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I've heard she stays out to late, and has nothing in her brain. At least, that's what people say. :i_dunno:pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world."I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
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Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.Wrigley 7/19/2013
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That scarf that Taylor gave Jake better be a one of a kind Gucci to make all that fuss about.0
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There's only so much marketing can do for a crap product. Sure, sales might be inflated because she release 18 different versions of an album, but packed arenas and zillions of fans don't come from marketing.schaefferlax said:
Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.
Maybe she puts narcotics in her songs?"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
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This is just weird. It's a combination of both. Not everything she releases is great, but she does release some great songs and she's accessible and engaging with her fans. Not everyone wants to be '95 Pearl Jam and try to avoid fame.schaefferlax said:
Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades.schaefferlax said:
Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
In the pop music genre, there are actually a few song writers that are specialists in their ability to write smash hits. Music producers too. Many artists use the same writers / producers, but some artists just have the "it" factor I guess, which is the over arching talent and ability to help them rise above their peers. Then the marketing is just rocket fuel at that point.I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning0
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"Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmaoBF25394 said:
You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades.schaefferlax said:
Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.Wrigley 7/19/2013
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Wrigley 8/31/2024
Baltimore 9/12/2024
Fenway 9/15/20240 -
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"What you gonna say, but Ole`"schaefferlax said:“Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto”
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PJ has bad songs. Taylor has never written a PJ caliber song.tbergs said:
"What you gonna say, but Ole`"schaefferlax said:“Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto”
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it’s very strange how many people in this thread claim to not want to hear about Taylor Swift and yet will not shut up about Taylor Swift.0
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This, so hard.kmcmanus said:it’s very strange how many people in this thread claim to not want to hear about Taylor Swift and yet will not shut up about Taylor Swift.
Pretty soon we need to change the title to the T***** S**** Discussion Thread. :rofl:
Back to the regularly scheduled programming....
I want to go to Dublin/Chicago/Ohana......and I also can't make myself pull the trigger on any of them.Anything you lose from being honest
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Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.0 -
The scarf is a metaphor.YourDirtisMyfood said:That scarf that Taylor gave Jake better be a one of a kind Gucci to make all that fuss about.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
"All Too Well," "August," "Invisible String," "Anti-Hero"-- I could go on and on and on. Again, taste is subjective, but dismissing Taylor Swift's ability as a songwriter is basically admitting either to being ignorant about songwriting or ignorant about her body of work. Quoting a line from a virtual B-side is not proving what you think it proves. I could quote you some pretty cringeworthy Eddie Vedder lyrics; it doesn't mean he's not a great songwriter.schaefferlax said:
"Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmaoBF25394 said:
You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades.schaefferlax said:
Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.
I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
Trash, trash, trash, and more trash. In my opinion.BF25394 said:
"All Too Well," "August," "Invisible String," "Anti-Hero"-- I could go on and on and on. Again, taste is subjective, but dismissing Taylor Swift's ability as a songwriter is basically admitting either to being ignorant about songwriting or ignorant about her body of work. Quoting a line from a virtual B-side is not proving what you think it proves. I could quote you some pretty cringeworthy Eddie Vedder lyrics; it doesn't mean he's not a great songwriter.schaefferlax said:
"Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmaoBF25394 said:
You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades.schaefferlax said:
Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.Wrigley 7/19/2013
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Wrigley 8/31/2024
Baltimore 9/12/2024
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Ya we get it lolschaefferlax said:
Trash, trash, trash, and more trash. In my opinion.BF25394 said:
"All Too Well," "August," "Invisible String," "Anti-Hero"-- I could go on and on and on. Again, taste is subjective, but dismissing Taylor Swift's ability as a songwriter is basically admitting either to being ignorant about songwriting or ignorant about her body of work. Quoting a line from a virtual B-side is not proving what you think it proves. I could quote you some pretty cringeworthy Eddie Vedder lyrics; it doesn't mean he's not a great songwriter.schaefferlax said:
"Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmaoBF25394 said:
You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades.schaefferlax said:
Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.pjhawks said:
What’s wrong with commercial music? Never got this attitude. Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too. Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre.Haijay said:
You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️schaefferlax said:
To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.BF25394 said:
"Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.schaefferlax said:
Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!BF25394 said:
Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.Abe Froman said:
Have fun! To each their own.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely.Abe Froman said:I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible.I think their music and personalities suck.
Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.
If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson, she’s probably the biggest star in the world.0
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