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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,799
    benjs said:
    They weren’t baited. They came in being dicks and were eventually banned when they weren’t following the forum rules. they never engaged in good faith discussions and only wanted to gloat and goad liberal posters here. 

    I’m sorry that you get pushback on your positions here and that bothers you. I’m sorry that the kids of today view the world differently than you and are excited about some candidates that speak to them instead of ones that have continually let them down. I’m glad you feel confident that you have all the correct answers and that you are the only one who sees the world the way it really is and literally everyone else here have blinders on and no agency to their beliefs. 

    We have 19 months until the midterms, 3,726 other things are gonna happen before then affecting people’s perceptions of Democrats and Republicans. (We don’t even have the official exit polling from 2024 - Census and Pew haven’t released it yet). We’re all just throwing darts here. 
    I will say, the particularly rude mockery from one side to the other, used to be predominantly from the right-wing, aimed at the left-wing, and now I feel it's pretty much universal. There's more venom on here (and seemingly in the world) than there used to be. I get swept up in it too, and hate when I do. 

    That said, if it's 2025 and you're unsure who has earned your vote, something tells me character is low on your priority list anyways.

    Try taking a centrist position on the forum and see what happens. Some call me maga on here which is absurd. Shows a lack of knowledge about my comments, but it will not stop an attack. As far as Tim’s point, I agree most bans were deserved but some were definitely not. And there is a ton of angry baiting by the leftists here, and they all get away with it, when the right does not. There was one righty reasonable poster, it’s been made clear not to discuss specifics by the mods, but I searched their comment history at their demise, asked the forum if anyone knew why there was a ban based on these comments, and I still don’t know. Only want to know what the limits of the forum are, as someone who gets a ton of heat here for wanting to find the middle among democrats.


    Even a member here I used to believe was extremely reasonable, our friend from cali, targeted me specifically as he is sick of my one man cause. If wanting to find a reasonable middle ground in this toxic political climate is unbearable, that’s most emphatically not on me.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    brianlux said:
    I don't know about the rest of you, but this one guy against the world bullshit here is getting tiresome.  I'm switching cars.  :lol:

    Against this forum bullshit. FTFY.


    because after all the conservatives were baited and baited on here, and then they all got kicked off the forum. Must be them (some of them deserved it, but not all). Must be me. Maher is over the hill and irrelevant. It’s always because someone else is not as good as you. There’s a word for that lol. 

    Damn it if you are not getting your safe space. Better to blame someone else than search for the truth why Dems are getting toxic to the middle. 

    :lol:
    You are so out of touch with things I've said on these forums in recent months, but you keep poking in the wrong places.  I should take this as irritating, but your misguided anger is actually kind of amusing.
    Keep up or carry on, mox nix.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,799
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I don't know about the rest of you, but this one guy against the world bullshit here is getting tiresome.  I'm switching cars.  :lol:

    Against this forum bullshit. FTFY.


    because after all the conservatives were baited and baited on here, and then they all got kicked off the forum. Must be them (some of them deserved it, but not all). Must be me. Maher is over the hill and irrelevant. It’s always because someone else is not as good as you. There’s a word for that lol. 

    Damn it if you are not getting your safe space. Better to blame someone else than search for the truth why Dems are getting toxic to the middle. 

    :lol:
    You are so out of touch with things I've said on these forums in recent months, but you keep poking in the wrong places.  I should take this as irritating, but your misguided anger is actually kind of amusing.
    Keep up or carry on, mox nix.

    I’m replying to your baseless attack and that’s in the wrong place lol? Im taking one small step to the center and you aren’t capable of any goodwill or reflection, other than calling it bs, and thinking you are better than centrists.


    wash post has voters trusting Dems seven points less than trump. Shifty Schiff agrees with checkout person at target dems are assholes. Bill maher is over the hill so he is irrelevant, Chris Matthews also. When Dems get critical of their party they get attacked by the woke. But you expect Rs to stand up to trump? Haha. But it’s all me. Got it lol. Correct topic.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    ...yawn...
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,390

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,304


    perspective of ones life is incredibly important, I have found.
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,304
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    🚨 Wall of Text Warning 🚨



    It’s official — the cringiest Democratic phrase of 2025 is “dark woke.”
    Brat Summer, indeed, is over. No need to hear aging pundits contemplating the nature of Brat and what it all might mean for a British pop star to casually endorse Kamala Harris. Brat, with its bright, irreverent greens, is last year’s aesthetic. Now it’s all about dark woke, which is, if the media coverage is to be believed, all about Democrats cursing.

    “It’s an attempt to step outside the bounds of the political correctness that Republicans have accused Democrats of establishing,” the New York Times recently reported. “And it requires being crass but discerning, rude but only to a point.”

    The rationale is simple: Donald Trump ended political civility as we know it, and it’s time to get tough and be “real.” Some Democrats, like Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett, can adopt the posture with success because it seems authentic enough; they have the natural charisma to capture imaginations. Crockett called Greg Abbott, the wheelchair-bound Republican governor of Texas, “Governor Hot Wheels” and famously clashed with Marjorie Taylor Green, trading insults on the House floor that included the phrase “bleach blonde bad-built butch body.” Crockett is now a liberal darling and even made an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel.

    The general profanity from other Democrats — the growing number of “fucks” and “shits” on the campaign trail and in online messaging — is wearying. Trump doesn’t seem authentic just because he curses occasionally; he retains a certain amount of gravity, even as his popularity slides, because few voters doubt he is the same person onstage that he is when he’s at dinner. There is one Trump, and he is never scripted.

    It’s fine, of course, to have scripts. Trump is a WWE Hall of Famer, and no Democrat should be expected to ape that act. The real trouble with dark woke is that it’s a plainly false, calibrated attempt at gritty authenticity. It doesn’t mean anything or stand for anything. It’s not as if Bernie Sanders, drawing tens of thousands of people to his rallies against oligarchy, ever needs to drop an F-bomb to get his audiences excited. They come out for Sanders because they believe in his politics and vision and know he’s been an honest broker on the political scene for more than 30 years.

    Sanders, unlike Trump, does not lie with impunity. But what he does share with Trump is the sense that he is who he is, regardless of the context or even the era. Profanity can be a political asset if it’s clear that this is how you’d always talk — either in front of a crowd or at home with friends. But it’s awkward and alienating when politicians decide, suddenly, they must dispense with decorum to catch up to Trump or appear, somehow, more prole-like.

    The Democrats might recover somewhat with working-class voters in the short-term because Trump’s return to power has been so destabilizing. Trump is, in the interim, solving some of the Democrats’ messaging problems. But anti-Trump politics, as we learned in the 2010s, will only get a party so far. Democrats will need to figure out how to compete and win in the rural states that have swung so hard to the GOP. Republicans will lock down control of the Senate for the foreseeable future unless Democrats can win again in states where their brand is deeply damaged.

    Can dark woke get the Democrats a Senate seat back in Ohio? What about Montana? Will enough name-calling put the Democrats in the mix in Missouri? It’s unlikely. A tough-talking affect is just that: an affect. It can work for a few politicians, but it’s a loser as a serious strategy for breaking through. Winning House, Senate, or presidential elections will be about policy, culture, and image; Democrats will have to convince the bulk of Americans that they should be trusted to help them live more affordable lives. They’ll have to become a mass party again with a tent large enough to include the voters who believe they lost the plot a long time ago.

    At best, dark woke is a cheap trick. It offers shock value and allows Democrats to think they can suddenly make the Joe Rogan and Theo Von fan bases trust them again. But those kinds of voters — young, male, and politically heterodox — aren’t hunting for garden-variety Democrats who belch out “fuck” and “damn” every once in a while. Two Democrats who did, for a brief period, win them over were never known for their profanities: the aforementioned Sanders and Andrew Yang, who ran for president in 2020 and is no longer a Democrat. Sanders had Medicare for all and free college; Yang backed universal basic income, along with decriminalizing drugs and data-privacy rights. Like Sanders, Yang never seemed too practiced, and he cultivated a following that was drawn to his earnestness. There was nothing to fake. It’s a lesson all the 2028 candidates should take to heart. Find out who you are and be that person.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,809

    You can be both very easily unfortunately.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,202

    You can be both very easily unfortunately.
    Seriously. It’s not one or the other 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    No way is that a wall of text. Nice paragraph breaks and everything. Thanks for posting it. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    Yes, I already hate the term Dark Woke. 
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    No way is that a wall of text. Nice paragraph breaks and everything. Thanks for posting it. 
    Thank you, Tim Simmons! 🫡
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    edited May 2
    Yes, I already hate the term Dark Woke. 

    I'm not a fan of any labels.  Labels are too limiting.  I say, do what makes the most sense and is best for the planet and for humanity, not what some  trendy limiting label instructs you to do and think.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,304
    edited May 4
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,304

    Why George Washington Integrated the Army
    The commander-in-chief initially barred black soldiers from joining the ranks, but he came to understand the value—both moral and strategic—of a diverse force.
    Andrew Lawler
    Jun 16, 2025

    WHEN GEORGE WASHINGTON FORMALLY accepted his appointment as commander-in-chief of the newly created Continental Army on June 16, 1775—250 years ago today—he was the army. No other officers had been commissioned, the new troops that Congress had called up had not yet been assembled, and the thousands of militiamen already fighting in Massachusetts wouldn’t know they had been joined to a continental effort until their new leader presented himself. The freshly minted general had an unprecedented opportunity to shape an entirely new fighting force.

    As members of the U.S. Army and the other military services marched past President Donald Trump’s viewing stand on Saturday, I wondered what George Washington would have thought of what has since become the world’s most diverse military organization, one that closely mirrors the makeup of the people they are sworn to protect.

    One in five soldiers serving in the U.S. Army is African American; nearly as many are Hispanic. More than 10 percent label themselves as being of either Native American, Asian or Pacific Islander, or multiracial heritage. Women make up more than 15 percent of the active-duty Army, and, while recent data are difficult to come by, a 2015 study found that more than 5 percent of the Army identified as LGBT. And minorities aren’t just part of the rank and file; more than a quarter of Army officers are nonwhite.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,304

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,304

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,005
    the new superman movie is apparently woke as fuck.

    funny that it is the same story as before, yet maga is offended by it.

    if maga is offended by it, it might be worth checking out.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."