Berlin Officially Cancelled

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  • Tom G
    Tom G United Kingdom Posts: 10
    Feel for everyone that was headed to the cancelled shows! Heads up guys!
  • Hoccapuk
    Hoccapuk Posts: 538
    Haijay said:
    Hoccapuk said:
    I think the biggest lasting damage is the loyal fan base is done traveling.  From now on you will see either smaller venues or larger venues that are half filled.  I think the damage is done…
    OH NO!!!! You mean those hundred or so  peeps all in the pit, out of the 20,000 or more “regular” fans filling up the venues? Yep, club and theatre circuit starting in 2025, sad sad sad🙄🙄🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
    Not the “hundred or so fans” but anyone in Europe who traveled and had to pay airfare and hotels etc  who have been out a lot of money who this has happened to multiple times the last few years.  The tour was already not selling well in Europe…this latest round will not help going forward.
  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    Muffin The Mule said:
    Daron Oshay said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    I’m done. 
    Ok
    Are you sitting in your Berlin hotel room reading this? Are you? Well? Huh? 

    It is unfortunate and I feel for anyone traveling to see shows that get canceled due to illness.  That said I can't blame the band for getting ill - sadly post COVID plans can change as fast as a coin flip.  I hope anyone in Berlin currently can do some sightseeing and take the poster money and have a nice meal out and about
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 448
    seanclax said:
    ForceofNature101 said:
    While it is very unfortunate and I feel for those who had tickets and especially who traveled for these gigs, I am eagerly waiting for the dust to settle so there can be a bit more rationality with it all reaction-wise

    It sucks however COVID is still a thing in 2024.  Just because people are bummed about it doesn't mean the fanbase is done with PJ and they will be forced to play smaller places now because the hardcore fanbase is tired of them getting ill beyond their control
    The hard-core fanbase isn't enough to fill these places in Europe now. It'll be one night arena shows for each country next time. 
    The hard core fanbase has NEVER been enough to fill up any place for any band. You guys WAY overestimate the hardcores. Its the 30-60-90 people that camp out for rail, and most of the people in the pit. Thats pretty much it, the rest are only lowly-ass fans of the band and the casuals. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    ForceofNature101 said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    Daron Oshay said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    I’m done. 
    Ok
    Are you sitting in your Berlin hotel room reading this? Are you? Well? Huh? 

    It is unfortunate and I feel for anyone traveling to see shows that get canceled due to illness.  That said I can't blame the band for getting ill - sadly post COVID plans can change as fast as a coin flip.  I hope anyone in Berlin currently can do some sightseeing and take the poster money and have a nice meal out and about
    Has to do with age and general health more than Covid I would think.  Flu has been going around much longer than Covid and we never saw this many cancelations.  
  • sdharv1919
    sdharv1919 Traverse City, MI Posts: 27
    bootlegger10 said:
    ForceofNature101 said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    Daron Oshay said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    I’m done. 
    Ok
    Are you sitting in your Berlin hotel room reading this? Are you? Well? Huh? 

    It is unfortunate and I feel for anyone traveling to see shows that get canceled due to illness.  That said I can't blame the band for getting ill - sadly post COVID plans can change as fast as a coin flip.  I hope anyone in Berlin currently can do some sightseeing and take the poster money and have a nice meal out and about
    Has to do with age and general health more than Covid I would think.  Flu has been going around much longer than Covid and we never saw this many cancelations.  
     Correct.
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  • one_stone
    one_stone Posts: 298
    Wow - Thats 5 out of 5 of the last PJ shows I wanted to go to cancelled for me! (Vienna - Prague - London - 2x Berlin). Defintely on a streak here... 
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,817
    sdharv1919 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    ForceofNature101 said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    Daron Oshay said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    I’m done. 
    Ok
    Are you sitting in your Berlin hotel room reading this? Are you? Well? Huh? 

    It is unfortunate and I feel for anyone traveling to see shows that get canceled due to illness.  That said I can't blame the band for getting ill - sadly post COVID plans can change as fast as a coin flip.  I hope anyone in Berlin currently can do some sightseeing and take the poster money and have a nice meal out and about
    Has to do with age and general health more than Covid I would think.  Flu has been going around much longer than Covid and we never saw this many cancelations.  
     Correct.
    You don't know that...

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,530
    edited June 2024
    nvm
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  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    Haijay said:
    seanclax said:
    ForceofNature101 said:
    While it is very unfortunate and I feel for those who had tickets and especially who traveled for these gigs, I am eagerly waiting for the dust to settle so there can be a bit more rationality with it all reaction-wise

    It sucks however COVID is still a thing in 2024.  Just because people are bummed about it doesn't mean the fanbase is done with PJ and they will be forced to play smaller places now because the hardcore fanbase is tired of them getting ill beyond their control
    The hard-core fanbase isn't enough to fill these places in Europe now. It'll be one night arena shows for each country next time. 
    The hard core fanbase has NEVER been enough to fill up any place for any band. You guys WAY overestimate the hardcores. Its the 30-60-90 people that camp out for rail, and most of the people in the pit. Thats pretty much it, the rest are only lowly-ass fans of the band and the casuals. 
    And you way underestimate the amount of casual fans who will pay £160 to see them when the foo fighters and green day are charging £90
  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    edited June 2024
    bootlegger10 said:
    ForceofNature101 said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    Daron Oshay said:
    Muffin The Mule said:
    I’m done. 
    Ok
    Are you sitting in your Berlin hotel room reading this? Are you? Well? Huh? 

    It is unfortunate and I feel for anyone traveling to see shows that get canceled due to illness.  That said I can't blame the band for getting ill - sadly post COVID plans can change as fast as a coin flip.  I hope anyone in Berlin currently can do some sightseeing and take the poster money and have a nice meal out and about
    Has to do with age and general health more than Covid I would think.  Flu has been going around much longer than Covid and we never saw this many cancelations.  

    Although that said I know that I have had COVID the past 4 years way more frequently than the flu - I believe 3 times if not 4 counting early 2020 right before lockdowns occured.  The current strain is very easy to get and spread, I just think that currently it is one of the bigger obstacles in any band touring currently compared to other infectious sicknesses

    Not that I know for sure what Ed or the band has, but in general when it comes to being able to count on future concert dates - since COVID, there has and will be an element of elevated risk when clicking "buy"
    Post edited by ForceofNature101 on
  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    one_stone said:
    Wow - Thats 5 out of 5 of the last PJ shows I wanted to go to cancelled for me! (Vienna - Prague - London - 2x Berlin). Defintely on a streak here... 
    Please say your not going to Barcelona 🤣
  • jonbond1779
    jonbond1779 London, UK Posts: 1,642
    one_stone said:
    Wow - Thats 5 out of 5 of the last PJ shows I wanted to go to cancelled for me! (Vienna - Prague - London - 2x Berlin). Defintely on a streak here... 
    Wow that is unlucky - I'm on 3 shows and I thought that was bad. Sorry to hear that! 
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  • jimmerpro
    jimmerpro Frisco TX Posts: 46
    The pandemic is over.  No one else cancels like this.   They must just be sickly than most. Time to hang it up.  Short play list and cancellations?  Stop wasting our money 
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  • one_stone
    one_stone Posts: 298
    seanclax said:
    one_stone said:
    Wow - Thats 5 out of 5 of the last PJ shows I wanted to go to cancelled for me! (Vienna - Prague - London - 2x Berlin). Defintely on a streak here... 
    Please say your not going to Barcelona 🤣
    Nope - but keep on joking about it and I might just revenge-buy a ticket for it :lol:
  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    edited June 2024
    jimmerpro said:
    The pandemic is over.  No one else cancels like this.   They must just be sickly than most. Time to hang it up.  Short play list and cancellations?  Stop wasting our money 

    COVID is definitely not over, I had a family member who got vaccinated where it knocked the wind out of their sails for around 5 days last month

    Other bands and artists have indeed had to cancel shows

    And 25 songs is not a short play list.  I know news of this sucks, and I am not saying Pearl Jam is infallible.  But we need to be rational if we are to critique, and its certainly not a reason for PJ to "hang it up" lol
    Post edited by ForceofNature101 on
  • Jcanr20
    Jcanr20 Illinois Posts: 174
    Personally, I think it's Ed's voice.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    Jcanr20 said:
    Personally, I think it's Ed's voice.
    In one of the interviews for the new record he mentioned how treating his vocal cords with kid gloves actually made them more susceptible for damage.  Bono made the comment in his fan letters on Sirius that Ed said he doesn’t take care of his voice and what it sounds like each day is all part of the art.

    We can only speculate and trust that when the band commits to a tour they prepare accordingly.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,740
    jimmerpro said:
    The pandemic is over.  No one else cancels like this.   They must just be sickly than most. Time to hang it up.  Short play list and cancellations?  Stop wasting our money 
    being classified as a global pandemic is over, yes, but just like the spanish flu, covid is here to stay. it's the reality. and it doesn't have a season. 
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