How do same people get GA for so many shows?

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  • edocon
    edocon Posts: 336
    I put in for 10 shows in the lottery and won GA for both Vegas shows and drew reserved seats for 7 of the other shows.
  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    Zod said:
    There was a theory that lottery was drawn oddly this tour.   Instead of drawing each show separately, they drew ballots, and filled as much of the ballot as they could, and moved into the next ballot.   If you were fortunate to be the first person drawn, and you chose ever show on the tour, you'd get GA to every show on the tour, because there were tickets left.

    It was kind of unfair way to do it.  I thought it was kind of suspicious that so few 10c'ers I knew won GA to either Vancouver show, but some people won both.
    Something odd definitely happened with GA at 2 show spots on the US tour. Way too many with GA for both nights.
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,378
    Zod said:
    There was a theory that lottery was drawn oddly this tour.   Instead of drawing each show separately, they drew ballots, and filled as much of the ballot as they could, and moved into the next ballot.   If you were fortunate to be the first person drawn, and you chose ever show on the tour, you'd get GA to every show on the tour, because there were tickets left.

    It was kind of unfair way to do it.  I thought it was kind of suspicious that so few 10c'ers I knew won GA to either Vancouver show, but some people won both.
    Something odd definitely happened with GA at 2 show spots on the US tour. Way too many with GA for both nights.
    Me and a few others (@zod was one) were on thos from the get go. I know there were many people just calling us sore losers and such. Or informed us just how lotteries work, because apparently we don't understand that.

    There were some that did get seats for one show and GA for the other show in the same city. But there sure seemed to be a suspiciously large percentage of people that recieved the same selection for both shows in the same city. And knowing now that the GA were supposed to accommodate only 400 tix makes the odds of getting multiple GA seem even lower.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,263
    edited October 2024
    big group of people all put in for most/all shows and then help each other out

    This is totally true...as is the "account for others." People buy accounts for others. It's totally within the rules to have multiple accounts for the household, providing it's one account per person.

    There is absolutely no rule about "the account holder must attend the show."

    Hypothetically, someone's wife could buy a membership and win the tickets. The person could then download "her" tockets onto his phone and be good. Meanwhile, the wife is 1500 miles away, watching primetime TV the night of the show.

    Some people go to Disney or the beach or whatever for their vacation. Other people do a week of Pearl Jam and it got less expensive since they're doing multiple shows in the same city...fewer flights.
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  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    big group of people all put in for most/all shows and then help each other out

    This is totally true...as is the "account for others." People buy accounts for others. It's totally within the rules to have multiple accounts for the household, providing it's one account per person.

    There is absolutely no rule about "the account holder must attend the show."

    Hypothetically, someone's wife could buy a membership and win the tickets. The person could then download "her" tockets onto his phone and be good. Meanwhile, the wife is 1500 miles away, watching primetime TV the night of the show.

    Some people go to Disney or the beach or whatever for their vacation. Other people do a week of Pearl Jam and it got less expensive since they're doing multiple shows in the same city...fewer flights.
    It's been a long time since I signed up for a membership, but what is stopping me from making up a wife? Name on credit card?

    Honestly, I am most intrigued on how people deal with bathrooming while hanging out for 12 hours at the front. 
  • It's really not hard at all to get a ticket if you have money 


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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    kaw753 said:
    big group of people all put in for most/all shows and then help each other out

    This is totally true...as is the "account for others." People buy accounts for others. It's totally within the rules to have multiple accounts for the household, providing it's one account per person.

    There is absolutely no rule about "the account holder must attend the show."

    Hypothetically, someone's wife could buy a membership and win the tickets. The person could then download "her" tockets onto his phone and be good. Meanwhile, the wife is 1500 miles away, watching primetime TV the night of the show.

    Some people go to Disney or the beach or whatever for their vacation. Other people do a week of Pearl Jam and it got less expensive since they're doing multiple shows in the same city...fewer flights.
    It's been a long time since I signed up for a membership, but what is stopping me from making up a wife? Name on credit card?

    Honestly, I am most intrigued on how people deal with bathrooming while hanging out for 12 hours at the front. 
    Depends





    on how cool the other people around you are.
  • on2legs said:
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Think about how much time and effort you might put into succeeding at your job and then imagine bringing the same energy to being in GA.  There is a well connected network of people working together to see as many GA shows as possible.  Gotta respect the hustle. 
    I’m not a GA guy but I’ve spent a lot of time on fan to fan.  The above posting as applied to me should be “think about how much you could get done at work if you spent the time and effort you spend on fan to fan”! 
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,988
    I keep progressively getting moved back at Fenway, so I'm fine with a GA thrown in once in a while! 
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    mpedone said:
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Part of it is the way the lottery worked for this tour, as it seems that individual accounts were drawn and sold their entire ticket selection. So, if you put in for GA at a bunch of shows, and your number was picked early, you got GA for those shows. 
    I put in for GA for ten shows. I got GA for five of them. I got non-GA for the other five, so I don't think your theory is correct.

    I put in for singles for eight of the ten shows. I did not put in for the highest-demand shows. I think both of these things were a factor in my success in the lottery.

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    kaw753 said:

    It's been a long time since I signed up for a membership, but what is stopping me from making up a wife? 
    Self-respect? :)

    Another approach is to order one from a catalog...
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  • kosteva2
    kosteva2 Posts: 329
    There's a decent number of "friends of the band/crew" who have access to GA for any show.
    Some decent sized groups of friends who tour together and all put in for multiple shows and share tickets to cover each other.
    As others said there are a lot of people with multiple accounts for spouses/kids/friends.  If you plan on hitting a bunch of shows every tour, the ~$37/year/account could be worth it to multiply your chances of hitting GA.  I don't think credit card has to match name on account and easy to share Ticketmaster login with family member.  
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,795
    Had GA for both LA shows... just lucky. Pit really light
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    I put in for 4 shows this year and chose the best available option (GA or Seats) for both Seattles and both Wrigleys.  I went 1 for 4 in the lottery.  Only show I won was reserved for Seattle 1.  Got the other shows I needed on F2F and on here. 
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  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    kosteva2 said:
    There's a decent number of "friends of the band/crew" who have access to GA for any show.
    Some decent sized groups of friends who tour together and all put in for multiple shows and share tickets to cover each other.
    As others said there are a lot of people with multiple accounts for spouses/kids/friends.  If you plan on hitting a bunch of shows every tour, the ~$37/year/account could be worth it to multiply your chances of hitting GA.  I don't think credit card has to match name on account and easy to share Ticketmaster login with family member.  
    Crap, it is $37 now?

    Paying an extra $37 per year when I have won GA tickets 1 time in 20+ selections over the years seems like a terrible return on investment when you can just buy them for any show in the EU and get close for two shows at Ohana with a well timed bathroom break.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    GA can be had for most shows with the appropriate amount of effort. What is more telling is the amount of effort it takes to be on the rail for multiple shows to the point of being recognized by Ed or the band. There is no doubt a network of fans that invest significant time and are devoted to being on the rail for as many shows as possible. They help each other out, possibly to the exclusion of others which why the 10c publicly stated there is no official list for GA.
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,900
    Based on my experience, it seems like a small number of people (20 or less) are the regulars who are celebrated and therefore makes it sound like a bigger issue.

    Most people can walk in when doors open to grab a solid view 2-5 rows back without the wait. Those that go for rail have a support system of friends and know how to manage waiting out 12+ hours for their spots. I don't mind their approach, they put in the work and choose to spend accordingly to get what they want.

    But, the spirit of the band offering GA pits again was to rotate in fresh faces up front vs the same legacy 10C members getting guaranteed reserved seats. It'd be nice to see some random-assignment lineup experiments to prevent the same people landing rail each show - reduces the anxiety, conflicts, and safety of fans trying to tough it out outside most venues.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    Would love to see them distribute numbered bracelets the day of the show for GA and then randomly draw a number to determine the first person in line. It would rotate the faces up front and eliminate the need to camp out all night.  
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  • on2legs said:
    Would love to see them distribute numbered bracelets the day of the show for GA and then randomly draw a number to determine the first person in line. It would rotate the faces up front and eliminate the need to camp out all night.  
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,795
    on2legs said:
    Would love to see them distribute numbered bracelets the day of the show for GA and then randomly draw a number to determine the first person in line. It would rotate the faces up front and eliminate the need to camp out all night.  
    Like Bruce did for years until his camp got tired of managing it. Was fair.