Democrats

cincybearcat

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

ask those voters they took for granted whats up and listen. and found out from the 90 million or so who dont vote , why?

Any idea on what they would say?  

static111

Self proclaimed centrist stuff lol

Merkin Baller

static111 said:

Self proclaimed centrist stuff lol

It's too laughable to take seriously. 

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

static111

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

Gern Blansten

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

Tim Simmons

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

and hang the people behind it!!1

Halifax2TheMax

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

Lerxst1992

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

It'd be laughable how dems act if it didn't cost the country for them being clueless idiots 

Noone said what you suggested. You are playing childish strawman games. We have prosecutors for a reason. Trump turned all political investigations into witch hunts,  yet we pretend the minority in congress has some sort of enforcement power here. Go to the DA and then figure out how to win.

Lerxst1992

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

This Thread is literally arguing we don't need to vote and they are taking my vote away.

The childish behavior on here is very representative of what's coming out of the Democratic Party. And grow up with the f****** complaining about Palestine already. If you got a problem go get yourself a gun and go fight the war.

Here's your example Timmy boy

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

Like what? 

It would be funny if it were just you that's deaf to it. Literally look at this page today and a couple of comments I replied to. This type of childish behavior is endless yet you are silent to it

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

This Thread is literally arguing we don't need to vote and they are taking my vote away.

The childish behavior on here is very representative of what's coming out of the Democratic Party. And grow up with the f****** complaining about Palestine already. If you got a problem go get yourself a gun and go fight the war.

Here's your example Timmy boy

I’ll call out pro-genocide posters as I see them. Respond with AI, AI pro-genocide guy.

gimmesometruth27

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

This Thread is literally arguing we don't need to vote and they are taking my vote away.

The childish behavior on here is very representative of what's coming out of the Democratic Party. And grow up with the f****** complaining about Palestine already. If you got a problem go get yourself a gun and go fight the war.

Here's your example Timmy boy

"grow up with the fucking complaining about palestine already" is a string of words no centrist would ever type.

just sayin.

gimmesometruth27

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Like what? 

It would be funny if it were just you that's deaf to it. Literally look at this page today and a couple of comments I replied to. This type of childish behavior is endless yet you are silent to it

you know what is comical to me?

the fact that a self proclaimed "centrist" is shitting all over democrats every day for being not centrist enough when their base is not centrist at all. leadership is centrist and is out of touch with the run of the mill democrat, and those democrats are angry about it. they feel like leadership is tone deaf. and the "centrist" says "yeah they need to be more centrist". it is a losing message. just like the centrist says running left of center is a losing message. just like carville says. just like bill maher says. the people want left of center policies, not this middle of the road, neutral position that is the weakest of all positions.

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Like what? 

It would be funny if it were just you that's deaf to it. Literally look at this page today and a couple of comments I replied to. This type of childish behavior is endless yet you are silent to it

I have people blocked so I may not read everything. 

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

This Thread is literally arguing we don't need to vote and they are taking my vote away.

The childish behavior on here is very representative of what's coming out of the Democratic Party. 

Here's your example Timmy boy

It’s just normal people venting and shit posting on a message board. Relax. 

Tim Simmons

But the subtext of that STFU about Palestine comment is quite insightful. 

Halifax2TheMax

Complains about “childish behaviour” and then types out “Timmy boy.” You can’t make this up.

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I asked someone before recently, but I cannot find that post...new forum/old user....makes it difficult!

Anyhow - I'd really like to know

1) What are some of the things that the Democratic party are doing today that they should stop doing?  
2) What are some of the things that the Democratic party isn't doing today that they should start doing?
3) When trying to win national elections, what issues/behaviors, etc of some of the more extreme liberals in the US (both online and in person) are hurting the Democratic party from winning big state and national elections?

I haven't voted for a single R since probably the election before the 2016 presidential election in any way (local, state, national)....I honestly thought back in 2016 that if people like me would vote against trump and the GOP during the MAGA takeover that it was a good sign that it wouldn't happen.  But it did.  So, in your opinion, what's the playbook to try and change this around?

my opinion...wait it out

I feel like trump is such a cult like figure we are trapped until he is no longer relevant. That base will not leave him regardless of what disgusting behavior or criminal activity he is involved in.

It wouldn't hurt to fight back a bit. I love the idea of CA, NY, IL, etc., gerrymandering to offset the bullshit that TX is doing. Time to stop playing nice.

if texas redistricts now, blue states must do the same. trump says texas and the gop are "entitled" to 5 more gop seats in texas. if that is the case, the dems, as the minority party, are entitled to find 20 seats in blue states. hopefully california, MA, IL, NY, and a few others will redistrict because fuck the cheating gop.

I really hate Gerrymandering.  I do think it makes sense to revisit maps as people move about, but obviously when the people in power have the power to ensure they can keep power or get more power.... 

Absolutely. It stops being the Will of the people and becomes the revised rules of the rulers. 

Electoral College needs to go too. 

Sure, but that’s not the reality we have. It’s staying unless 75% of states want it gone. Just like AMT moderating, it ain’t happening.

The house is about worthless. Can’t pass any new laws and it has zero say on scotus nominees, and the minority never cares about investigations , just like Dems now ignore the sleepy Joe investigations. Anyone know that’s a thing if shecky didn’t post about it?

The important prize is the senate, and as usual Dems have no plan for getting back those three red state seats lost and holding four swing seats. If they do, all we hear about is TX and Epstein stories.

and next census House will have ten seats sent from NY and CA to red states, a direct result of dem policies failing which create high COL which is sending young voters to red states and red party.

All we “hear about is TX.” WTF? It just started last week and Epstein is a story of the COOTWH cult’s own making.

Stop trying to normalize shit that shouldn’t be normalized, like genocide.

Yeah I mean I live in Texas and potentially having my vote taken away by a rogue governor at the direction of Trump is a small thing compared to the biggest crime ever of Joe Biden and the Dems.

That's kind of where I'm at now. So what if trump molested women and children? Biden looked old and stammered sometimes.

Brandon also sniffed hair. Don’t forget that crime against humanity.

This Thread is literally arguing we don't need to vote and they are taking my vote away.

The childish behavior on here is very representative of what's coming out of the Democratic Party. And grow up with the f****** complaining about Palestine already. If you got a problem go get yourself a gun and go fight the war.

Here's your example Timmy boy

Isn’t that what you’ve been bloviating about endlessly for months on end? That the cover up by the Brandon deep state regarding his condition, eventual withdrawal from the race and Kamala’s elevation as the dem POTUS candidate didn’t leave you a choice, it did, and you were disenfranchised, you weren’t?

The Tejas situation is mid-census redistricting to ensure that despite dem voters voting, the district contains a majority of repub voters to ensure a repub victory. That is an entirely different situation and scenario than what you’ve been whining about for months. That you can’t tell the difference between the two is not only telling but indicative.

Halifax2TheMax

I know polls don’t mean much these days and particularly in hypotheticals or comparisons, unlike some posters, but since they were chicken littling 3.5 years out, I thought I’d share.

Trump trails Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders in favorability polling: Gallup

President Trump trails progressive stalwarts Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in favorability polling, according to a new survey conducted by Gallup. 

The poll, which was released Tuesday morning, found that among 14 prominent figures, Trump’s net favorable rating was negative 16 points, with 41 percent of respondents having a favorable view of the president and 57 percent saying the opposite. Another 2 percent had no opinion about Trump. 

Ocasio-Cortez’s net favorability was negative 4 points, with 34 percent having a favorable view of her and 38 percent having an unfavorable one. About 28 percent had no opinion about her. 

Former President Biden, whose public support while in office never recovered after dropping midway through his term, accumulated a negative 11 point favorable rating, placing him in the middle of the list. About 43 percent of U.S. adults had a favorable view of Biden, while 54 percent said the opposite. Another 3 percent had no opinion. 

https://apple.news/AADcjqTJWTm2pOnf1BWtwHg