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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,661
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-adam-schiff-under-federal-criminal-investigation-alleged-mortgage-fraud-violations

    "Little Lyin' Adam Schiff". Another Dem finally getting his comeuppance. Hopefully...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    I know polls don’t mean much these days and particularly in hypotheticals or comparisons, unlike some posters, but since they were chicken littling 3.5 years out, I thought I’d share.

    Trump trails Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders in favorability polling: Gallup

    President Trump trails progressive stalwarts Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in favorability polling, according to a new survey conducted by Gallup

    The poll, which was released Tuesday morning, found that among 14 prominent figures, Trump’s net favorable rating was negative 16 points, with 41 percent of respondents having a favorable view of the president and 57 percent saying the opposite. Another 2 percent had no opinion about Trump. 

    Ocasio-Cortez’s net favorability was negative 4 points, with 34 percent having a favorable view of her and 38 percent having an unfavorable one. About 28 percent had no opinion about her. 

    Former President Biden, whose public support while in office never recovered after dropping midway through his term, accumulated a negative 11 point favorable rating, placing him in the middle of the list. About 43 percent of U.S. adults had a favorable view of Biden, while 54 percent said the opposite. Another 3 percent had no opinion. 

    https://apple.news/AADcjqTJWTm2pOnf1BWtwHg

    My first thought was actually, wow, people still like Trump more than AOC, but you seem to have the opposite view. He got a 41% favorability rating to her 34% even after everything. Who cares about the net rating when that little gem is in there. Also, even no longer present or publicly engaged Biden is barely rated better than Trump. Face it, a lot of people like him no matter how shitty he or his administration are. I don't think that poll is a positive in any way.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,052
    tbergs said:
    I know polls don’t mean much these days and particularly in hypotheticals or comparisons, unlike some posters, but since they were chicken littling 3.5 years out, I thought I’d share.

    Trump trails Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders in favorability polling: Gallup

    President Trump trails progressive stalwarts Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in favorability polling, according to a new survey conducted by Gallup

    The poll, which was released Tuesday morning, found that among 14 prominent figures, Trump’s net favorable rating was negative 16 points, with 41 percent of respondents having a favorable view of the president and 57 percent saying the opposite. Another 2 percent had no opinion about Trump. 

    Ocasio-Cortez’s net favorability was negative 4 points, with 34 percent having a favorable view of her and 38 percent having an unfavorable one. About 28 percent had no opinion about her. 

    Former President Biden, whose public support while in office never recovered after dropping midway through his term, accumulated a negative 11 point favorable rating, placing him in the middle of the list. About 43 percent of U.S. adults had a favorable view of Biden, while 54 percent said the opposite. Another 3 percent had no opinion. 

    https://apple.news/AADcjqTJWTm2pOnf1BWtwHg

    My first thought was actually, wow, people still like Trump more than AOC, but you seem to have the opposite view. He got a 41% favorability rating to her 34% even after everything. Who cares about the net rating when that little gem is in there. Also, even no longer present or publicly engaged Biden is barely rated better than Trump. Face it, a lot of people like him no matter how shitty he or his administration are. I don't think that poll is a positive in any way.
    I find it amusing that after the crowing of a 1% lead JD Byryder had in hypotheticals 3.5 years out. The number of people with no opinion of AOC is also amusing with 28% having no opinion. 41% are his base 35% die hard and supposed indies, 6%, holding on for now.

    Dems might as well concede. It’s over.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,524
    static111 said:
    I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

    Anyhow - I'd really like to know

    1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
    2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
    3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

    I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

    my opinion...wait it out

    I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

    It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.
    if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.
    I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 
    Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

    Electoral College needs to go too. 

    Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

    The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

    The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

    and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.
    All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

    Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.
    Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.
    That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

    It'd be laughable how dems act if it didn't cost the country for them being clueless idiots 

    It’s worth pointing out looking at things from a 2024 lens is different than through a 2025 one.


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,052
    Better fire the statisticians. All fake news. But wow, ‘Murica. So much winning!

    Oh, FJB!

    US crime rates dropped in 2024, new FBI report shows

    Murder offences decrease by 14.9 percent as US public safety continues to improve after pandemic, according to FBI data.

    A new report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has found that crime in the United States decreased in 2024, continuing a trend of improved public safety after a spike in murders during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    The report, released on Tuesday, estimates that 1,221,345 incidents of violent crime – including murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault offences – took place in the US last year, down by 4.5 percent from 2023.

    Intentional homicides decreased by 14.9 percent. But at a rate of 5 for every 100,000 people, the murder rate in the US remains significantly higher than throughout most of the world.

    For example, according to United Nations data, the murder rate in Japan in 2023 was 0.23 per 100,000 people. In Oman, the rate was 0.14. In Norway, it was 0.72. And in the US’s northern neighbour, Canada, the rate was 1.98.

    Nonetheless, the 2024 murder rate in the US represents a nine-year low and a major decline from a recent peak of 6.7 per 100,000 in 2020, the first year of the pandemic.

    Rape offences also went down by 5.2 percent in 2024, the report said, while reports of hate crimes decreased by 1.5 percent.

    Overall, a violent crime occurred in the US every 26 seconds, a murder every 31 minutes and a rape offence every four minutes.

    Property crime also decreased in 2024, according to the FBI report. The bureau recorded 5,986,400 such offences, an 8.1 percent decrease from 2023.

    The data is based on the reporting of thousands of law enforcement agencies that cover 95.6 percent of US residents, the FBI said.

    According to the report, 64 police officers were criminally killed last year, and 43 others died in accidents. More than 85,700 officers were assaulted, a slight uptick from 2023 and a 10-year high.

    Gun violence has been a leading driver of crime in the US. According to the database Gun Violence Archives, there have been 8,878 gun-related deaths and 261 mass shootings so far in 2025.

    Last week, an attacker armed with a rifle killed four people, including a police officer, near the headquarters of the National Football League (NFL) in New York City.

    Last year, US President Donald Trump made public safety a major theme in his election campaign, portraying his Democratic rivals as weak on crime and anti-police.

    Although the initial uptick in crime rates happened during the last year of Trump’s first term, the Republican leader repeatedly promised to restore “law and order”. It is largely the states and local authorities that oversee policing.

    On Tuesday, Trump renewed his criticism of local policing and prosecution in Washington, DC, threatening to have federal authorities take over the US capital city.

    He claimed that teenage “thugs” are randomly attacking people in the capital city and called for any youth suspects to be prosecuted and tried as adults.

    “Washington, DC, must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans and, importantly, for the World to see,” Trump wrote in a social media post.

    “If DC doesn’t get its act together, and quickly, we will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore.”

    However, official data shows that crime has been on a downward trend in Washington, DC, contradicting Trump’s claim that the capital “is totally out of control”.

    For example, violent crime went down by 35 percent in 2024 compared with the previous year, and homicide dropped by 32 percent.

    Tuesday’s data does not reflect the state of public safety under Trump, who returned to the White House in January this year.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/us-crime-rates-dropped-in-2024-new-fbi-report-shows

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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,764
    edited 1:31PM
    It's quite remarkable that democrats are so hapless and incapable of winning elections as we've been told over and over again, and yet at the same time, republicans are pushing to redistrict several states in order to rig elections. 

    It makes a ton of sense if you don't spend any time actually thinking about it.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    Like what? 

    It would be funny if it were just you that's deaf to it. Literally look at this page today and a couple of comments I replied to. This type of childish behavior is endless yet you are silent to it
    Do you expect him to monitor all comments and call them out before you get to?


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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    shecky said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-adam-schiff-under-federal-criminal-investigation-alleged-mortgage-fraud-violations

    "Little Lyin' Adam Schiff". Another Dem finally getting his comeuppance. Hopefully...
    Don't you see the pattern Shecky? THis is all bs...why haven't you figured it out yet. Nothing ever comes out of this crap.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    shecky said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-adam-schiff-under-federal-criminal-investigation-alleged-mortgage-fraud-violations

    "Little Lyin' Adam Schiff". Another Dem finally getting his comeuppance. Hopefully...
    Don't you see the pattern Shecky? THis is all bs...why haven't you figured it out yet. Nothing ever comes out of this crap.
    I'm not trying to be rude here, Gern, but don't you see the pattern? He posts something due to activate people, waits for it, enjoys it. If no one is activated, he repeats the process with something new. You can't have honest and reasonable discourse with someone whose primary objective is trying to trigger you. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,400
    shecky said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-adam-schiff-under-federal-criminal-investigation-alleged-mortgage-fraud-violations

    "Little Lyin' Adam Schiff". Another Dem finally getting his comeuppance. Hopefully...
    Don't you see the pattern Shecky? THis is all bs...why haven't you figured it out yet. Nothing ever comes out of this crap.
    foQsnooze does nothing but disseminate bs, conspiracy theories, dogwhistles, and lies created by their writers. Which is then parroted by the grifter-n-chief to his sycophants who believe and then parrot it again.

    Bunch of brainwashed cultists
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    benjs said:
    shecky said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-adam-schiff-under-federal-criminal-investigation-alleged-mortgage-fraud-violations

    "Little Lyin' Adam Schiff". Another Dem finally getting his comeuppance. Hopefully...
    Don't you see the pattern Shecky? THis is all bs...why haven't you figured it out yet. Nothing ever comes out of this crap.
    I'm not trying to be rude here, Gern, but don't you see the pattern? He posts something due to activate people, waits for it, enjoys it. If no one is activated, he repeats the process with something new. You can't have honest and reasonable discourse with someone whose primary objective is trying to trigger you. 
    lol....I know...something in me just thinks there might be hope for Shecky
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,037
    benjs said:
    shecky said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-adam-schiff-under-federal-criminal-investigation-alleged-mortgage-fraud-violations

    "Little Lyin' Adam Schiff". Another Dem finally getting his comeuppance. Hopefully...
    Don't you see the pattern Shecky? THis is all bs...why haven't you figured it out yet. Nothing ever comes out of this crap.
    I'm not trying to be rude here, Gern, but don't you see the pattern? He posts something due to activate people, waits for it, enjoys it. If no one is activated, he repeats the process with something new. You can't have honest and reasonable discourse with someone whose primary objective is trying to trigger you. 
    at least this time the picture does not say "OPINION" really big in the upper left corner.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    static111 said:
    I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

    Anyhow - I'd really like to know

    1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
    2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
    3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

    I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

    my opinion...wait it out

    I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

    It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.
    if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.
    I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 
    Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

    Electoral College needs to go too. 

    Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

    The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

    The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

    and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.
    All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

    Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.
    Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.
    That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.
    Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

    This Thread is literally arguing we don't need to vote and they are taking my vote away.

    The childish behavior on here is very representative of what's coming out of the Democratic Party. And grow up with the f****** complaining about Palestine already. If you got a problem go get yourself a gun and go fight the war.

    Here's your example Timmy boy
    I’ll call out pro-genocide posters as I see them. Respond with AI, AI pro-genocide guy.

    Need to break the rules and lie to make that point. Weak. Sad.

    can you be called a liar now on the forum? Let’s ask the mods.

    ” since the pinned post is now removed from the AMT homepage, can we now not only talk about each other here, but lie about other commenters?”
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    Complains about “childish behaviour” and then types out “Timmy boy.” You can’t make this up.
     Yes, only you get to joke.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    static111 said:
    I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

    Anyhow - I'd really like to know

    1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
    2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
    3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

    I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

    my opinion...wait it out

    I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

    It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.
    if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.
    I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 
    Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

    Electoral College needs to go too. 

    Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

    The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

    The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

    and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.
    All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

    Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.
    Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.
    That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.
    Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

    This Thread is literally arguing we don't need to vote and they are taking my vote away.

    The childish behavior on here is very representative of what's coming out of the Democratic Party. And grow up with the f****** complaining about Palestine already. If you got a problem go get yourself a gun and go fight the war.

    Here's your example Timmy boy
    Isn’t that what you’ve been bloviating about endlessly for months on end? That the cover up by the Brandon deep state regarding his condition, eventual withdrawal from the race and Kamala’s elevation as the dem POTUS candidate didn’t leave you a choice, it did, and you were disenfranchised, you weren’t?

    The Tejas situation is mid-census redistricting to ensure that despite dem voters voting, the district contains a majority of repub voters to ensure a repub victory. That is an entirely different situation and scenario than what you’ve been whining about for months. That you can’t tell the difference between the two is not only telling but indicative.


    Even for those that don’t support what abbot is doing, at least in Texas they still get to vote, unlike for the Democratic nominee last year. Democrats in Texas  still would  have the ability to change opinions of the voters. 

    And if you look back to certain recent midterms, even in the new redrawn districts, there are seats in the new districts, the Democrats would win. The problem is the party has no idea how to influence moderate voters. The dems believe if they keep reaching for extremes, they would somehow win more seats. Why are the dems so extreme?


    All you need to do is read your comment history to understand.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    I know polls don’t mean much these days and particularly in hypotheticals or comparisons, unlike some posters, but since they were chicken littling 3.5 years out, I thought I’d share.

    Trump trails Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders in favorability polling: Gallup

    President Trump trails progressive stalwarts Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in favorability polling, according to a new survey conducted by Gallup

    The poll, which was released Tuesday morning, found that among 14 prominent figures, Trump’s net favorable rating was negative 16 points, with 41 percent of respondents having a favorable view of the president and 57 percent saying the opposite. Another 2 percent had no opinion about Trump. 

    Ocasio-Cortez’s net favorability was negative 4 points, with 34 percent having a favorable view of her and 38 percent having an unfavorable one. About 28 percent had no opinion about her. 

    Former President Biden, whose public support while in office never recovered after dropping midway through his term, accumulated a negative 11 point favorable rating, placing him in the middle of the list. About 43 percent of U.S. adults had a favorable view of Biden, while 54 percent said the opposite. Another 3 percent had no opinion. 

    https://apple.news/AADcjqTJWTm2pOnf1BWtwHg



    Go ahead, nominate her and watch those numbers implode. One would think people who spend a lot of time reading about politics would understand the basics of opinion polling. Americans like to say they don’t like the guy in power or the guy or gal in Congress but hey look there’s a shiny new object that I really don’t know, I like that new person. Unless you were really saying AOC could win Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    Did I really just read someone post a poll as a positive thing where one of the proposed leaders of the new Democratic movement has a 34% favorable rating? Almost as many people have no opinion of her as have a favorite opinion of her. Wow, that’s a good poll?

    The extremism of Democrats today is stunning. That’s a rather poor favorability rating and really are showing off how bad the Democrats are today
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,052
    Did I really just read someone post a poll as a positive thing where one of the proposed leaders of the new Democratic movement has a 34% favorable rating? Almost as many people have no opinion of her as have a favorite opinion of her. Wow, that’s a good poll?

    The extremism of Democrats today is stunning. That’s a rather poor favorability rating and really are showing off how bad the Democrats are today
    Can you read? Or do you rely on AI, AI genocide guy?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,037
    dEmOcRaTs ArE tErRiBlE,...

    yawn

    at this point either you are a fascist or fascist adjacent, or you aren't.

    democrats aren't. so that is the fucking choice at this time.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,052
    I know polls don’t mean much these days and particularly in hypotheticals or comparisons, unlike some posters, but since they were chicken littling 3.5 years out, I thought I’d share.

    Trump trails Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders in favorability polling: Gallup

    President Trump trails progressive stalwarts Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in favorability polling, according to a new survey conducted by Gallup

    The poll, which was released Tuesday morning, found that among 14 prominent figures, Trump’s net favorable rating was negative 16 points, with 41 percent of respondents having a favorable view of the president and 57 percent saying the opposite. Another 2 percent had no opinion about Trump. 

    Ocasio-Cortez’s net favorability was negative 4 points, with 34 percent having a favorable view of her and 38 percent having an unfavorable one. About 28 percent had no opinion about her. 

    Former President Biden, whose public support while in office never recovered after dropping midway through his term, accumulated a negative 11 point favorable rating, placing him in the middle of the list. About 43 percent of U.S. adults had a favorable view of Biden, while 54 percent said the opposite. Another 3 percent had no opinion. 

    https://apple.news/AADcjqTJWTm2pOnf1BWtwHg



    Go ahead, nominate her and watch those numbers implode. One would think people who spend a lot of time reading about politics would understand the basics of opinion polling. Americans like to say they don’t like the guy in power or the guy or gal in Congress but hey look there’s a shiny new object that I really don’t know, I like that new person. Unless you were really saying AOC could win Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida.
    You don’t even understand polling results and yet you lecture us on politics. Polls consistently show that voters give the congress and POTUS low marks, from both parties, and yet give their elected representatives high marks. Consistently. 

    Learn how to read and read a book.
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