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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    edited August 3
    no one wants Hamas. And it’s dumb that you think that if it isn’t posted then it isn’t canon. Maybe ask before just assuming. Fucking Christ. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    cincybearcat said:
    The left shits in Trump for being an asshole to people thst do things he doesn’t like or decisions he doesn’t agree with. They call him a dictator when wh fires people.

    they are right.

    And the extreme left is the same.
    seriously? 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,013
    Tim Simmons said:
    cincybearcat said:
    The left shits in Trump for being an asshole to people thst do things he doesn’t like or decisions he doesn’t agree with. They call him a dictator when wh fires people.

    they are right.

    And the extreme left is the same.
    seriously? 
    It’s how far down the rabbit hole a majority of folks have fallen. Both sides are the same. No difference. It’s part of the reason we’re fucked.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    The left shits in Trump for being an asshole to people thst do things he doesn’t like or decisions he doesn’t agree with. They call him a dictator when wh fires people.

    they are right.

    And the extreme left is the same.
    biden canned the bls commissioner when the jobs numbers were adjusted downward?
    Biden the extreme left?  Nah.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,815
    I should have been more clear. I was attempting to be by using extreme left. I’m not taking about the vast majority of the Democrats in Congress etc. Nor even likely the majority of people that think about voting Democrat.  Truly thinking about the extreme left general population….they throw people away as soon as they don’t fall in line with their beliefs 100% like MAGA does.  Look at everyone talking about Bill Maher now. 

    I always said he was an egomaniac only cared about himself. People here loved him for speaking the “truth”. Now he is saying what they don’t like….and boom….cancel culture. I’m sick of the all or none, I’ve had to ignore so much to vote for Hillary, Joe and Kamala…others should be able to disagree agreeably…or whatever 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Still love Bill Maher...
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  • Lerxst1992
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    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    stop saying ridiculous stuff to raise ire

    22 nation Arab league has said it’s time for Hamas to go. I’ve not heard that opinion here.


    do you see your bias? Do you see the comments I am replying to? 

    You don’t attack those points, do you? They’re posted a hundred times a day here, fact free. AI and facts get mocked here. . I post a few comments, a tiny percentage to balance the hype,  and people get upset their safe space is invaded. The dem party has turned into maga left. That’s the real issue here.
    There you go again making shit up. Who here has said Hamas needs to stay in Gaza or shows good leadership. No one. Hamas is bad oct 7 was terrible what is happening to Palestinians is awful

    Hamas propoganda is spread on this forum seven days a week. But who do folks cry about? A centrist wanting Dems to be competitive and answer for their lies.
    What Hamas propaganda is being spread daily? What lies are Dems telling?  Is the state of Israel destroying the Palestinian people, culture and ancestral homeland? 




    Why are they so in love with the g word here and in extremes of dem party… that is being used for a people whose population has been growing for the 70 year-duration of that propaganda campaign? While their enemy’s population is inexplicably diminished?

    “Well since it didn’t happen at the time period I designate, that genocide doesn’t count. The entirety of North America is settled upon a layer of genocide… that doesn’t count. Only the crimes between 1948 and now count, in this specific location.” That’s the propaganda pretzel you support. The road to peace is to understand the complexity of this problem and negotiate peace, something that Palestine has never supported.

    so people like Hamas forget their enemy has an ancestral stake to the disputed lands (that existed before their religion was founded) and are undeniably the victims of thousands of years of genocide? Unless you are able to locate those two hundred million people thriving in Israel today?

    propaganda works best when people don’t even realize it’s being used on them. Go…find those people. Help us.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,539
    cincybearcat said:
    I should have been more clear. I was attempting to be by using extreme left. I’m not taking about the vast majority of the Democrats in Congress etc. Nor even likely the majority of people that think about voting Democrat.  Truly thinking about the extreme left general population….they throw people away as soon as they don’t fall in line with their beliefs 100% like MAGA does.  Look at everyone talking about Bill Maher now. 

    I always said he was an egomaniac only cared about himself. People here loved him for speaking the “truth”. Now he is saying what they don’t like….and boom….cancel culture. I’m sick of the all or none, I’ve had to ignore so much to vote for Hillary, Joe and Kamala…others should be able to disagree agreeably…or whatever 
    Not sure who the “people here” are, but aren’t you just seeing people disagreeing with him, which is what you’re requesting? 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,013
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    stop saying ridiculous stuff to raise ire

    22 nation Arab league has said it’s time for Hamas to go. I’ve not heard that opinion here.


    do you see your bias? Do you see the comments I am replying to? 

    You don’t attack those points, do you? They’re posted a hundred times a day here, fact free. AI and facts get mocked here. . I post a few comments, a tiny percentage to balance the hype,  and people get upset their safe space is invaded. The dem party has turned into maga left. That’s the real issue here.
    There you go again making shit up. Who here has said Hamas needs to stay in Gaza or shows good leadership. No one. Hamas is bad oct 7 was terrible what is happening to Palestinians is awful

    Hamas propoganda is spread on this forum seven days a week. But who do folks cry about? A centrist wanting Dems to be competitive and answer for their lies.
    What Hamas propaganda is being spread daily? What lies are Dems telling?  Is the state of Israel destroying the Palestinian people, culture and ancestral homeland? 




    Why are they so in love with the g word here and in extremes of dem party… that is being used for a people whose population has been growing for the 70 year-duration of that propaganda campaign? While their enemy’s population is inexplicably diminished?

    “Well since it didn’t happen at the time period I designate, that genocide doesn’t count. The entirety of North America is settled upon a layer of genocide… that doesn’t count. Only the crimes between 1948 and now count, in this specific location.” That’s the propaganda pretzel you support. The road to peace is to understand the complexity of this problem and negotiate peace, something that Palestine has never supported.

    so people like Hamas forget their enemy has an ancestral stake to the disputed lands (that existed before their religion was founded) and are undeniably the victims of thousands of years of genocide? Unless you are able to locate those two hundred million people thriving in Israel today?

    propaganda works best when people don’t even realize it’s being used on them. Go…find those people. Help us.
    There is an Israeli initiated and supported genocide happening right now in Gaza against the Palestinians. Full stop. No amount of your lame ass explanations of why it doesn’t matter will erase that. You’re pro genocide. SHAMEFUL and DISGUSTING.
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  • mickeyrat
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    belongs in severall threads but will put here as the latest controversy about whats really a local election....

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,013
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    stop saying ridiculous stuff to raise ire

    22 nation Arab league has said it’s time for Hamas to go. I’ve not heard that opinion here.


    do you see your bias? Do you see the comments I am replying to? 

    You don’t attack those points, do you? They’re posted a hundred times a day here, fact free. AI and facts get mocked here. . I post a few comments, a tiny percentage to balance the hype,  and people get upset their safe space is invaded. The dem party has turned into maga left. That’s the real issue here.
    There you go again making shit up. Who here has said Hamas needs to stay in Gaza or shows good leadership. No one. Hamas is bad oct 7 was terrible what is happening to Palestinians is awful

    Hamas propoganda is spread on this forum seven days a week. But who do folks cry about? A centrist wanting Dems to be competitive and answer for their lies.
    What Hamas propaganda is being spread daily? What lies are Dems telling?  Is the state of Israel destroying the Palestinian people, culture and ancestral homeland? 




    Why are they so in love with the g word here and in extremes of dem party… that is being used for a people whose population has been growing for the 70 year-duration of that propaganda campaign? While their enemy’s population is inexplicably diminished?

    “Well since it didn’t happen at the time period I designate, that genocide doesn’t count. The entirety of North America is settled upon a layer of genocide… that doesn’t count. Only the crimes between 1948 and now count, in this specific location.” That’s the propaganda pretzel you support. The road to peace is to understand the complexity of this problem and negotiate peace, something that Palestine has never supported.

    so people like Hamas forget their enemy has an ancestral stake to the disputed lands (that existed before their religion was founded) and are undeniably the victims of thousands of years of genocide? Unless you are able to locate those two hundred million people thriving in Israel today?

    propaganda works best when people don’t even realize it’s being used on them. Go…find those people. Help us.
    To the first bold, this is what AI told me:

    AI Overview
    This sounds like you're describing a specific propaganda campaign, likely related to a conflict where one side is accused of using a narrative of victimhood while their population is actually increasing, and simultaneously portraying the opposing side as diminished, which may not be accurate. This is a common tactic in propaganda, where narratives are manipulated to create a desired public perception of a conflict. 
    Here's a breakdown of the elements: 
    • Narrative of Victimhood:
      One side is portrayed as the victim, often facing existential threats or suffering great losses, even if their population numbers don't reflect this. 
    • Population Growth:
      While the narrative of victimhood is being pushed, their population may be growing, or at least not diminishing as suggested. 
    • Diminished Enemy:
      The opposing side's population may be exaggerated as being smaller than it is, or their losses may be emphasized, to further highlight the victimhood narrative. 
    • Propaganda Campaign:
      This entire narrative is being actively promoted to shape public opinion and garner support. 
    This kind of manipulation is often seen in conflicts where there is a strong emotional component. It's designed to rally support for one side and demonize the other, often regardless of the actual facts on the ground. 
    If you have a specific conflict in mind, providing more details would help in analyzing the propaganda techniques being used.

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