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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,871
    I drove 7 hours I understand. 
    If the tour was a few more places like before. Amsterdam.  Italy.  Added. 
    In Manchester I only met a hand full of English people. Most had come from USA and around Europe. USA has a tour yet many many Americans were there and doing the whole euro run
    That's a big loss that i don't think they will under take again.


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,871
    There isn't an easy solution 


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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    PJNB said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Enough with these ridiculous posts. They got sick, it happens. Health is more important than a concert. Some of you people are absolutely ridiculous and sad with your comments. Yes, it sucks it happened and yes you can be disappointed and vent but you act like they did it on purpose. I’m glad they canceled, maybe they were sick of all the months and multiple threads of people complaining about seats, concert venue, concert time, song selection, T shirt quality etc etc etc.  it’s just a concert, people have real problems and this ain’t one. Post covid world is unstable, it’s called life. Deal with it. Are you happy you started another thread??
    You are glad they cancelled? 
    I was going to say…
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    lastexitlondon said:
    There isn't an easy solution 
    Its just a case of the rough and the smooth......

    chances are over time there will be more smooth than rough, we've just had a tough run recently. 

    I mean the USA leg 1 went fantastically well. 
  • Spartanacus
    Spartanacus Oviedo, FL Posts: 938
    severinl said:
    ...what kind of sickness takes 11 freaking days to get better?... 

    Covid can fuck you up for that and longer. 

    And we don't know if there might be more than one member sick, maybe even with the date of infection spread out a bit. 

    I hope you'll see a show in Barcelona! 
    Assuming it's covid, and assuming Ed has had it before at least once (I had it twice and the 2nd time was a piece of cake compared to the first - which I caught at Ohana AFTER testing negative btw)...unless it's running through all of them at different times, yeah, 11 days and you should be more than good to go.

    And even if they're not 100% or even if they still test positive for covid...pump yourself up with some good Biden State of the Union PEDs, and play a special sit down acoustic show with some great rarities thrown in.  You think the fans would bitch more about that than a total cancellation?  Nope.  

    Be extra smart.  Be extra healthy.  Take extra precautions.  Stop testing for covid.  Take it easy and play on no matter what (if Ed has a voice and Mike has two arms).  There's too much invested from the fans for anything less.
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  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    severinl said:
    ...what kind of sickness takes 11 freaking days to get better?... 

    Covid can fuck you up for that and longer. 

    And we don't know if there might be more than one member sick, maybe even with the date of infection spread out a bit. 

    I hope you'll see a show in Barcelona! 
    Cancel the show you didn't have tickets for lol
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,871
    pdalowsky said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    There isn't an easy solution 
    Its just a case of the rough and the smooth......

    chances are over time there will be more smooth than rough, we've just had a tough run recently. 

    I mean the USA leg 1 went fantastically well. 
    I agree the cancellations are just what they are it doesn't bother me. It's sad for everyone I know but it's life.


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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    lastexitlondon said:
    If everyone just went to the nearest show instead of travel if they cancel you lose nothing really 

    I have never quite understood why fans pay thousands of dollars for travel and hotels to see Pearl Jam concerts. I have done so in the US for Ohana or other festivals, but that involves three days of music. I may be biased since I live in the Northeast US, but I still do not get it.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,441
    Get_Right said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    If everyone just went to the nearest show instead of travel if they cancel you lose nothing really 

    I have never quite understood why fans pay thousands of dollars for travel and hotels to see Pearl Jam concerts. I have done so in the US for Ohana or other festivals, but that involves three days of music. I may be biased since I live in the Northeast US, but I still do not get it.
    If you understand it for Ohana or other festivals, I'm pretty sure you do understand it
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    Get_Right said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    If everyone just went to the nearest show instead of travel if they cancel you lose nothing really 

    I have never quite understood why fans pay thousands of dollars for travel and hotels to see Pearl Jam concerts. I have done so in the US for Ohana or other festivals, but that involves three days of music. I may be biased since I live in the Northeast US, but I still do not get it.
    some fans live in markets that do not get shows. Nothing in Japan since 95? or Asia generally, nothing in Australia for ten years? South Americans are passionate for the band. 

    I fully understand putting together a trip to see them. How many more chances will we get moving forward? Live with No regrets
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    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    Get_Right said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    If everyone just went to the nearest show instead of travel if they cancel you lose nothing really 

    I have never quite understood why fans pay thousands of dollars for travel and hotels to see Pearl Jam concerts. I have done so in the US for Ohana or other festivals, but that involves three days of music. I may be biased since I live in the Northeast US, but I still do not get it.
    You are biased as in NE USA.   Many cities you would have to travel long distances or else never see the band at all, or every ten years.

    Many work the shows into vacations.  I have seen PJ in 80 cities and 20 countries.  More about travel than seeing the band. 

    Some meet up with friends from out of town at shows and an excuse to meet somewhere.


  • maximumlawman
    maximumlawman Regensburg, Germany Posts: 229
    I think many of us would feel better, if an effort was made by the band, to go back as soon as possible to a city you cancelled a concert in. Raleigh was six years ago, Vienna and Prague two. If there was no time to be found to schedule a concert, go on stage and say something along the line of: “ we are so glad to be back and so sorry, we could  not play here last time, so this is for you [and then play whatever you put on the setlist anyway]” it was maybe not important enough. 
  • sdharv1919
    sdharv1919 Traverse City, MI Posts: 27
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If less fans traveled (i.e . flying) their would be less de facto supporting of pollution. 
    So shouldn't they respect the travelling fan less for the sake of environment, and focus on the ones not travelling long distances by plane? or have a function in place to support the ones going by e.g. train a little bit extra than those polluting for the sake of the band.
    Lol.  Tell that to the elites in their private jets.
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  • bpsteiner
    bpsteiner Seattle, WA Posts: 16
    If you don’t want to deal with the chance of cancellations then don’t buy tickets. It happens. Get over it. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Damn some of the comments here are hard to read on both sides. 
  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If less fans traveled (i.e . flying) their would be less de facto supporting of pollution. 
    So shouldn't they respect the travelling fan less for the sake of environment, and focus on the ones not travelling long distances by plane? or have a function in place to support the ones going by e.g. train a little bit extra than those polluting for the sake of the band.
    Your idea is very good hearted.  But given the amount of planes that fly everyday, and the fact that the airline will still operate the aircraft on schedule, empty seat or not, then this idea wouldn't have an effect.

    Even if we expand the person group to "fans of any artist".  If any travelling fan (of any artist) decides to boycott air travel, then the airlines will simply fill that seat with another person (likely scenario), or fly the scheduled route with the empty seat (because schedule disruptions are too costly).

    But in terms of environmental effect, you are spot on.  I googled "effects of airplanes on pollution" and the results were eye opening, as it's mentioned that "if the aviation industry were a country, it would be one of the top 10 carbon-polluting nations in the world".


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,136
    just_one said:
    English is not my first languague so bare with me...As a fan who was at vienna in 2022 and now has tickets for london,berlin,Barcelona,Madrid and lisbon i've got to say this.

    Something has to change within the band to avoid these waves of cancellations.

    If eddie was feeling ill he should never sang in Manchester plain and simple. Cancelling that show might have saved the rest of the tour but they went head full knowing the consequences for the remaining of the tour. 

    They know a lot of people travel from all over the world to see the band play, they have to protect themselfs better. Like eddie not coming down to the rail for example.

    There so many bands even bigger bands that have way worse scheduling tours and none of them have this happenning to them. Its just unexclusable at this point.

    Unfortunally this will be the last time we are travelling to see them play, they just became way to unreliable , it hurts to write this but its the truth. Its been 7 days since manchester , and it will be 11 days when barcelona comes, somehow i really hope they perform in Barcelona because lets be realistic here...what kind of sickness takes 11 freaking days to get better? That being said i've lost all hope for barcelona, yes im leaving for barcelona on the 4th but with no hope for them to show up at all.

    Im just sad this will be the last time so many fans are giving up travelling to see the band(im not the minority) , they really broke that special bond , there is not trust anymore ....

    Get over yourself...if some one is sick they cancel. End of story. It doesn't matter if everyone traveled or no one traveled. 
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  • Vedd Hedd
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    It could very well be that one person got sick and recovered, but someone else got sick. Plus Covid takes a while to recover from, especially if they have long covid already.
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  • Vedd Hedd
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    Also, the idea that less travel means less pollution is crazy. Those flights are already happening, despite 12 pearl jam shows.
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