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  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
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  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 466
    Shaindli1 said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    We also have zero data about sales or demand. I agree it's going to be a full house eventually. Because this leg is only five cities, people are traveling farther distances. I'm driving from MA. 
    Well we know that there are hundred of seats in the 300s for N2 unlike any other show. I do believe there are hold backs at the other shows but Raleigh must have a bunch more for TM to be dumping them this early.  What hurts Raleigh is Atlanta which will take away a lot of people in western North and South Carolina. If you are in and around Greenville/Anderson/Spartanburg even Columbia Atlanta is the shorter trip (equal for Columbia). Even Charleston is only 35 minutes longer. I'm targeting Raleigh because I'm literally in the eastern most part of SC so it's closer than Atlanta, I went to school in the area and know it well and I have friends and family there. I'm pretty sure back in 2016 Greenville had the highest probability of 10Cers getting PIT but Raleigh wasn't that far behind. The Carolinas are just a softer market.

  • PrezIntense
    PrezIntense Posts: 409
    ally12 said:
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
    and miss the merch line?!!!
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  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    edited January 5
    ally12 said:
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
    and miss the merch line?!!!
     Nope! Merch most likely will open at noon like previous legs. Be first in line, get your merch and GTFO and head to the restaurant. Drive separate. 
    Post edited by ally12 on
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  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,416
    ally12 said:
    ally12 said:
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
    and miss the merch line?!!!
     Nope! Merch opens in most areas most likely will open at noon like previous legs. Be first in line, get your merch and GTFO and head to the restaurant. Drive separate. 
    WOW you really thought about the logistics!
    #Grievance2025 
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    Shaindli1 said:
    ally12 said:
    ally12 said:
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
    and miss the merch line?!!!
     Nope! Merch opens in most areas most likely will open at noon like previous legs. Be first in line, get your merch and GTFO and head to the restaurant. Drive separate. 
    WOW you really thought about the logistics!
    Haha! Gotta get the coveted token and poster! 
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  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,416
    ally12 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    ally12 said:
    ally12 said:
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
    and miss the merch line?!!!
     Nope! Merch opens in most areas most likely will open at noon like previous legs. Be first in line, get your merch and GTFO and head to the restaurant. Drive separate. 
    WOW you really thought about the logistics!
    Haha! Gotta get the coveted token and poster! 
    I’m still thinking the merch logistics for Pittsburgh. 
    #Grievance2025 
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    Shaindli1 said:
    ally12 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    ally12 said:
    ally12 said:
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
    and miss the merch line?!!!
     Nope! Merch opens in most areas most likely will open at noon like previous legs. Be first in line, get your merch and GTFO and head to the restaurant. Drive separate. 
    WOW you really thought about the logistics!
    Haha! Gotta get the coveted token and poster! 
    I’m still thinking the merch logistics for Pittsburgh. 
    Honestly, they should really implement merch hours on the off day in addition to the regular hours on show days. Pitt N1 and N2 are a day apart they should ask the arena if they can have the trailer open in the AM on the Saturday. 

    Makes sense if their new model is 2 shows per city with a major demand. 

    Didn’t Wrigley or Fenway get multiple merch days?  
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  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited January 5
    They'll probably do that. They did for most of the two-date arena shows in 2023-24 when there was a day off in between. Wrigley and Fenway had like 5 days of merch but it's different with stadiums. 
    Post edited by SHZA on
  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    ally12 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    ally12 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    ally12 said:
    ally12 said:
    on2legs said:
    Re: Is Raleigh selling poorly...

    As thrilled as I am to have PJ play twice in my hometown, we probably didn't need two dates. That said, I promise if those $175 tickets were in 200s or lower they'd all be gone. I know PLENTY of people looking at those 300s seats who are just waiting to see if and when something better opens up. Both nights will be a full house, trust that. Once Ticketmaster starts lowering those premiums and opening up additional lowers, they'll start moving.

    I think the strategy with the Raleigh show was to get a bunch of people from SC and VA (as well as the whole state of NC) a chance -- but on a Tuesday night that's gonna be tough for people. Sunday will be a tougher ticket to get because it allows people some travel wiggle room hence higher demand.
    That Sunday is Mother’s Day.   That’s not helping much.  
    Meh.. take the moms and wives out for brunch.
    and miss the merch line?!!!
     Nope! Merch opens in most areas most likely will open at noon like previous legs. Be first in line, get your merch and GTFO and head to the restaurant. Drive separate. 
    WOW you really thought about the logistics!
    Haha! Gotta get the coveted token and poster! 
    I’m still thinking the merch logistics for Pittsburgh. 
    Honestly, they should really implement merch hours on the off day in addition to the regular hours on show days. Pitt N1 and N2 are a day apart they should ask the arena if they can have the trailer open in the AM on the Saturday. 

    Makes sense if their new model is 2 shows per city with a major demand. 

    Didn’t Wrigley or Fenway get multiple merch days?  
    They opened Missoula merch the day before the show, and utilized the in-between days for the other cities in May and September this year. And I know they sold merch on the day between Ft. Worth 1 and 2 last year. 


  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,813
    The merch trailer was open the day off in between shows in St Paul in 2023. 
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    It’s seems selective though and not an all round policy. I went to the BC and MSG show and it was event day. 

    MSG merch was not well organized. 
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  • Fredrick Goldberg
    Fredrick Goldberg Pittsburgh Posts: 78
    ally12 said:
    It’s seems selective though and not an all round policy. I went to the BC and MSG show and it was event day. 

    MSG merch was not well organized. 
    ally12 said:
    It’s seems selective though and not an all round policy. I went to the BC and MSG show and it was event day. 

    MSG merch was not well organized. 
    No day off for MSG. I thought the 2nd day was pretty smooth compared to first. They will be selling merch on off day.
  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,416
    I'm hoping for a Boston kind of situation because with the driving from Raleigh and other contingencies it's not easy to plan.
    #Grievance2025 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited January 5
    They've had merch open on the off day between shows (almost) every time they've had that situation in the last two years. 5 of 7 arenas (St Paul, Chicago, Ft Worth, [not Vancouver or Vegas], Seattle, Philly) plus Wrigley and Fenway. I'd say that's an all around policy to do it if they can. MSG had no off day. 
    Post edited by SHZA on
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    SHZA said:
    They've had merch open on the off day between shows every time they've had that situation in the last two years. 7 arenas (St Paul, Chicago, Ft Worth, Vancouver, Vegas, Seattle, Philly) plus Wrigley and Fenway. I'd say that's an all around policy. MSG had no off day. 
    BC didn’t have an off day for merch, it was just the 2 days. It went pretty smooth too 
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  • And they've sold. Hopefully to someone here.
    Yup I got em! Christmas present for sister who was unlucky in the presale and 10c.
    PrezIntense - your sister is the luckiest to have you for a sibling!!!   
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,784
    And they've sold. Hopefully to someone here.
    Yup I got em! Christmas present for sister who was unlucky in the presale and 10c.
    PrezIntense - your sister is the luckiest to have you for a sibling!!!   
    Present as in gift.  
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  • Shaindli1 said:
    My best friend who lives on the other side of the world (and refuses to visit the US) & I made a bet just now.

    I'm saying that ticket prices incl premium will drop the closer we get to the show. 
    He says they'll go up especially since people are willing to buy premium.
    If I win he'll come visit me.
    If I lose I must go travel with him in Nepal.

    What are the chances I win?
    Man, with that kind of a bet, I would hope to lose.  I’ve always wanted to see Nepal.  As for the answer, I have not a clue 🤷‍♀️
    ...And he who forgets will be destined to remember.

    ...I swear I never took it for granted. Just thought of it now.
  • Question- when you sell on f2f, do you forfeit all those damn TM fees or can you sell the tickets for the ACTUAL cost (face + fees)??
    ...And he who forgets will be destined to remember.

    ...I swear I never took it for granted. Just thought of it now.
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