the fan club for the first time in April.
slh
No, IlliniGuy76. Your member number is 430XXX and you joined the fan club for the first time in April.
slh