It’s supposedly already an agreement that tickets being scalped will be voided. Given that there already is no transfer I don’t know what they could do to get around the hack other than not use mobile tickets. If the ticket has a barcode it can be hosted on that secure.tickets site. Here’s an example of what one looks like:
If they went back to enabling transfers you can say goodbye to face value tickets if you strike out in the lottery other than the handful of good samaritans on here who will play by the rules, UNLESS the 10c actually does crack down on it. But that also half relies on self-policing and reporting the people who are doing it.
I guess I don't understand the tech enough. If each ticket has a barcode and the agreement says no resell, can't they see the tickets out on resell sites and void them? Sure it would be a bit of work, but hell, people that post here would do most of the work for them.
No, because they don't post the bar code for free, neither do resell sites post the seat #'s, Just the section and row, most likely on purpose so the tickets can't be tracked to the person that owns them on TM. It makes it hard to police when you don't know the exact seat #'s. 10c would need to buy the tickets to see what shows up, or fans would, then relay the info.
Some resale sites occasionally post seat numbers
Which is why, in the cases you can directly map tickets on resale sites to those from the lottery, void them or will call them to the original ten club member or the name on the Ticketmaster account that purchased them on f2f.
crazy how these links should directly be available to the person you sent it to... TM already know you are selling at face value, why not add like 10 minute head start....
Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM. Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8. Not sure if this applies to F2F.
It would appear it does. I sold one on 1/11 that I never got paid for. Been arguing with their chat reps the past week about getting payment, and was told repeatedly that you don't get paid until after the event. I just assumed they didn't know what they were talking about (as is usually the case), but it seems I was wrong. Would have been nice if they gave some kind of notice. I sold one 5 days before that and had no problem getting paid.
for those of you whose TM accounts were paused, did they eventually reopen? I tried for FireAid tickets for over an hour until I was paused. I did a chat and was told they would escalate the matter.
It took about 10 days for mine to become unblocked. I hope yours doesn't take as long.
did TM ever call you to discuss?
They never called. I was one of the people who got the email saying that it would be a permanent ban. Then about a week later it was unblocked. This happened to a bunch of us. So, if you get an email saying that you are permanently banned it may not be the case. Also, as @KJ228171 suggested, if you are not unblocked by the NIN sale, just create a new account. You have to create it with a new email address, but can use the same payment methods.
Thanks for the information.
I know most people are tired of this so apologies and closing my loop because I doubt anything comes of it. I emailed 10C about the bans on Dec 26, 2024. They replied today with the following.
Tickets (Ten Club)
Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM PST
Hello KXXX,
Thanks
for emailing the Ten Club with this information. Sorry for the delay in
responding, we have been busy catching up after the ticket sales and
holidays.
We will pass along your email, we are always fighting the bots!
for those of you whose TM accounts were paused, did they eventually reopen? I tried for FireAid tickets for over an hour until I was paused. I did a chat and was told they would escalate the matter.
It took about 10 days for mine to become unblocked. I hope yours doesn't take as long.
did TM ever call you to discuss?
They never called. I was one of the people who got the email saying that it would be a permanent ban. Then about a week later it was unblocked. This happened to a bunch of us. So, if you get an email saying that you are permanently banned it may not be the case. Also, as @KJ228171 suggested, if you are not unblocked by the NIN sale, just create a new account. You have to create it with a new email address, but can use the same payment methods.
Thanks for the information.
I know most people are tired of this so apologies and closing my loop because I doubt anything comes of it. I emailed 10C about the bans on Dec 26, 2024. They replied today with the following.
Tickets (Ten Club)
Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM PST
Hello KXXX,
Thanks
for emailing the Ten Club with this information. Sorry for the delay in
responding, we have been busy catching up after the ticket sales and
holidays.
We will pass along your email, we are always fighting the bots!
Thank you,
Ten Club
What email address did you send this to? If enough of us send one, you’d think they stars to care? Maybe?
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
for those of you whose TM accounts were paused, did they eventually reopen? I tried for FireAid tickets for over an hour until I was paused. I did a chat and was told they would escalate the matter.
It took about 10 days for mine to become unblocked. I hope yours doesn't take as long.
did TM ever call you to discuss?
They never called. I was one of the people who got the email saying that it would be a permanent ban. Then about a week later it was unblocked. This happened to a bunch of us. So, if you get an email saying that you are permanently banned it may not be the case. Also, as @KJ228171 suggested, if you are not unblocked by the NIN sale, just create a new account. You have to create it with a new email address, but can use the same payment methods.
Thanks for the information.
I know most people are tired of this so apologies and closing my loop because I doubt anything comes of it. I emailed 10C about the bans on Dec 26, 2024. They replied today with the following.
Tickets (Ten Club)
Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM PST
Hello KXXX,
Thanks
for emailing the Ten Club with this information. Sorry for the delay in
responding, we have been busy catching up after the ticket sales and
holidays.
We will pass along your email, we are always fighting the bots!
Thank you,
Ten Club
What email address did you send this to? If enough of us send one, you’d think they stars to care? Maybe?
I sent messages to info@tenclub.net, to the PR rep, to the GM, to the band manager. Although you can find them I'm not posting the last three on a public forum but if you want them DM me. Strangely the first reply they sent (back in December) was contact information for Pearl Jam Press Relations with a phone number and email.
Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM. Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8. Not sure if this applies to F2F.
It would appear it does. I sold one on 1/11 that I never got paid for. Been arguing with their chat reps the past week about getting payment, and was told repeatedly that you don't get paid until after the event. I just assumed they didn't know what they were talking about (as is usually the case), but it seems I was wrong. Would have been nice if they gave some kind of notice. I sold one 5 days before that and had no problem getting paid.
I sold one in late December and got paid on 1/6. Guess I just made it under the wire.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM. Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8. Not sure if this applies to F2F.
It would appear it does. I sold one on 1/11 that I never got paid for. Been arguing with their chat reps the past week about getting payment, and was told repeatedly that you don't get paid until after the event. I just assumed they didn't know what they were talking about (as is usually the case), but it seems I was wrong. Would have been nice if they gave some kind of notice. I sold one 5 days before that and had no problem getting paid.
Wow that's SUPER lame. TM gets to hold onto my money for 5 months for no good reason? Sweet. Thanks for posting this here to spread awareness, though. Saved me from having to waste my time contacting them about it.
Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM. Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8. Not sure if this applies to F2F.
It would appear it does. I sold one on 1/11 that I never got paid for. Been arguing with their chat reps the past week about getting payment, and was told repeatedly that you don't get paid until after the event. I just assumed they didn't know what they were talking about (as is usually the case), but it seems I was wrong. Would have been nice if they gave some kind of notice. I sold one 5 days before that and had no problem getting paid.
Wow that's SUPER lame. TM gets to hold onto my money for 5 months for no good reason? Sweet. Thanks for posting this here to spread awareness, though. Saved me from having to waste my time contacting them about it.
Granted, they did change the wording at the bottom of the 'your ticket listing just sold' email to say that you now don't get paid until after the event. But how many of us who've sold lots of tickets actually read the fine print on every single sold notification? Our boxes are full of them, and it's been the same auto-generated email for years. Why would I think this notification would be any different than the one I received the week before? I just think they could have done a better job of communicating such a sudden change in policy.
Bots have been a fan problem for many, many years. They have always been one step ahead. Which I find surprising since TM now wants to resell it own tickets for more money. You would think they could find the tech to block them. Interesting about TM holding up payment until the event. That is millions of dollars sitting in TM's account earning interest. Their greed never ends.
Bots have been a fan problem for many, many years. They have always been one step ahead. Which I find surprising since TM now wants to resell it own tickets for more money. You would think they could find the tech to block them. Interesting about TM holding up payment until the event. That is millions of dollars sitting in TM's account earning interest. Their greed never ends.
PJ should play Green Disease and dedicate it to TM.
I sold tickets on the TM platform in 2021 and they held payment until after the event.
They did that when concerts first came back after Covid, but for the last year or two, until very recently it appears, they paid out a few days after the sale.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I sold tickets on the TM platform in 2021 and they held payment until after the event.
Yeah, they started doing that when covid hit and all the events were being cancelled or postponed. But then they went back to paying after the sale at the end of 2022. Not sure what prompted them to go back to holding our money now.
Bots have been a fan problem for many, many years. They have always been one step ahead. Which I find surprising since TM now wants to resell it own tickets for more money. You would think they could find the tech to block them. Interesting about TM holding up payment until the event. That is millions of dollars sitting in TM's account earning interest. Their greed never ends.
How is TM reselling it own tickets for more money?
I sold tickets on the TM platform in 2021 and they held payment until after the event.
Yeah, they started doing that when covid hit and all the events were being cancelled or postponed. But then they went back to paying after the sale at the end of 2022. Not sure what prompted them to go back to holding our money now.
Higher interest rates….they earn more on the held funds.
Bots have been a fan problem for many, many years. They have always been one step ahead. Which I find surprising since TM now wants to resell it own tickets for more money. You would think they could find the tech to block them. Interesting about TM holding up payment until the event. That is millions of dollars sitting in TM's account earning interest. Their greed never ends.
How is TM reselling it own tickets for more money?
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Tickets (Ten Club)
Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM PST
Hello KXXX,Thanks for emailing the Ten Club with this information. Sorry for the delay in responding, we have been busy catching up after the ticket sales and holidays.
We will pass along your email, we are always fighting the bots!
Thank you,
Ten Club
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I guess I should have just said selling.