Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread
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I said not selecting p2 decreased my odds of getting in the buildingEddieredder said:
Selecting p2 doesn't decrease your odds at all.NewfieintheUSA said:
My issue is not with not being selected, it's the fact that some people got GA to all 4 of the shows I put in for while i got nothing. I didn't select p2, I knew that decreased my odds, but selecting p2 should not increase your odds of getting GABF25394 said:
This is a very good point. There are no doubt some people who did this, either because they didn't read the instructions or because they didn't believe the instructions (or because they would rather not be in the building than in a "bad" seat).BloodMeridian80 said:
For those going O-fer, I wonder if they chose GA/P1 and P1 only. That certainly makes you more likely to go 0-fer.0 -
This, exactly thisBloodMeridian80 said:
I agree with much of what you are saying, and there will always be complaints, but a system that allows for someone to get 4 GA's out of 5 or 6 shows and another person gets 0 GA's, or even 0-1 tickets total, is a deeply flawed system (in terms of equity) and no system prior to this has been this unequal.BF25394 said:
Alternative systems might be better (though they would likely generate different complaints).PJNB said:
I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.BF25394 said:
Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.tylermoore said:
When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.BF25394 said:
No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.tylermoore said:
100%. All or nothing.scurtis said:My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.
It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.
Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.
Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.
Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.
Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.
400/5000
8% chance at getting GA for night 1.
Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =
0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.
But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.
Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.
750/5000= 0.15
So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.
I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.
Want to do the math on that?0 -
It's been a long day. Overall, I didn't do as great with the NA tour. But if you add in my Europe shows I got 5/10 total. GAs for London and both Berlin, P1 for Baltimore, and P2 for MSG N2. I didn't get anything for Seattle or Philly - so 2/7 shows for NA tour. Not great. But last year though F2F and the help of many good Ten Club friends I managed to upgrade to 5 GAs out 6 shows. So, I am ready for that challenge again.For someone who basically just refreshed their email all day like a lunatic - I am exhausted!!0
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No, they aren't. Statistics don't work that way. If you flip a coin and hit heads 5 times in a row, that doesn't mean you are more likely to hit tails the 6th time. It is still 50/50. If we both put in for GA for 6 shows, and you win the first 5 and I don't, that doesn't mean I have a better shot at hitting number 6. We both have the same chance. Sucks, but that is how it is.EBowie said:Bottom line is way too many cases of one account getting multiple GAs while another account gets zero. I understand it’s complicated and nearly impossible to make a perfect system. But whatever algorithms are being used to distribute tickets are producing lopsided results.1996: 9/29 Randall's Island 2, 10/1 Buffalo 2000: 8/27 Saratoga Springs
2003: 4/29 Albany, 5/2 Buffalo, 7/9 MSG 2 2006: 5/12 Albany, 6/3 East Rutherford 2
2008: 6/27 Hartford 2009: 10/27 Philadelphia 1 2010: 5/15 Hartford, 5/21 MSG 2
2013: 10/15 Worcester 1, 10/25 Hartford 2014: 10/1 Cincinnati2016: 5/2 MSG 2, 8/5 Fenway 1, 11/7 Temple of the Dog MSG
2018: 9/2 Fenway 12020: 3/30 MSG 2022: 9/11 MSG 2023: 9/10 Noblesville
2024: 9/3 MSG 1, 9/4 MSG 2 , 9/15 Fenway 1, 9/17 Fenway 20 -
No, I did mean to find out that I didn't get picked for the lottery. Which I assume is the case for Philly 2 since I did get a congratulatory email for Philly 1.Vedd Hedd said:
I think they mean credit card declined, as in they got selected but the card was declined.Wolf359 said:kid canada said:Wrigley 1 GA yes. Are they sending notifications if your request gets declined as well?
The decline emails come out after all the winner emails. Basically you get a summary email that tells you which of your entries were chosen and which were "unfulfilled"
I think that answer is yes, if you got selected, and the card declined, you would get an email.
If you DONT get chosen for the lottery, those will come later this week.'96: Toronto / '00: Toronto, Montreal / '03: Buffalo, State College, Toronto, Montreal, NYC I & II, Hershey / '04: Toledo, Grand Rapids / '05: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto / '06: Toronto I & II / '07: Chicago (The Vic), Lolla / '09: Toronto / '11: PJ20 I & II, Montreal, Toronto I & II / '13: London ON, Wrigley, Buffalo, Brooklyn I & II / '16: Toronto I & II, Fenway I & II / '18: London UK I, Wrigley I & II, Fenway I0 -
Any Baltimore confirms?"Goddamn Romans. Sure know how to make a ... drum room." --Matt Cameron0
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bootleg said:
Would probably help if we had more data. Like how many tix are available to begin with and what % of those tix are GA etc.. like is it 10% Ga, 60% P1, 30% P2. Then you could calculate the different types of outcomes you would expect to see. I think the only odd one that stood out to me was LA. Didn’t see anyone report on getting GA one night and P1 or P2 the next. Seemed like they were all reporting GA for both or P1 for both.BF25394 said:
Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.tylermoore said:
When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.BF25394 said:
No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.tylermoore said:
100%. All or nothing.scurtis said:My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.
It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.
Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.
Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.
4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.250 -
Yes, priority needs to be part of this. I don’t complain on here much but losing the one Wrigley show I put in for while others get GA for both would not happen with priority.BloodMeridian80 said:
I agree with much of what you are saying, and there will always be complaints, but a system that allows for someone to get 4 GA's out of 5 or 6 shows and another person gets 0 GA's, or even 0-1 tickets total, is a deeply flawed system (in terms of equity) and no system prior to this has been this unequal.BF25394 said:
Alternative systems might be better (though they would likely generate different complaints).PJNB said:
I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.BF25394 said:
Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.tylermoore said:
When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.BF25394 said:
No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.tylermoore said:
100%. All or nothing.scurtis said:My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.
It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.
Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.
Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.
Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.
Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.
400/5000
8% chance at getting GA for night 1.
Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =
0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.
But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.
Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.
750/5000= 0.15
So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.
I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.
Want to do the math on that?This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0 -
Agreed that is how this system is, but it doesn't need to be this wayseanwon said:
No, they aren't. Statistics don't work that way. If you flip a coin and hit heads 5 times in a row, that doesn't mean you are more likely to hit tails the 6th time. It is still 50/50. If we both put in for GA for 6 shows, and you win the first 5 and I don't, that doesn't mean I have a better shot at hitting number 6. We both have the same chance. Sucks, but that is how it is.EBowie said:Bottom line is way too many cases of one account getting multiple GAs while another account gets zero. I understand it’s complicated and nearly impossible to make a perfect system. But whatever algorithms are being used to distribute tickets are producing lopsided results.0 -
So the way you break this system is everyone chooses every show and then swaps through P2P on TM. Is that where this is headed? I only tried for two shows and got none as of now.Touring Fan since 19960
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I’d like to see poll results on those who think the current system is good versus when they joined the fan club. Gee whiz, I wonder what those numbers would look like.0
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WOW! ( GA 9 out of 11)PJNB said:
I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.BF25394 said:
Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.tylermoore said:
When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.BF25394 said:
No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.tylermoore said:
100%. All or nothing.scurtis said:My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.
It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.
Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.
Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.
Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.
Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.
400/5000
8% chance at getting GA for night 1.
Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =
0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.
But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.
Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.
750/5000= 0.15
So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.
I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.
Want to do the math on that?
Think you'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning...............TWICE!Post edited by cutz on0 -
Always liked the idea in a lotto type system that more years of seniority gets you more chances in the lotto. So 30 years might get you 3 entries. 20 gets you 2 etc.. so it would be a weighted lotto. Same concept in a priority system. 30 years you get to pick 3 shows as your priority etc…southp said:I’d like to see seniority used at least to get you one or two guaranteed show.Something like this..30+ years guaranteed 3 shows
20+ years 2 shows
10+ years 1 show0 -
Alot of the people who won 7+ shows are people who have been in the TC along time...EBowie said:I’d like to see poll results on those who think the current system is good versus when they joined the fan club. Gee whiz, I wonder what those numbers would look like.0 -
those that preordered dark matter got first dibs. from there it went by reverse alphabetical order0
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MSG 2 - Reserved P2
Fenway 1 - Reserved
Fenway 2 - Reserved
4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.250 -
I did pretty good.Portland GA
Sacramento GA
Las Vegas 2 P1
LA1 GA
LA2 GA
Seattle 2 GAHaven’t heard anything about Philly or Wrigley but it’s not a big deal if I don’t get them.0 -
I don’t post much anymore, I’m not normally this much of a whiner. But I’m bitter. It’s legit pissing me off to see people get like 5 or 6 shows while I get zip. I don’t care what system has been used in the past, this to me is the worst. Maybe it’s cause this is the first time I have been completely shut out.
Based on what I’m seeing. The strategy would have been to put into many shows, including ones one doesn’t want, to then trade for ones that one might have wanted.
Oh well, I will get over It.
"Born on third, thinks he got a triple."0 -
Go buy a Powerball ticket now!Guy Dudebro said:I did pretty good.Portland GA
Sacramento GA
Las Vegas 2 P1
LA1 GA
LA2 GA
Seattle 2 GAHaven’t heard anything about Philly or Wrigley but it’s not a big deal if I don’t get them.0 -
I empathize with everyone who got shut out…now is an excellent time to remember that there will be a TON of opportunities between today and the day of the concert to get in. It’s an imperfect system. In the 4-6 weeks before they show there will be ticket dumps on TM. Stay at it and good luck
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