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Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

Deleted two long posts originally with evidence supporting harmful DEI practices. It’s wasted on these pages with an audience crying about maga evils when in fact aren’t all that different when evils caused by their ideologies are presented.

W in T actual F? Good lord.

Again, how many cards in that deck?

Tim Simmons

MAGA and progressive liberalism are definitely the same /s

HughFreakingDillon

If DEI is being used as a vehicle for discrimination, DEI isn’t to blame; the abusers are. MAGA wasn’t hijacked and abused- MAGA is inherently evil in concept and delivery. DEI obviously isn’t. 

It’s always privileged white people that whine when their privilege is challenged or removed. 

WAH

brianlux

Tim Simmons said:

MAGA and progressive liberalism are definitely the same /s

I like this kind of logic.   I mean, look, AOC and Trump have very similar priorities, so that alone indicates the closeness of MAGA and progressive liberal ideologies. 

Which leads me to wonder what will be the next alternate-reality topic we will cover here?

Tim Simmons

To be clear Brian, you know /s means sarcasm 

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

If DEI is being used as a vehicle for discrimination, DEI isn’t to blame; the abusers are. MAGA wasn’t hijacked and abused- MAGA is inherently evil in concept and delivery. DEI obviously isn’t. 

It’s always privileged white people that whine when their privilege is challenged or removed. 

WAH

What the actual fuck. Feeding their families is not a privilege. Managers getting overridden on personnel decisions by executive leadership that has zero clue of day to day activities, while bragging about DEI initiatives to the public.

Talented people are getting fired for no reason and I am fuxkjng telling you there is significant evidence decisions are race based. But you know better because your ideas tell you so. You are no different than maga.

It’s great to be the smartest in the room. No, it can’t possibly your liberal racist views to blame.

This place is a liberal cesspool.

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

MAGA and progressive liberalism are definitely the same /s

Take a clear look at the post after yours. Absolutely racist supporting comment. I can’t be right because I am speaking against liberal dogma.

You cannot accept something against your beliefs might be true, better to make sarcastic personal attack than question your perception of right vs wrong.

hope it’s comfy in your safe space.

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

If DEI is being used as a vehicle for discrimination, DEI isn’t to blame; the abusers are. MAGA wasn’t hijacked and abused- MAGA is inherently evil in concept and delivery. DEI obviously isn’t. 

It’s always privileged white people that whine when their privilege is challenged or removed. 

WAH

What the actual fuck. Feeding their families is not a privilege. Managers getting overridden on personnel decisions by executive leadership that has zero clue of day to day activities, while bragging about DEI initiatives to the public.

Talented people are getting fired for no reason and I am fuxkjng telling you there is significant evidence decisions are race based. But you know better because your ideas tell you so. You are no different than maga.

It’s great to be the smartest in the room. No, it can’t possibly your liberal racist views to blame.

This place is a liberal cesspool.

uh, did you read? I said if it's being abused, yeah, THAT'S A PROBLEM. Try comprehension for once. Jeezus. But you refuse to actually read what people write because you just have this insatiable need to be right and a victim. 

so, let me get this straight...wanting everyone to be treated equally, in spite of their race, which is what DEI really is, is racist?

hmmm...sounds like maga logic. 

if talented people are being fired for no reason, that's a shitty executive/management team, not DEI. Just cuz someone says it's DEI, doesn't mean it is. It means they are abusing power and labelling it something it's not. And you're falling for it.

HughFreakingDillon

guess someone's worried about being replaced?

Lerxst1992

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGA and progressive liberalism are definitely the same /s

I like this kind of logic.   I mean, look, AOC and Trump have very similar priorities, so that alone indicates the closeness of MAGA and progressive liberal ideologies. 

Which leads me to wonder what will be the next alternate-reality topic we will cover here?

 Bri, we have a long history of agreeing about policy, unfortunately 2 recent modifications in the last few years to democratic dogma…racist DEI policies and supporting Hamas ….is where I draw the line.

i posted factual information about how some in my personal circle suffered harm from DEI policies, and zero posters have engaged intellectually, and I get mocked for sharing facts. That one poster endlessly personally attacks almost every post, while never considering facts that his world view may not be correct on this topic. How is he and this place any different than trump?

HughFreakingDillon

disagreement = personal attack. keeps mocking others for their so-called safe space. you can't make this shit up. 

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGA and progressive liberalism are definitely the same /s

I like this kind of logic.   I mean, look, AOC and Trump have very similar priorities, so that alone indicates the closeness of MAGA and progressive liberal ideologies. 

Which leads me to wonder what will be the next alternate-reality topic we will cover here?

 Bri, we have a long history of agreeing about policy, unfortunately 2 recent modifications in the last few years to democratic dogma…racist DEI policies and supporting Hamas ….is where I draw the line.

i posted factual information about how some in my personal circle suffered harm from DEI policies, and zero posters have engaged intellectually, and I get mocked for sharing facts. That one poster endlessly personally attacks almost every post, while never considering facts that his world view may not be correct on this topic. How is he and this place any different than trump?

what factual information? the "two longs posts" you deleted cuz we wouldn't get it?

Halifax2TheMax

Where are the headlines and the court cases of this overwhelming number of racist DEI firings? Where are these multitudes of white people, I’m assuming white people, who are being denied or losing jobs because of their race?

”Feeding their families is not a privilege?” What the fuck is that statement doing in there?

HughFreakingDillon

a director of finance and the president both got fired at my company in the same week pretty recently.

must be DEI. had nothing to do with the company's direction/performance. couldn't be. 

when you have someone blaming democrats for russia invading Ukraine, nothing can really be taken seriously. 

benjs

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

If DEI is being used as a vehicle for discrimination, DEI isn’t to blame; the abusers are. MAGA wasn’t hijacked and abused- MAGA is inherently evil in concept and delivery. DEI obviously isn’t. 

It’s always privileged white people that whine when their privilege is challenged or removed. 

WAH

What the actual fuck. Feeding their families is not a privilege. Managers getting overridden on personnel decisions by executive leadership that has zero clue of day to day activities, while bragging about DEI initiatives to the public.

Talented people are getting fired for no reason and I am fuxkjng telling you there is significant evidence decisions are race based. But you know better because your ideas tell you so. You are no different than maga.

It’s great to be the smartest in the room. No, it can’t possibly your liberal racist views to blame.

This place is a liberal cesspool.

If I and a DEI candidate were up for the same job, and found to be equally qualified - I'd be fine with the DEI candidate getting it. If I was found to be more qualified, but the DEI candidate got it - that's inappropriate in my opinion. Similarly, if I was found to be less qualified, but I got the job - that's inappropriate. 

DEI should be about equality in opportunity, not a replacement for merit-based decisions. You seem to feel that that's happening (DEI being favoured over merit-based decisions). The extreme liberal stance might be that the mitigation of race-based hiring/firing decision is important enough that the exploitation by some is worth ignoring. Is there not room for an in-between, recognizing that DEI is a double-edged sword - acknowledging the necessity of the mission, but recognizing that it has room for exploitation that must be addressed, and actually putting those efforts in? 

HughFreakingDillon

benjs said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

If DEI is being used as a vehicle for discrimination, DEI isn’t to blame; the abusers are. MAGA wasn’t hijacked and abused- MAGA is inherently evil in concept and delivery. DEI obviously isn’t. 

It’s always privileged white people that whine when their privilege is challenged or removed. 

WAH

What the actual fuck. Feeding their families is not a privilege. Managers getting overridden on personnel decisions by executive leadership that has zero clue of day to day activities, while bragging about DEI initiatives to the public.

Talented people are getting fired for no reason and I am fuxkjng telling you there is significant evidence decisions are race based. But you know better because your ideas tell you so. You are no different than maga.

It’s great to be the smartest in the room. No, it can’t possibly your liberal racist views to blame.

This place is a liberal cesspool.

If I and a DEI candidate were up for the same job, and found to be equally qualified - I'd be fine with the DEI candidate getting it. If I was found to be more qualified, but the DEI candidate got it - that's inappropriate in my opinion. Similarly, if I was found to be less qualified, but I got the job - that's inappropriate. 

DEI should be about equality in opportunity, not a replacement for merit-based decisions. You seem to feel that that's happening (DEI being favoured over merit-based decisions). The extreme liberal stance might be that the mitigation of race-based hiring/firing decision is important enough that the exploitation by some is worth ignoring. Is there not room for an in-between, recognizing that DEI is a double-edged sword - acknowledging the necessity of the mission, but recognizing that it has room for exploitation that must be addressed, and actually putting those efforts in? 

what this guy said (as always, way more eloquently than I did)

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGA and progressive liberalism are definitely the same /s

I like this kind of logic.   I mean, look, AOC and Trump have very similar priorities, so that alone indicates the closeness of MAGA and progressive liberal ideologies. 

Which leads me to wonder what will be the next alternate-reality topic we will cover here?

 Bri, we have a long history of agreeing about policy, unfortunately 2 recent modifications in the last few years to democratic dogma…racist DEI policies and supporting Hamas ….is where I draw the line.

i posted factual information about how some in my personal circle suffered harm from DEI policies, and zero posters have engaged intellectually, and I get mocked for sharing facts. That one poster endlessly personally attacks almost every post, while never considering facts that his world view may not be correct on this topic. How is he and this place any different than trump?

what factual information? the "two longs posts" you deleted cuz we wouldn't get it?

To make assumptions the other side is lying, and always reply with attacks, that’s trumps playbook, and it’s done here endlessly.

Why should I post documentation supporting factual information, am I lying ? If my comments aren’t trusted neither would the support provided. Geez, one of the faithful even went to the lengths of mocking me by mocking molestation to personally attack. I am not posting opinions here. I am sharing facts and experiences and not one commenter is capable of considering that I am engaging honestly. I personally know people who have been targeted and harmed by executives bragging to the public of their DEI policies while overriding local managers and established policies on personnel decisions.

these policies can be dangerous and harmful.

Lerxst1992

benjs said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

If DEI is being used as a vehicle for discrimination, DEI isn’t to blame; the abusers are. MAGA wasn’t hijacked and abused- MAGA is inherently evil in concept and delivery. DEI obviously isn’t. 

It’s always privileged white people that whine when their privilege is challenged or removed. 

WAH

What the actual fuck. Feeding their families is not a privilege. Managers getting overridden on personnel decisions by executive leadership that has zero clue of day to day activities, while bragging about DEI initiatives to the public.

Talented people are getting fired for no reason and I am fuxkjng telling you there is significant evidence decisions are race based. But you know better because your ideas tell you so. You are no different than maga.

It’s great to be the smartest in the room. No, it can’t possibly your liberal racist views to blame.

This place is a liberal cesspool.

If I and a DEI candidate were up for the same job, and found to be equally qualified - I'd be fine with the DEI candidate getting it. If I was found to be more qualified, but the DEI candidate got it - that's inappropriate in my opinion. Similarly, if I was found to be less qualified, but I got the job - that's inappropriate. 

DEI should be about equality in opportunity, not a replacement for merit-based decisions. You seem to feel that that's happening (DEI being favoured over merit-based decisions). The extreme liberal stance might be that the mitigation of race-based hiring/firing decision is important enough that the exploitation by some is worth ignoring. Is there not room for an in-between, recognizing that DEI is a double-edged sword - acknowledging the necessity of the mission, but recognizing that it has room for exploitation that must be addressed, and actually putting those efforts in? 

Decisions should be merit or budget based when deciding who to fire.

Halifax2TheMax

“Dangerous”? You mean like Little Hitler Rubio dangerous or BLM-Antiiiiifa dangerous?

Why aren’t the people that you refer to having their day in court and allowing the court to decide that what you claim is true?

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGA and progressive liberalism are definitely the same /s

I like this kind of logic.   I mean, look, AOC and Trump have very similar priorities, so that alone indicates the closeness of MAGA and progressive liberal ideologies. 

Which leads me to wonder what will be the next alternate-reality topic we will cover here?

 Bri, we have a long history of agreeing about policy, unfortunately 2 recent modifications in the last few years to democratic dogma…racist DEI policies and supporting Hamas ….is where I draw the line.

i posted factual information about how some in my personal circle suffered harm from DEI policies, and zero posters have engaged intellectually, and I get mocked for sharing facts. That one poster endlessly personally attacks almost every post, while never considering facts that his world view may not be correct on this topic. How is he and this place any different than trump?

what factual information? the "two longs posts" you deleted cuz we wouldn't get it?

To make assumptions the other side is lying, and always reply with attacks, that’s trumps playbook, and it’s done here endlessly.

Why should I post documentation supporting factual information, am I lying ? If my comments aren’t trusted neither would the support provided. Geez, one of the faithful even went to the lengths of mocking me by mocking molestation to personally attack. I am not posting opinions here. I am sharing facts and experiences and not one commenter is capable of considering that I am engaging honestly. I personally know people who have been targeted and harmed by executives bragging to the public of their DEI policies while overriding local managers and established policies on personnel decisions.

these policies can be dangerous and harmful.

no, I mean I don't know what you're referring to when you say you posted factual information. I looked and didn't see any posts that you are referring to.