Respect the travelling fans...

Get_Right

100 Pacer said:

Get_Right said:

GlowGirl said:

Get_Right said:

bootlegger10 said:

Get_Right said:

lastexitlondon said:

If everyone just went to the nearest show instead of travel if they cancel you lose nothing really 

I have never quite understood why fans pay thousands of dollars for travel and hotels to see Pearl Jam concerts. I have done so in the US for Ohana or other festivals, but that involves three days of music. I may be biased since I live in the Northeast US, but I still do not get it.

You are biased as in NE USA.   Many cities you would have to travel long distances or else never see the band at all, or every ten years.

Many work the shows into vacations.  I have seen PJ in 80 cities and 20 countries.  More about travel than seeing the band. 

Some meet up with friends from out of town at shows and an excuse to meet somewhere.

I like that answer, "more about travel than seeing the band." I wish more fans had that attitude.

I planned 6 days in London, and 6 days in Berlin - so it was about taking a vacation with seeing PJ as a small part of it - but the shows are why I picked these cities. 

Understood, but that was kind of my point, you probably spent a small fortune on tickets and to travel to Europe for 12 days. Europe is great to visit, especially if you have never been there, but I would guess the main attraction for you was to see the shows.

People are entitled to feel any and all disappointment certainly and some handle it better than others. Social media has made it possible for all the travelling fans to easily connect while on the road and what’s been exceptionally heartwarming to see is multiple groups of fans congregating at pubs, clubs, other shows, hiking trails, art galleries, etc. marking the most out of their travel experience. No one is arguing the shows wouldn’t have been appreciated but once cancelled other highlights have sprung up. People are having fun regardless.

I agree with what you say. But there sure has been a ton of complaining and there seem to be many folks that just do not understand this band. They cancel and move on, there are no explanations to be provided, they are not rescheduling anytime soon, and there will be no 10c only concert to makeup for the cancellations. That is the reality. But it is great to see many fans that are positive, take it stride, and still enjoy themselves. 

seanclax

Get_Right said:

100 Pacer said:

Get_Right said:

GlowGirl said:

Get_Right said:

bootlegger10 said:

Get_Right said:

lastexitlondon said:

If everyone just went to the nearest show instead of travel if they cancel you lose nothing really 

I have never quite understood why fans pay thousands of dollars for travel and hotels to see Pearl Jam concerts. I have done so in the US for Ohana or other festivals, but that involves three days of music. I may be biased since I live in the Northeast US, but I still do not get it.

You are biased as in NE USA.   Many cities you would have to travel long distances or else never see the band at all, or every ten years.

Many work the shows into vacations.  I have seen PJ in 80 cities and 20 countries.  More about travel than seeing the band. 

Some meet up with friends from out of town at shows and an excuse to meet somewhere.

I like that answer, "more about travel than seeing the band." I wish more fans had that attitude.

I planned 6 days in London, and 6 days in Berlin - so it was about taking a vacation with seeing PJ as a small part of it - but the shows are why I picked these cities. 

Understood, but that was kind of my point, you probably spent a small fortune on tickets and to travel to Europe for 12 days. Europe is great to visit, especially if you have never been there, but I would guess the main attraction for you was to see the shows.

People are entitled to feel any and all disappointment certainly and some handle it better than others. Social media has made it possible for all the travelling fans to easily connect while on the road and what’s been exceptionally heartwarming to see is multiple groups of fans congregating at pubs, clubs, other shows, hiking trails, art galleries, etc. marking the most out of their travel experience. No one is arguing the shows wouldn’t have been appreciated but once cancelled other highlights have sprung up. People are having fun regardless.

I agree with what you say. But there sure has been a ton of complaining and there seem to be many folks that just do not understand this band. They cancel and move on, there are no explanations to be provided, they are not rescheduling anytime soon, and there will be no 10c only concert to makeup for the cancellations. That is the reality. But it is great to see many fans that are positive, take it stride, and still enjoy themselves. 

Indy got rescheduled.
And let's be real, nobody fucking complained more than the people who went to Indy, Jesus christ it went on for months

on2legs

Most of the 2020 US Tour was rescheduled.  

seanclax

on2legs said:

Most of the 2020 US Tour was rescheduled.  

2020 euro tour to.
That was different though.

on2legs

seanclax said:

on2legs said:

Most of the 2020 US Tour was rescheduled.  

2020 euro tour to.
That was different though.

It’s definitely different - these Euro shows are canceled and money is being refunded without promise of a return. I’m just speaking to the comment about Pearl Jam not rescheduling.  They did for just about an entire tour.  

seanclax

on2legs said:

seanclax said:

on2legs said:

Most of the 2020 US Tour was rescheduled.  

2020 euro tour to.
That was different though.

It’s definitely different - these Euro shows are canceled and money is being refunded without promise of a return. I’m just speaking to the comment about Pearl Jam not rescheduling.  They did for just about an entire tour.  

Yeah because of covid.
Every single show was rescheduled. Its not like it has been recently where they have started a tour and missed shows during it.

Zod

I imagine at this point.. they're probably not wanting to commit to going back to Europe next year, and there's logistics or band member commitments that prevent them from relocating the dates to the end of the current leg?

This has to be wearing on them.   Having to cancel dates every time they hit the road.  I doubt they're happy it keeps happening.  If you postpone it generally obligates you to go back and do the thing.   Cancelling lets you have a blank slate the next time you want to tour.

I guess it's the new normal.   It makes me appreciate even more what they went through to make the Oakland 2022 shows happen, which luckily kept me from missing shows. I also feel lucky that Vancouver was the first shows of this years tour.   Odds of things going off the rails at the first show are slim

THEBIBLEISTEN

kramer73 said:

Inexcusable?  I hope you never get sick.  

This post is a joke.  

+1. The OP thinks PJ broke their special bond because they got sick 

Get_Right

Zod said:

I imagine at this point.. they're probably not wanting to commit to going back to Europe next year, and there's logistics or band member commitments that prevent them from relocating the dates to the end of the current leg?

This has to be wearing on them.   Having to cancel dates every time they hit the road.  I doubt they're happy it keeps happening.  If you postpone it generally obligates you to go back and do the thing.   Cancelling lets you have a blank slate the next time you want to tour.

I guess it's the new normal.   It makes me appreciate even more what they went through to make the Oakland 2022 shows happen, which luckily kept me from missing shows. I also feel lucky that Vancouver was the first shows of this years tour.   Odds of things going off the rails at the first show are slim

Agree that COVID was different. I think they dislike cancelling and disappointing the fans, but I doubt it is wearing on them. At this point, it is part of their careers as established touring musicians. Sort of like being in business and not every presentation is a home run. You move on to the next one.

Gern Blansten

seanclax said:

Get_Right said:

100 Pacer said:

Get_Right said:

GlowGirl said:

Get_Right said:

bootlegger10 said:

Get_Right said:

lastexitlondon said:

If everyone just went to the nearest show instead of travel if they cancel you lose nothing really 

I have never quite understood why fans pay thousands of dollars for travel and hotels to see Pearl Jam concerts. I have done so in the US for Ohana or other festivals, but that involves three days of music. I may be biased since I live in the Northeast US, but I still do not get it.

You are biased as in NE USA.   Many cities you would have to travel long distances or else never see the band at all, or every ten years.

Many work the shows into vacations.  I have seen PJ in 80 cities and 20 countries.  More about travel than seeing the band. 

Some meet up with friends from out of town at shows and an excuse to meet somewhere.

I like that answer, "more about travel than seeing the band." I wish more fans had that attitude.

I planned 6 days in London, and 6 days in Berlin - so it was about taking a vacation with seeing PJ as a small part of it - but the shows are why I picked these cities. 

Understood, but that was kind of my point, you probably spent a small fortune on tickets and to travel to Europe for 12 days. Europe is great to visit, especially if you have never been there, but I would guess the main attraction for you was to see the shows.

People are entitled to feel any and all disappointment certainly and some handle it better than others. Social media has made it possible for all the travelling fans to easily connect while on the road and what’s been exceptionally heartwarming to see is multiple groups of fans congregating at pubs, clubs, other shows, hiking trails, art galleries, etc. marking the most out of their travel experience. No one is arguing the shows wouldn’t have been appreciated but once cancelled other highlights have sprung up. People are having fun regardless.

I agree with what you say. But there sure has been a ton of complaining and there seem to be many folks that just do not understand this band. They cancel and move on, there are no explanations to be provided, they are not rescheduling anytime soon, and there will be no 10c only concert to makeup for the cancellations. That is the reality. But it is great to see many fans that are positive, take it stride, and still enjoy themselves. 

Indy got rescheduled.
And let's be real, nobody fucking complained more than the people who went to Indy, Jesus christ it went on for months

lol...and then they complained when it was rescheduled for a Monday night

on2legs

seanclax said:

on2legs said:

seanclax said:

on2legs said:

Most of the 2020 US Tour was rescheduled.  

2020 euro tour to.
That was different though.

It’s definitely different - these Euro shows are canceled and money is being refunded without promise of a return. I’m just speaking to the comment about Pearl Jam not rescheduling.  They did for just about an entire tour.  

Yeah because of covid.
Every single show was rescheduled. Its not like it has been recently where they have started a tour and missed shows during it.

Indy, no?

HughFreakingDillon

is this THE most entitled and whiny fanbase on the planet? JFC. They cancel due to illness and people write shit like this. Look at all the stops they pulled out on that tour where Matt got sick, and whomever else and Josh had to play nearly every fucking instrument at a few shows. This band does NOT cancel lightly. Not much you can do when it's the lead singer. You want Scott Stapp up there singing Bee Girl?

This is the reality we're living in now. STFU with your entitlement. 

THEBIBLEISTEN

HughFreakingDillon said:

is this THE most entitled and whiny fanbase on the planet? JFC. They cancel due to illness and people write shit like this. Look at all the stops they pulled out on that tour where Matt got sick, and whomever else and Josh had to play nearly every fucking instrument at a few shows. This band does NOT cancel lightly. Not much you can do when it's the lead singer. You want Scott Stapp up there singing Bee Girl?

This is the reality we're living in now. STFU with your entitlement. 

Bravo!!!

TahoeJeff

HughFreakingDillon said:

is this THE most entitled and whiny fanbase on the planet? JFC. They cancel due to illness and people write shit like this. Look at all the stops they pulled out on that tour where Matt got sick, and whomever else and Josh had to play nearly every fucking instrument at a few shows. This band does NOT cancel lightly. Not much you can do when it's the lead singer. You want Scott Stapp up there singing Bee Girl?

This is the reality we're living in now. STFU with your entitlement. 

I don't know that I'd ask for it or WANT it, but I would certainly watch Scott Stapp up there doing Bee Girl for the novelty/hilarity of it. LOL

JK109224

If you're in a position where a thought such as "this band owes me something" enters your mind then you need to just check that.

deb1211

HughFreakingDillon said:

is this THE most entitled and whiny fanbase on the planet? JFC. They cancel due to illness and people write shit like this. Look at all the stops they pulled out on that tour where Matt got sick, and whomever else and Josh had to play nearly every fucking instrument at a few shows. This band does NOT cancel lightly. Not much you can do when it's the lead singer. You want Scott Stapp up there singing Bee Girl?

This is the reality we're living in now. STFU with your entitlement. 

Hear hear

elvistheking44

HughFreakingDillon said:

is this THE most entitled and whiny fanbase on the planet? JFC. They cancel due to illness and people write shit like this. Look at all the stops they pulled out on that tour where Matt got sick, and whomever else and Josh had to play nearly every fucking instrument at a few shows. This band does NOT cancel lightly. Not much you can do when it's the lead singer. You want Scott Stapp up there singing Bee Girl?

This is the reality we're living in now. STFU with your entitlement. 

Said it before and I’ll say it again…..the worst part of Pearl Jam is the fans.

bootlegger10

The fans turned on them quickly over these ticket prices.  Kinda sad.