I just can't imagine how gutted you'd be if you had bought a ticket for £600 (which is what some were going for) only to be turned away at the doors because the ticket had been stolen.
But I guess that's the risk you take when you buy from touts.
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I remember a bunch of people got turned away from the Astoria show because touts had been selling tickets stolen from the venue.
Yeah, it was quite a scene that day. They were checking all our tickets against a list of supposedly stolen tickets.
Yep I remember this
It amazed me how organised the touts are though, I mean within minutes of the venue producing that list with the stolen ticket numbers on, the touts had a list of their own so they knew exactly what to sell and how much for. Hate touts.
2006 - Astoria, Dublin, Leeds
2007 - London
2009 - London, Manchester, London
2010 - Dublin, Belfast, London
2011 - Alpine Valley x2
2012 - Isle of Wight, Manchester x2
Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
I've never scalped a ticket. Had one for the Astoria last time and made sure it went to a real fan. Like to think all that good karma gets repaid. i managed to get a ticket for the Zep o2 concert the night before the gig when i'd just about given up and for face value as well. The guy wouldn't even let me buy him a t-shirt. I like to think that's payback for not ripping people off.
Hmmmm, just found out my ex boyfriend is the only o2 customer I know...do I getinto contact with the bloke who gave me an STD before we split up? Are they worth it? Think I'll put out a few more feelers before I take any drastic action!
Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
:-o, well lets show these fucks.
I always say, i rather eat my own ticket than sell it to a tout.
If O2 give out a password to people, whats to stop others using the same one? Or maybe a password is assigned to only 2 tickets? Or would you be sent a one-use link like HMV are doing? All very wishy-washy, I hope O2/HMV know what they're letting themselves in for! I might even go so far as to get an O2 sim card from the UK (if they're cheap/free), and doing that!
I have been considering getting a PAYG O2 card just for the damn presales.. maybe I should take the plunge (then just put £5 on it and that should last me a few years )
Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
I've never scalped a ticket. Had one for the Astoria last time and made sure it went to a real fan. Like to think all that good karma gets repaid. i managed to get a ticket for the Zep o2 concert the night before the gig when i'd just about given up and for face value as well. The guy wouldn't even let me buy him a t-shirt. I like to think that's payback for not ripping people off.
Me + Touts outside this show = Blood :evil:
I've come close to get into fights with the fuckers before but this show will be it!
Brisk has a funny story to tell about how I view reselling for above face , from that very venue actually (Smashing Pumpkins show in 07.. they were going for stupid money)
The Astoria, Paaks's (not yet at the time) wife had bought an online ticket for €300+, the guy wasn't showing up (she'd come all the way from Berlin especially), my friend sold her a ticket for face (she got a 10c one from another friend) and you should have seen how she was!!
but the fucking touts are making it a pain for everyone that even try to sell at face outside :x
line them up and shoot them I say!
Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
:-o, well lets show these fucks.
I always say, i rather eat my own ticket than sell it to a tout.
There will be no ticket eating for this show... can you even imagine?
Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
I sold my spare MSG 1 about half an hour before the show at face value. The dude that bought it was offering me hundreds, and I just thought it ridiculous to do that to a fellow fan as the same could happen me one day. Sold it for face, I made his day, he bought me a drink and we rocked out! Lets try and do the same for all of us here!!
Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
I sold my spare MSG 1 about half an hour before the show at face value. The dude that bought it was offering me hundreds, and I just thought it ridiculous to do that to a fellow fan as the same could happen me one day. Sold it for face, I made his day, he bought me a drink and we rocked out! Lets try and do the same for all of us here!!
Did the same before a Foo Fighters concert in Norway last summer.
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Well, both myself and the missus are on O2 and I've got a HMV pre-order on, so any spares will be offered to a couple of select friends before heading over here (assuming we manage to get tix in the first place!)
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Like I said before I can't see why they can't do what Bob Dylan and The Who do for their small club shows: make it so only the person who bought the ticket (and their guest) can enter the venue. It completely and utterly stops touts buying up the tickets and it would be easy to do for a small venue like the Empire.
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Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
:-o, well lets show these fucks.
I always say, i rather eat my own ticket than sell it to a tout.
There will be no ticket eating for this show... can you even imagine?
We'll be wanting another one of 'those' pics Jeff!
Like I said before I can't see why they can't do what Bob Dylan and The Who do for their small club shows: make it so only the person who bought the ticket (and their guest) can enter the venue. It completely and utterly stops touts buying up the tickets and it would be easy to do for a small venue like the Empire.
I suppose this could happen. We won't know until we know what the T&Cs of the actual tickets are.
Like I said before I can't see why they can't do what Bob Dylan and The Who do for their small club shows: make it so only the person who bought the ticket (and their guest) can enter the venue. It completely and utterly stops touts buying up the tickets and it would be easy to do for a small venue like the Empire.
actually it doesn't utterly stop it and considering the price those kind of shows command, the tout is still money in if they buy 2 and resell the one (then go out again).
But it limits it a bit sure.
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I remember a bunch of people got turned away from the Astoria show because touts had been selling tickets stolen from the venue.
Yeah, it was quite a scene that day. They were checking all our tickets against a list of supposedly stolen tickets.
I remember a 'fracas' or two as well.....
Remember the guy that had come over from Germany just for the show and ended up beating the shit out of the tout that sold him a stolen ticket? I was talking to him in the queue for hours and when he found out he couldn't get in he was super pissed. He found the tout and started beating on him, he ended up getting arrested for it but (and I'm in no way condoning violence here) it was good to see the tout get what he deserved
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Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
:-o, well lets show these fucks.
I always say, i rather eat my own ticket than sell it to a tout.
There will be no ticket eating for this show... can you even imagine?
So funny how valuble a piece of card can be, those tickets were gold dust, quite appropiate them being yellow too.
actually it doesn't utterly stop it and considering the price those kind of shows command, the tout is still money in if they buy 2 and resell the one (then go out again).
But it limits it a bit sure.
Well, at Bob Dylan when you picked up the ticket they immediately wristbanded you and your guest. Only with a wristband and the ticket were you allowed in.
And at The Who you had to had to enter the venue the minute you picked up the ticket at the venue. The same with Tom Waits (his shows actually required you name your guest within a week of buying the tickets too).
So it did stop most of the touting. I remember checking eBay for those gigs and there were none on sale, highly unusual for bands with hardcore fan bases who can normally sell out arenas, don't you think?
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Well I'll be dipped in dog shit! Just got in from work and saw this. Cancelled my O2 contract 2 weeks ago, doh!
Just pre-ordered the CD from HMV. I'll have a crack at getting tickets and if I get more than the 1 that I need, they can go to some deserving sole on the board.
I fear a rush of O2 customers buying them up just to make a killing on ebay. Sure hope the 10 club are gonna be selling these, I doubt it somehow. There are so many reasons that I should not be going to this show, but I'll worry about that if I'm lucky :?:
Guys its inevitable that touts will get a bucketload for this gig, those bastards have inside people I'm sure.
HMV has to be our only chance it would seem....lets hope they got a big enough allocation. Maybe they got the whole lot, I still hope tenclub got a good chunk too.
Heres to hoping.
I desperately want to be at this gig.
How many of us are desperate enough to cave into the touts if the need arises? because that in itself makes sure the twats will be at the the gig the next time and the time after. Its a difficult one to combat as because we all want to be there we give them business
Brisk, for Astoria I paid £300 for mine :evil: fucking bastards! I couldnt stand to look that sob in the eye. Thats why I never sell a ticket for more than face, I sold EV solo tickets for $20 I had spare in June !
I sold my spare MSG 1 about half an hour before the show at face value. The dude that bought it was offering me hundreds, and I just thought it ridiculous to do that to a fellow fan as the same could happen me one day. Sold it for face, I made his day, he bought me a drink and we rocked out! Lets try and do the same for all of us here!!
Speaking of MSG 1 drinks, those cups were too good not to steal!
'MSG HD, even the beer taste better in HD' - brilliant.
Well, at Bob Dylan when you picked up the ticket they immediately wristbanded you and your guest. Only with a wristband and the ticket were you allowed in.
And at The Who you had to had to enter the venue the minute you picked up the ticket at the venue. The same with Tom Waits (his shows actually required you name your guest within a week of buying the tickets too).
So it did stop most of the touting. I remember checking eBay for those gigs and there were none on sale, highly unusual for bands with hardcore fan bases who can normally sell out arenas, don't you think?
this "system" totally works and it would be shame if PJ did not adopt this policy for any small club show
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Yeah, it was quite a scene that day. They were checking all our tickets against a list of supposedly stolen tickets.
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But I guess that's the risk you take when you buy from touts.
1993 - London Finsbury Park - Brixton Academy x2
1995 - Reading Festival (with Neil Young)
1996 - London Wembley Arena x2
2000 - London Wembley Arena
2006 - Later With Jools Holland - Reading Festival
2007 - London Wembley Arena
2009 - London Shepherd's Bush Empire - O2 Arena
2010 - London Hyde Park
2012 - London Hammersmith Apollo x2 (EV solo)
Nevermind, see you lucky bastards in Manchester
Yep I remember this
It amazed me how organised the touts are though, I mean within minutes of the venue producing that list with the stolen ticket numbers on, the touts had a list of their own so they knew exactly what to sell and how much for. Hate touts.
2007 - London
2009 - London, Manchester, London
2010 - Dublin, Belfast, London
2011 - Alpine Valley x2
2012 - Isle of Wight, Manchester x2
I've never scalped a ticket. Had one for the Astoria last time and made sure it went to a real fan. Like to think all that good karma gets repaid. i managed to get a ticket for the Zep o2 concert the night before the gig when i'd just about given up and for face value as well. The guy wouldn't even let me buy him a t-shirt. I like to think that's payback for not ripping people off.
I remember a 'fracas' or two as well.....
:-o, well lets show these fucks.
I always say, i rather eat my own ticket than sell it to a tout.
Me + Touts outside this show = Blood :evil:
I've come close to get into fights with the fuckers before but this show will be it!
Brisk has a funny story to tell about how I view reselling for above face
The Astoria, Paaks's (not yet at the time) wife had bought an online ticket for €300+, the guy wasn't showing up (she'd come all the way from Berlin especially), my friend sold her a ticket for face (she got a 10c one from another friend) and you should have seen how
but the fucking touts are making it a pain for everyone that even try to sell at face outside :x
line them up and shoot them I say!
I actually have.
There will be no ticket eating for this show... can you even imagine?
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I sold my spare MSG 1 about half an hour before the show at face value. The dude that bought it was offering me hundreds, and I just thought it ridiculous to do that to a fellow fan as the same could happen me one day. Sold it for face, I made his day, he bought me a drink and we rocked out! Lets try and do the same for all of us here!!
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Did the same before a Foo Fighters concert in Norway last summer.
Yes, I have been to some Pearl Jam concerts. Several of them.
1993 - London Finsbury Park - Brixton Academy x2
1995 - Reading Festival (with Neil Young)
1996 - London Wembley Arena x2
2000 - London Wembley Arena
2006 - Later With Jools Holland - Reading Festival
2007 - London Wembley Arena
2009 - London Shepherd's Bush Empire - O2 Arena
2010 - London Hyde Park
2012 - London Hammersmith Apollo x2 (EV solo)
We'll be wanting another one of 'those' pics Jeff!
I suppose this could happen. We won't know until we know what the T&Cs of the actual tickets are.
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But it limits it a bit sure.
Remember the guy that had come over from Germany just for the show and ended up beating the shit out of the tout that sold him a stolen ticket? I was talking to him in the queue for hours and when he found out he couldn't get in he was super pissed. He found the tout and started beating on him, he ended up getting arrested for it but (and I'm in no way condoning violence here) it was good to see the tout get what he deserved
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So funny how valuble a piece of card can be, those tickets were gold dust, quite appropiate them being yellow too.
Yep....
This upcoming gig has quite a buzz to it... Reminds us all of Astoria (well.. at least those who were there)....
Well, at Bob Dylan when you picked up the ticket they immediately wristbanded you and your guest. Only with a wristband and the ticket were you allowed in.
And at The Who you had to had to enter the venue the minute you picked up the ticket at the venue. The same with Tom Waits (his shows actually required you name your guest within a week of buying the tickets too).
So it did stop most of the touting. I remember checking eBay for those gigs and there were none on sale, highly unusual for bands with hardcore fan bases who can normally sell out arenas, don't you think?
1993 - London Finsbury Park - Brixton Academy x2
1995 - Reading Festival (with Neil Young)
1996 - London Wembley Arena x2
2000 - London Wembley Arena
2006 - Later With Jools Holland - Reading Festival
2007 - London Wembley Arena
2009 - London Shepherd's Bush Empire - O2 Arena
2010 - London Hyde Park
2012 - London Hammersmith Apollo x2 (EV solo)
Just pre-ordered the CD from HMV. I'll have a crack at getting tickets and if I get more than the 1 that I need, they can go to some deserving sole on the board.
I fear a rush of O2 customers buying them up just to make a killing on ebay. Sure hope the 10 club are gonna be selling these, I doubt it somehow. There are so many reasons that I should not be going to this show, but I'll worry about that if I'm lucky
HMV has to be our only chance it would seem....lets hope they got a big enough allocation. Maybe they got the whole lot, I still hope tenclub got a good chunk too.
Heres to hoping.
I desperately want to be at this gig.
How many of us are desperate enough to cave into the touts if the need arises? because that in itself makes sure the twats will be at the the gig the next time and the time after. Its a difficult one to combat as because we all want to be there we give them business
Speaking of MSG 1 drinks, those cups were too good not to steal!
'MSG HD, even the beer taste better in HD' - brilliant.
Only things i drink out of these days, good size!
this "system" totally works and it would be shame if PJ did not adopt this policy for any small club show
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Katowice '07
London '07 '09 (x2), '10
MSG NY '08 (x2)
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Belfast '10
PJ20 Alpine '11 (x2)
Leeds '14