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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,046
    benjs said:
    Just realized I was called “no different than trump”. By the whiner who keeps crying about personal attacks. 

    Hahahaha

    if you have views that are so righteous why do you consistently make it personal? Set up a new ID and post moderate or slightly conservative views on a few topics. enjoy the replies you receive. personal attacks and straw man arguments yes that’s 100% maga playbook. And to think it’s funny, that’s where the humor lies.

    My two main conservative views are DEI is a form of reverse racism and United States does not support terrorist organizations, for that I get mocked with absurdities like child molestation. These were perfectly liberal views ten years ago. And to get Blamed for the needless deaths the Middle East, when that’s Palestinians doing nothing more than harming themselves, had they not invaded a sovereign nation This bloodshed would not have occurred.
    It's not a foregone conclusion that DEI initiatives are a form of reverse racism.

    On the Middle East, I don't know what can be said anymore other than that the conversation now is the same one that's been had before, and will be had again. People keep putting the same ingredients in and expecting other results. Is this cycle of causality incorrect?

    Palestinians are dissatisfied with their lives in Gaza + Hamas has a rule over Palestinians ->
    World criticizes Israel's participation in the worsening of Palestinian lives ->
    Hamas wants to capitalize on global outcry and is responsible for a terrorist event in Israel ->
    Israel responds in a way disproportionate to the offence with permanent damage to infrastructure + Hamas cowardly hide behind the population ->
    Hamas is weakened, promises peace ->
    Palestinians are more dissatisfied with their lives in Gaza + Hamas has a rule over Palestinians (repeat chorus)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eq1m2s3rzE&ab_channel=NittyGrittyDirtBand-Topic

    dammit man. to the fucking point....
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,813
    edited March 30
    Do you have a link supporting that THAT is the case more often than not? Because to me that sounds like very specific incident. 

    Again, DEI policy is just being cognizant that disparities exist in the workplace and is an effort to try to overcome that, while still hiring the best candidate. Quotas are an entirely different issue. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,915
    Personally the “reverse racism” argument falls flat when the one aspect of the culture that is so overwhelmingly dominant is the one claiming it, as they were the ones who set up the systemic hurdles keeping women and people of color from these roles (among everything else). I mean, it’s just a form of punching down.

    I get that you have some anecdotal evidence of DEI unfairly affecting some folk, but without DEI initiatives I’m sure there are more folks with anecdotal evidence about being unfairly affected. 


    You are making things up to support racist policies that significantly hurt democrats more than anything else at the polls. “Anecdotally “ it would be 100% better for companies to use budget as a stated reason for layoffs instead of a contrived fabricated process making it appear as if it’s performance related (which makes it damaging to the victims) while execs unrelated to the day to day overrule local managers then separately brag about a diverse workforce to the media. If it’s performance related, how would the execs even know if they are overriding existing performance documentation?
    how in the hell is describing systemic racism facts and history "making things up"?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,750
    Just realized I was called “no different than trump”. By the whiner who keeps crying about personal attacks. 

    Hahahaha

    if you have views that are so righteous why do you consistently make it personal? Set up a new ID and post moderate or slightly conservative views on a few topics. enjoy the replies you receive. personal attacks and straw man arguments yes that’s 100% maga playbook. And to think it’s funny, that’s where the humor lies.

    My two main conservative views are DEI is a form of reverse racism and United States does not support terrorist organizations, for that I get mocked with absurdities like child molestation. These were perfectly liberal views ten years ago. And to get Blamed for the needless deaths the Middle East, when that’s Palestinians doing nothing more than harming themselves, had they not invaded a sovereign nation This bloodshed would not have occurred.
    What are you worried about for fucks sake? Elongitaint is going to fix everything COOTWH is right about. Chillax.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,750
    And I thought courts existed for a reason? What’s stopping your victims from seeking redress?
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    The anti-DEI crusade is about cementing white male dominance
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    As with “CRT,” the MAGA censors, thought police (aimed at rooting out “improper ideology”), Great Replacement paranoids, and outright bigots cannot tell us precisely what “DEI” is—they merely know they are dead set against it. Teaching children to hate America. Making whites feel guilty. Quotas. None of that resembles the “DEI” practices utilized by universities, employers, researchers, and government entities—but that’s irrelevant to them.

    Nuanced concepts (e.g., outreach to recruit Americans of all backgrounds, medical trials to ensure women’s physiology is taken into account) do not appeal to people who think Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick epitomize “merit.”

    Increasingly “DEI” in the MAGA dictionary has come to mean “Blacks” or “women” or “a convenient scapegoat who represents the ‘other.’” A plane goes down? DEI. A museum pays tribute to the greatness of Jackie Robinson? DEI.


    Increasingly, the anti-DEI mission has become an explicit attempt to blame or erase non-whites, females, and other disenfranchised groups. Remember when they used to oppose “canceling” people and policing speech? MAGA ideologues no longer hide their core belief: that white men are inherently qualified, the “true” history of America has been made by white males, and non-white men are to blame for all calamities.

    But the MAGA obsession with eradicating “DEI” is downright ludicrous. In their zeal to Make America White Again, the Trump word police went after the Smithsonian and the National Zoo. “The zoo boasts prominently on its website that it has ‘more than 2,200 animals representing almost 400 different species,’” Dana Milbank pointed out. “Could there be a more brazen embrace of DEI?”

    It is impossible to disguise the anti-intellectual, anti-truth, and anti-American bent of the anti-DEI fanatics. The National Park Service webpage no longer features Harriet Tubman nor extols the Underground Railroad, “the resistance to enslavement through escape and flight, through the end of the Civil War.” The website has scrubbed any reference “to the efforts of enslaved African Americans to gain their freedom by escaping bondage.” Instead, we get a celebration of “American ideals of liberty and freedom,” CNN reports, without any explicit mention of slavery. American history without slavery—how convenient!

    The ham-handed effort to bolster white advantage cannot conceal its real intent: To resegregate government and elite institutions. To take us back in time. Donald Trump’s repeal of LBJ’s Executive Order 11375 gave away the game.

    “LBJ’s order gave the Secretary of Labor the authority to ensure equal opportunity for people of color and women in federal contractors’ recruitment, hiring, training and other employment practices,” Axios explained. “It required federal contractors to refrain from employment discrimination and take affirmative action to ensure equal opportunity ‘based on race, color, religion, and national origin.’”

    Can’t have that!

    At times, the anti-DEI crusade seems aimed to repeal the fundamental statutory and constitutional protections that prohibit discrimination and give meaning to “All men are created equal.” After all, if the MAGA crowd really wanted to root out unfairness and promote merit they would insist we reject unqualified white appointees and dump legacy admissions at colleges and universities schools. Instead, the anti-DEI crusade aims to bolster white entitlement and eradicate any sense of obligation to right society’s wrongs.

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    In barring the collection of data that would reveal racial, ethnic, religious, and/or gender discrimination, the MAGA forces implicitly allow it to go undetected. “Systemic inequalities plague the health care landscape across race, gender, geography, socioeconomic status, and education levels,” the American Journal of Managed Care explained. “These issues are systemic and largely result from policies like redlining in mortgage lending, transportation and housing policies, and criminal sentencing.” In other words, “Implementing DEI policies and training in health care has allowed providers to become more aware of the need to develop their cultural competency skills to adequately serve growing patient populations and health disparities among various populations.”

    If we cease to collect maternal and infant mortality data by race, the disproportionate deaths of Black women and infants will go undetected, and the causes of the disparities unaddressed.

    For the MAGA gang, the problem seems to be the attempt to uncover, quantify, and remedy discrimination, not the discrimination itself. We cannot measure or correct what we do not know. By banning language and data collection (including medical trials, crime statistics, educational outcomes, etc.), that reference to prejudice based on race and/or gender goes unchecked.

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    Let’s get real. The entire “DEI” search and destroy mission is a canard. “DEI” has lost all meaning. The MAGA gang is not seeking to undo unfair practices—but to give license to discrimination, elevate white victimhood, erase non-whites’ place and invaluable role in American history, and cement disadvantages we have never truly removed. If they actually explained why they opposed diversity, equity, and inclusion, few Americans would tolerate their effort to arrest social, political, and economic progress. When they oppose DEI, they are telling us they support homogeneity, inequity, and exclusion (as former transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg pointed out).

    Since DEI’s meaning has been so obscured, the rest of us should, under this sham administration, stop using “DEI” to describe what is simply adherence to anti-discrimination regulations, laws, and constitutional provisions—which require we measure, understand, and address discrimination. And let’s call the anti-DEI fetish what it is: A blatant attempt to whitewash American history and solidify historical disadvantages that white supremacists resent giving up.

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,292
    firing people based on skin color is unamerican and wrong. Provide billions for education and training, ok do that.

    for those confused why what is illegal on college admissions but still occurs in corporations, finding  the truth is simple, google eeoc $ limits. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,915

    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,915

    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,915
    stolen from facebook: "Hegseth and Kennedy are what you get when DEI isn't part of your hiring process". Haha, so true. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,750
    An Atlantic piece on Rogan’s podcast and the anti-wokeness movement. Very telling and indicative of why Rogan can go fuck himself. Spewing garbage.

    https://apple.news/ADEkPfyr0S0G7UWsPpXXlBg


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,750
    An Atlantic piece on Rogan’s podcast and the anti-wokeness movement. Very telling and indicative of why Rogan can go fuck himself. Spewing garbage.

    https://apple.news/ADEkPfyr0S0G7UWsPpXXlBg


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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,292
    An Atlantic piece on Rogan’s podcast and the anti-wokeness movement. Very telling and indicative of why Rogan can go fuck himself. Spewing garbage.

    https://apple.news/ADEkPfyr0S0G7UWsPpXXlBg



    Although I agree and do not like Rogan what is this... another childish attack with no substance? What garbage is that curse out for?

     At least Rogan has both sides of  controversial issues, unlike this place, which is so woke it only tolerates one side of complex issues

    And yeah, they complain about diversity in the article but only one side gets to have a voice in its worldview. Let's satire... "We think these people should be hired and these other people should be fired based on their diversity or lack thereof." Nice worldview 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,750
    edited April 25
    An Atlantic piece on Rogan’s podcast and the anti-wokeness movement. Very telling and indicative of why Rogan can go fuck himself. Spewing garbage.

    https://apple.news/ADEkPfyr0S0G7UWsPpXXlBg



    Although I agree and do not like Rogan what is this... another childish attack with no substance? What garbage is that curse out for?

     At least Rogan has both sides of  controversial issues, unlike this place, which is so woke it only tolerates one side of complex issues

    And yeah, they complain about diversity in the article but only one side gets to have a voice in its worldview. Let's satire... "We think these people should be hired and these other people should be fired based on their diversity or lack thereof." Nice worldview 
    You clearly missed the point of the article. But you do you, eh?

    Edit: to include wait for it, “I’ve been attacked!”
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,813
    Lex, you need to define what "Woke" is for us. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,292
    An Atlantic piece on Rogan’s podcast and the anti-wokeness movement. Very telling and indicative of why Rogan can go fuck himself. Spewing garbage.

    https://apple.news/ADEkPfyr0S0G7UWsPpXXlBg



    Although I agree and do not like Rogan what is this... another childish attack with no substance? What garbage is that curse out for?

     At least Rogan has both sides of  controversial issues, unlike this place, which is so woke it only tolerates one side of complex issues

    And yeah, they complain about diversity in the article but only one side gets to have a voice in its worldview. Let's satire... "We think these people should be hired and these other people should be fired based on their diversity or lack thereof." Nice worldview 
    You clearly missed the point of the article. But you do you, eh?

    Edit: to include wait for it, “I’ve been attacked!”

    Only for those who repeatedly like to curse and use profanity in their neverending putdowns of comments they disagree with, which I don't think is you. Maybe?

     Like differing opinions are some sort of crime. Instead of discussing opposing viewpoints to find reason in the middle. LOL to the regulars here. I read the article and stand by my comment. You do you as well
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,292
    Lex, you need to define what "Woke" is for us. 
    Well we can resurrect The rarely appearing Tempo n Groove who provided a complete definition in his OP? 

    Regarding this place... that Fox News article I just posted is perfect. "Dark woke," that summarizes a lot of commenters here. But I don't think you. You will at least make a reasonable attempt to find something in the middle?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,813
    edited April 25
    Dark Woke isn't a thing (Especially since Fox News isn't being intellectually honest about what "woke" is - "Woke" to them is just code for "liberals" and things that conservatives don't like). What they want to say is people are pissed off and dicks about things. Which I see as a response to a conservative movement to be cruel and dicks to people that they don't like which is genuinely threatening people to say nothing about the tenants of our democracy. 



    I think pulling back, and taking a look at why you think “wokeness” exists (in dark form or its standard) may cause some clarification for all parties posting here. at the very least, it may help to refocus the conversation.
     

     


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,750
    An Atlantic piece on Rogan’s podcast and the anti-wokeness movement. Very telling and indicative of why Rogan can go fuck himself. Spewing garbage.

    https://apple.news/ADEkPfyr0S0G7UWsPpXXlBg



    Although I agree and do not like Rogan what is this... another childish attack with no substance? What garbage is that curse out for?

     At least Rogan has both sides of  controversial issues, unlike this place, which is so woke it only tolerates one side of complex issues

    And yeah, they complain about diversity in the article but only one side gets to have a voice in its worldview. Let's satire... "We think these people should be hired and these other people should be fired based on their diversity or lack thereof." Nice worldview 
    You clearly missed the point of the article. But you do you, eh?

    Edit: to include wait for it, “I’ve been attacked!”

    Only for those who repeatedly like to curse and use profanity in their neverending putdowns of comments they disagree with, which I don't think is you. Maybe?

     Like differing opinions are some sort of crime. Instead of discussing opposing viewpoints to find reason in the middle. LOL to the regulars here. I read the article and stand by my comment. You do you as well
    Guess you were referring to yourself there, eh? Like COOTWH, every projection is an admission.

    And since it was lost on you, some differing viewpoints on certain subject matter with expert opinion and experience versus “woke” subject matter with an “expert” on one side of the argument and a comedian on the other “woke” side. Is that how you “find ‘reason’ in the middle?”
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,750
    “Dark woke.” Is that like sleeping in the dark with your eyes open or is it more like sleeping with your eyes closed and with the lights on? “Dark woke.” Maybe we should just abbreviate it to DarWok or better yet, DaWo? Or DW, anyone?
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,813
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    I think if anyone pushes back on woke without considerations as to why people are upset, don’t really get it and their concerns are unfounded. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,046
    Merriam-Webster's updated entry to better describe the idea, as opposed to the op provided definition,  which is entry 2 in this particular listing...



    woke
    1 of 2
    adjective
    ˈwōk
    woker; wokest
    Synonyms of woke
    chiefly US slang
    1
    a
    : aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)
    But we will only succeed if we reject the growing pressure to retreat into cynicism and hopelessness. … We have a moral obligation to "stay woke," take a stand and be active; challenging injustices and racism in our communities and fighting hatred and discrimination wherever it rises.—
    Barbara Lee
    … argued that … Brad Pitt is not only woke, but the wokest man in Hollywood … because he uses his status—and his production company Plan B—to create space for artists of color, with such films as 12 Years a Slave, Selma, and the upcoming film Moonlight.—
    Giselle Defares
    Being woke to gender discrimination is difficult; it ruins things you love. Entire canons of art are rotten to the core with it.—
    Rachel Edelstein
    —often used in contexts that suggest someone's expressed beliefs about such matters are not backed with genuine concern or action
    There is never really a moment where a person of color doesn't have to deal with discrimination, whether it be veiled and passive or as blunt as possible. So, woke white people, why can't you step in?—
    Lauren Sanchez
    Enter the age of the performatively woke brand. Politics has become a kind of fashion accessory for corporate America these days, a way to profit from protest.—
    Jon Gingerich
    "Fake woke" behavior arises. We put the hashtags on our social media. #Sayhername, #icantbreathe, #blacklivesmatter. And repeat. The problem is that the level of concern we express online doesn't match the everyday behavior we exhibit.—
    Surayya Walters
    b
    : reflecting the attitudes of woke people
    woke values/language
    In our newly woke times, there has been increased scrutiny of old films dealing with sensitive subjects.—
    Hannah Jane Parkinson
    He wants to make The Wombles more "woke" so the characters are gender-fluid or of different races.—
    Liz Perkins
    2
    disapproving : politically liberal or progressive (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme
    The national conservatives view today's liberals as woke cultural warriors who pose an existential threat to the nation and its traditions.—
    Shadi Hamid
    He's built a social media brand on the right railing against "woke liberals" and supporting former President Donald Trump.—
    Marissa Martinez
    The military is struggling to find new recruits to fill its ranks. … While the official reasons given by the military—including fewer face-to-face recruitments during the pandemic, and fewer young people who meet the physical standards required—likely play a role, some say it's because the military is too "woke," turning off its normal constituency of young, conservative recruits.—
    Suzanne Bates
    If there is any hope, it's that voters are rejecting woke green goals. Already this has occurred in Sweden and Italy, where voters threw out left-wing governments …—
    Michael Shellenberger
    'Woke capitalism' tends to be a term that critics use to refer to … portfolios that are built around environmental, social and governance issues like climate change or diversity.—
    Victor Reklaitis
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,058
    Waking up is one thing.  Taking action, giving or even sacrificing something of yourself, that's a whole goddamn other thing. Aren't we sick of all this talk yet?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,915
    the right has made woke a pejorative just like they use progressive in the same way. I guess progress stinks. Evolution is crap. We should have all stayed apes. Let's all keep the status quo cuz everything is awesome!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,915
    I seriously have no time for anyone who is either ignorant of the true definition or think it's a bad thing. Oh, wait, maybe I am still obligated to "come to the table/reach across the aisle" with troglodytes/bigots/racists/misogynists? No thanks. 

    I'm guessing replies will consist of "this is what's wrong with libruls!!! GRRRRR". Have at er. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,058
    the right has made woke a pejorative just like they use progressive in the same way. I guess progress stinks. Evolution is crap. We should have all stayed apes. Let's all keep the status quo cuz everything is awesome!

    The far right is all about breaking things without a viable plan to rebuild.  They don't even have any regard for the planet that sustains and gives life.  That's like loosening all the lug nuts on all four wheels, leaving the oil pan plug a half turn from falling out, and redlining the vehicle with the pedal to the metal for as long as you can, simply because someone you don't like said it's best to do otherwise.  Their contrariness grows wearisome.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,292
    brianlux said:
    the right has made woke a pejorative just like they use progressive in the same way. I guess progress stinks. Evolution is crap. We should have all stayed apes. Let's all keep the status quo cuz everything is awesome!

    The far right is all about breaking things without a viable plan to rebuild.  They don't even have any regard for the planet that sustains and gives life.  That's like loosening all the lug nuts on all four wheels, leaving the oil pan plug a half turn from falling out, and redlining the vehicle with the pedal to the metal for as long as you can, simply because someone you don't like said it's best to do otherwise.  Their contrariness grows wearisome.

    And if democrats don’t give voters a reasonable option, Rs will continue with their stranglehold on the senate and SCOTUS. The Biden admin had a huge hand turning nyc to shit in an election year, were dishonest about it. Then hid his terrible condition until that debate, then waited a month, then installed Kamala as nominee without a vote. Who decided best to run on the extreme and use Hilary’s “trump is evil” failed campaign strategy. And continually lie about all this, so their minions have no clue. Yes trump is evil, but dems are assholes. And stupid general election campaigners. Thank goodness for Covid 2020 helping Biden.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,813
    She didn’t run to the extreme though. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,813
    You talk to any progressive person, they were NOT excited about Kamala because she offered them nothing but NOT TRUMP.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,292
    She was afraid to take stands on key issues because she was afraid of the bullies on the far left. Her biggest downfall of course was, not coming up with a good attack against trump for inflation and accuse him breaking the supply chain, and instead ran with the proven loser “trump is evil” campaign.  Which is happening yet again. Far left foot…meet rake….and step. 
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