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pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,528
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So during both Philly shows this year ED pointed out how some of the people up front have been to a lot of shows and it a lot of different locations.  how is this possible with the lottery?  What really are the chances of the same people getting picked for GA over and over and over again?  The odds of the same people winning over and over have to be very minimal.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,983
    pjhawks said:
    So during both Philly shows this year ED pointed out how some of the people up front have been to a lot of shows and it a lot of different locations.  how is this possible with the lottery?  What really are the chances of the same people getting picked for GA over and over and over again?  The odds of the same people winning over and over have to be very minimal.
    Basically who you know. Some get them close to the show from people who can't go. Most win it from the lottery though. I tried for the first time in 2022 and this year. But I just keep getting moved back. 
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  • KN219077KN219077 Posts: 1,111
    It’s pretty easy to find GA tickets when they make you buy two, lots of people sell their singles
  • AmishGuy91AmishGuy91 Posts: 832
    big group of people all put in for most/all shows and then help each other out
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,983
    KN219077 said:
    It’s pretty easy to find GA tickets when they make you buy two, lots of people sell their singles
    You don't have to put in for 2 anymore 
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  • KN219077KN219077 Posts: 1,111
    igotid88 said:
    KN219077 said:
    It’s pretty easy to find GA tickets when they make you buy two, lots of people sell their singles
    You don't have to put in for 2 anymore 
    I did, but I also got 10 club GA So it didn’t bother me, and it was easy to offload the ticket
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,168
    I got drawn GA for both Fenway shows, which honestly should have been almost impossible but wasn't. This year the lottery seemed to award many people multiple GAs. 

    Beyond that, there is a dedicated group here who work to get themselves and others GA tickets through trades and plus ones. Lots of people helping each other out, which is cool to see. 
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,858
    edited October 4
    If you want the truth, it’s two things 

    A) Lots of singles trading.  If you’re a solo concert goer, each GA pair hit basically Gets you two shows with a trade

    B ) A lot more people than are willing to admit have accounts for their wife, husband, sibling, kid, best friend, etc

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  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,854
    igotid88 said:
    KN219077 said:
    It’s pretty easy to find GA tickets when they make you buy two, lots of people sell their singles
    You don't have to put in for 2 anymore 
    But if you do and hit, you have trade bait.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,528
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,119
    edited October 4
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Think about how much time and effort you might put into succeeding at your job and then imagine bringing the same energy to being in GA.  There is a well connected network of people working together to see as many GA shows as possible.  Gotta respect the hustle. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,939
    on2legs said:
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Think about how much time and effort you might put into succeeding at your job and then imagine bringing the same energy to being in GA.  There is a well connected network of people working together to see as many GA shows as possible.  Gotta respect the hustle. 
    Respect the hustle.  But there is a screw loose to have to be front row at every show in 2024.   Maybe they have nothing going on outside of PJ and wasting days upon days in different cities sitting in a parking lot in a line doesn't seem like wasted time.  If I'm not traveling I'm working so I guess I don't want to use my free time that way.  
  • KN219077KN219077 Posts: 1,111
    bootlegger10 said:
    on2legs said:
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Think about how much time and effort you might put into succeeding at your job and then imagine bringing the same energy to being in GA.  There is a well connected network of people working together to see as many GA shows as possible.  Gotta respect the hustle. 
    Respect the hustle.  But there is a screw loose to have to be front row at every show in 2024.   Maybe they have nothing going on outside of PJ and wasting days upon days in different cities sitting in a parking lot in a line doesn't seem like wasted time.  If I'm not traveling I'm working so I guess I don't want to use my free time that way.  
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,119
    bootlegger10 said:
    on2legs said:
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Think about how much time and effort you might put into succeeding at your job and then imagine bringing the same energy to being in GA.  There is a well connected network of people working together to see as many GA shows as possible.  Gotta respect the hustle. 
    Respect the hustle.  But there is a screw loose to have to be front row at every show in 2024.   Maybe they have nothing going on outside of PJ and wasting days upon days in different cities sitting in a parking lot in a line doesn't seem like wasted time.  If I'm not traveling I'm working so I guess I don't want to use my free time that way.  
    Agreed. 
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,440
    I've scored GA for every show I've put it in as my 1st choice. Maybe it's luck - I certainly don't know anyone in the band or associated with the band. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,083
    edited October 5
    mfc2006 said:
    I've scored GA for every show I've put it in as my 1st choice. Maybe it's luck - I certainly don't know anyone in the band or associated with the band. 
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  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,854
    mfc2006 said:
    I've scored GA for every show I've put it in as my 1st choice. Maybe it's luck - I certainly don't know anyone in the band or associated with the band. 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,467
    One other thing that hasn't been mentioned is that for Fenway at least.....not terribly difficult to get into GA
  • mpedonempedone Posts: 1,947
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Part of it is the way the lottery worked for this tour, as it seems that individual accounts were drawn and sold their entire ticket selection. So, if you put in for GA at a bunch of shows, and your number was picked early, you got GA for those shows. 
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,587
    There was a theory that lottery was drawn oddly this tour.   Instead of drawing each show separately, they drew ballots, and filled as much of the ballot as they could, and moved into the next ballot.   If you were fortunate to be the first person drawn, and you chose ever show on the tour, you'd get GA to every show on the tour, because there were tickets left.

    It was kind of unfair way to do it.  I thought it was kind of suspicious that so few 10c'ers I knew won GA to either Vancouver show, but some people won both.
  • edoconedocon Posts: 332
    I put in for 10 shows in the lottery and won GA for both Vegas shows and drew reserved seats for 7 of the other shows.
  • BloodMeridian80BloodMeridian80 Posts: 655
    Zod said:
    There was a theory that lottery was drawn oddly this tour.   Instead of drawing each show separately, they drew ballots, and filled as much of the ballot as they could, and moved into the next ballot.   If you were fortunate to be the first person drawn, and you chose ever show on the tour, you'd get GA to every show on the tour, because there were tickets left.

    It was kind of unfair way to do it.  I thought it was kind of suspicious that so few 10c'ers I knew won GA to either Vancouver show, but some people won both.
    Something odd definitely happened with GA at 2 show spots on the US tour. Way too many with GA for both nights.
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory Posts: 6,451
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    Zod said:
    There was a theory that lottery was drawn oddly this tour.   Instead of drawing each show separately, they drew ballots, and filled as much of the ballot as they could, and moved into the next ballot.   If you were fortunate to be the first person drawn, and you chose ever show on the tour, you'd get GA to every show on the tour, because there were tickets left.

    It was kind of unfair way to do it.  I thought it was kind of suspicious that so few 10c'ers I knew won GA to either Vancouver show, but some people won both.
    Something odd definitely happened with GA at 2 show spots on the US tour. Way too many with GA for both nights.
    Me and a few others (@zod was one) were on thos from the get go. I know there were many people just calling us sore losers and such. Or informed us just how lotteries work, because apparently we don't understand that.

    There were some that did get seats for one show and GA for the other show in the same city. But there sure seemed to be a suspiciously large percentage of people that recieved the same selection for both shows in the same city. And knowing now that the GA were supposed to accommodate only 400 tix makes the odds of getting multiple GA seem even lower.
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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,902
    edited October 5
    AmishGuy91 said:
    big group of people all put in for most/all shows and then help each other out

    This is totally true...as is the "account for others." People buy accounts for others. It's totally within the rules to have multiple accounts for the household, providing it's one account per person.

    There is absolutely no rule about "the account holder must attend the show."

    Hypothetically, someone's wife could buy a membership and win the tickets. The person could then download "her" tockets onto his phone and be good. Meanwhile, the wife is 1500 miles away, watching primetime TV the night of the show.

    Some people go to Disney or the beach or whatever for their vacation. Other people do a week of Pearl Jam and it got less expensive since they're doing multiple shows in the same city...fewer flights.
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  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 849
    Lost In Ohio said:
    AmishGuy91 said:
    big group of people all put in for most/all shows and then help each other out

    This is totally true...as is the "account for others." People buy accounts for others. It's totally within the rules to have multiple accounts for the household, providing it's one account per person.

    There is absolutely no rule about "the account holder must attend the show."

    Hypothetically, someone's wife could buy a membership and win the tickets. The person could then download "her" tockets onto his phone and be good. Meanwhile, the wife is 1500 miles away, watching primetime TV the night of the show.

    Some people go to Disney or the beach or whatever for their vacation. Other people do a week of Pearl Jam and it got less expensive since they're doing multiple shows in the same city...fewer flights.
    It's been a long time since I signed up for a membership, but what is stopping me from making up a wife? Name on credit card?

    Honestly, I am most intrigued on how people deal with bathrooming while hanging out for 12 hours at the front. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,846
    It's really not hard at all to get a ticket if you have money 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,467
    kaw753 said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    AmishGuy91 said:
    big group of people all put in for most/all shows and then help each other out

    This is totally true...as is the "account for others." People buy accounts for others. It's totally within the rules to have multiple accounts for the household, providing it's one account per person.

    There is absolutely no rule about "the account holder must attend the show."

    Hypothetically, someone's wife could buy a membership and win the tickets. The person could then download "her" tockets onto his phone and be good. Meanwhile, the wife is 1500 miles away, watching primetime TV the night of the show.

    Some people go to Disney or the beach or whatever for their vacation. Other people do a week of Pearl Jam and it got less expensive since they're doing multiple shows in the same city...fewer flights.
    It's been a long time since I signed up for a membership, but what is stopping me from making up a wife? Name on credit card?

    Honestly, I am most intrigued on how people deal with bathrooming while hanging out for 12 hours at the front. 
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,018
    on2legs said:
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Think about how much time and effort you might put into succeeding at your job and then imagine bringing the same energy to being in GA.  There is a well connected network of people working together to see as many GA shows as possible.  Gotta respect the hustle. 
    I’m not a GA guy but I’ve spent a lot of time on fan to fan.  The above posting as applied to me should be “think about how much you could get done at work if you spent the time and effort you spend on fan to fan”! 
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants1STmammal2wearPants Posts: 2,938
    I keep progressively getting moved back at Fenway, so I'm fine with a GA thrown in once in a while! 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,501
    mpedone said:
    pjhawks said:
    Appreciate the responses, still seems odd to me especially for the indoor shows.  Limited supply vs. demand for Philly and NY especially.   I don't put in for GA so it's not a huge deal to me just had me wondering how these people are getting there all the time, enough for Ed to point it out.   
    Part of it is the way the lottery worked for this tour, as it seems that individual accounts were drawn and sold their entire ticket selection. So, if you put in for GA at a bunch of shows, and your number was picked early, you got GA for those shows. 
    I put in for GA for ten shows. I got GA for five of them. I got non-GA for the other five, so I don't think your theory is correct.

    I put in for singles for eight of the ten shows. I did not put in for the highest-demand shows. I think both of these things were a factor in my success in the lottery.

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