All Concerts Should Be Lottery

Cosmo

Robbuke wrote:

im 17, born in 91 and it kinda sucks to know i will never get close but hey whatever atleast i have an oppertunity to experience PJ and i have good seats to the shows compared to what i would have if i didnt belong to the TC

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Great outlook on the whole thing... I seriously hope you hit it big on the Lottery.
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Also... I have been in the Fan club since 1994 or 1995 and didn't get the front row til 2006... at a General Admission show. And I was standing next to people with fan club numbers in the 200,000 and 300,000 range. Of course, there was some sacrifice involved.
So, anything is possible.

rupy017

The ticketing should stay EXACTLY the way it is.

Mrs.Vedder78

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

I love how some of you people just foam at the mouth, with the thought of giving more people a chance to sit up close.

nobody is foaming at the mouth hun, there is a chance for people to get a good seat there are 4 rows available, its just that you want more and some of us disagree that seniority should be tossed aside because some think that it's unfair, as you pointed out earlier, it's a difference in opinion.

weekapaug19

Cosmo wrote:

aklobo29 wrote:

Agreed, I'm an older guy with a family now (46 years old now). I have seen about 26 shows over 18 years in 4 countries. I was there for one of their first shows (Woodsmen's Hall, Eugene, OR 1991). Been a fan since. Have gotten lucky getting tickets over the years, however, since I have only recently joined the 10C (sad, I know), I have found it difficult to score tickets to the upcoming shows -- again all this based on seniority. Lottery or some other way is neccessary. But what would this be??

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Even so... you were still able to see them 26 times (i don't know how many without the assistance of the Fan Club), but you still got tickets, right? And people can STILL get tickets without being in the Fan Club.
What the Fan Club provides is an alternative to the traditional (TicketMonster) method of attaining tickets. It is a GREAT service that the Fan Club is not obligated to provide. Yet, look at the amount of grief they get... for providing a service they really don't need to provide.
Yeah... i know, people would drop out of the club if the ticket deal was gone and revenues would drop... i know that. But, what does that tell you about the fans that would do that? I mean, i would still pay... just because i love the band. I admit to originally joining the Club just so i could get tickets without the hassles of ChargeLine or TicketMaster outlets at the MusicPlus. But, if they were to drop the ticket thing today... I'd still pay. I like getting the singles and the newsletters and think they are worth the price.

I think more people would join if it goes to a full lottery system. People don't really want to join now because they have a very small chance of getting a good seat (myself included who forgot to renew, then wasn't going to join again but ended up doing it for the extra opportunity to score tickets).

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

I love how some of you people just foam at the mouth, with the thought of giving more people a chance to sit up close.

nobody is foaming at the mouth hun, there is a chance for people to get a good seat there are 4 rows available, its just that you want more and some of us disagree that seniority should be tossed aside because some think that it's unfair, as you pointed out earlier, it's a difference in opinion.

I figure that Saturday, we will order a couple of pizzas for everyone to eat. Then you and I can order another pizza, so we can throw it at each other. It will be a KODAK moment. hehehehehehehe

Dont worry, I still love you, and I still have your crazy hair picture hanging above my bed.

dimitrispearljam

mfc2006 wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

The join date on the board doesn't really mean when you joined the 10C though, mine shows 2005, though I joined 1993 and when i lapsed I rejoined on 2000. The 2005 on my profile comes from when I created a second board name on the old board.

yup. well said!

yep for sure..well said..

dimitrispearljam

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

corduroykelly wrote:

I agree it doesn't matter when you got in the 10c it doesn't mean your any less of a fan lottery is best for all. I mean think of the younger fans too they get shit seats because when pearl jam's first album dropped they were wiping placenta off of their face.

Seniority has nothing to do with who is the bigger fan... that's the way life rolls why should senior members get worse seats because someone else was born in 1992?

There is a lottery and newer members have a shot at sitting there, I think that's more than fair.

exactly...and people was born in 92?..i wish i could be 17 again..so much to discover..

decides2dream

10c has already stated EVERY show from now on WILL be lottery...for the 1, 2, 9 and 10th rows. i am MORE than satisfied with that. i have a mediocre # at best, and in large cities - such as NY, my hometown shows - i am always up on the sides.....and i am still more than satisfied with the current lottery system. i think it is the BESt balance of rewarding old and new fans alike.


also, the 'old' arguement is, well,....old. i know quite a lot of 10clubbers with pretty damn fine #s, and most are not 'old'...in fact, i am older than a lot of em. also, even amongst some of us 'older' fans, i don't think anyone would doubt what a GREAt time, and lots of energy....i.....and many, many others of my age group, have at a show. old or young, people express their enjoyment differently. so enough with that. i really think 10c/ph hit a home-run with this compromise within the seniority seating. win-win!

jimbojones1138

just cause someone isnt rocking out doesnt mean they are not having a blast... everyone's experience is different... some people i know are just in awe and shock that they can't move...dont think its a buzz kill for the band at all

JOEJOEJOE

Much like freshman congressmen/women, people without much seniority shouldn't be allowed to question 10C seating policies or suggest changes.

decides2dream

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Much like freshman congressmen/women, people without much seniority shouldn't be allowed to question 10C seating policies or suggest changes.

i really wish you added a to that post.

while i disagree with the OP, i have to say that suggestions made here, by newbie and senior fanclub members alike is how we've gotten a LOT of excellent changes to our membership perks....from the random row seating lottery, wristbands for posters, now presales for posters, etc. suggestions are GREAt things, no matter who they come from.

theboxerorthebag

I have been in the fanclub 15 years and have never gotten closer than 4th row, so I say no to the lottery idea.

Kilgore_Trout

the current system is pretty cool and a nice compromise... first 2 rows is lottery and what else - rows 8-10?

you do anything more than that and youre gonna upset alot of people who have paid their dues for a long time... im not justifying it cause i have a great number or anything (311xxx) but it makes sense how it is right now... the band clearly wanted some kind of change in the first place to introduce the new lottery system for certain rows... that alone is enough to put my mind at ease... maybe its kindof a warning to those people with a sense of entitlement who dont rock the fuck out at every show... a few more rows might be added to the lottery pool if they dont have a little more fun :P

my fingers are crossed that i hit the jackpot for chicago 1 but if i dont i know ill still have pretty cool seats... and thats enough for me

the real key is networking and making friends with single 10C members with good numbers... then the system works to your advantage

Mrs.Vedder78

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

I love how some of you people just foam at the mouth, with the thought of giving more people a chance to sit up close.

nobody is foaming at the mouth hun, there is a chance for people to get a good seat there are 4 rows available, its just that you want more and some of us disagree that seniority should be tossed aside because some think that it's unfair, as you pointed out earlier, it's a difference in opinion.

I figure that Saturday, we will order a couple of pizzas for everyone to eat. Then you and I can order another pizza, so we can throw it at each other. It will be a KODAK moment. hehehehehehehe

Dont worry, I still love you, and I still have your crazy hair picture hanging above my bed.

Pizza sounds great, to eat and to throw
So Saturday afternoon then? .... the countdown is on! 20 days

PS:You are still my favorite

In2Deep

Cause I'm sure none of the newbies will be standing there "idle". Do the lotto, just don't do it every time. Award the seniority peep their dues, though.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

Pizza sounds great, to eat and to throw
So Saturday afternoon then? .... the countdown is on! 20 days

PS:You are still my favorite

We are the world...........
We are the children..........

covered in bliss

not only are the lottery rows affected, everyone is bumped a little bit. Rows 1 and 2 are moving back to 3 and 4 so the people that should be in 3 and 4 are moving back to 5 and 6... and so on. It affects a lot of people when you do the math.

-which is why I think it's fine the way it is. If your broaden the spectrum, you will displace more people. If you do that, you might as well get rid of the whole system.

The band doesn't have a problem with the ticketing, it's been the same way for a LONG time. Ed has commented on seeing the same people up front... their being RIGHT WHERE THEY BELONG.

aNiMaL

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

Pizza sounds great, to eat and to throw
So Saturday afternoon then? .... the countdown is on! 20 days

PS:You are still my favorite

We are the world...........
We are the children..........

We are the ones to make a brighter day so lets start giving....

Cosmo

aNiMaL wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

Pizza sounds great, to eat and to throw
So Saturday afternoon then? .... the countdown is on! 20 days

PS:You are still my favorite

We are the world...........
We are the children..........

We are the ones to make a brighter day so lets start giving....

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There's a joys worm aching, We're shaving our own eyes.
It's two wheel maker battered egg, Jesuit me.

In2Deep

Seniority is great for those who paid their dues. It's stated when you join the club that seniority is a factor. We all saw when we signed up. The lotto system is nice, I just don't believe it should be every show. Let those who have been in the fan club for ages get their seats. Tough shit, if you weren't born early enough. Life happens...