Dark Matter World Tour 2024

So I finally won or lost the conflict with myself in regard to tickets (depending on how you look at it) and put my order in for Berlin. in the process, I checked my records to see what I paid 2014 ($115 per ticket GA standing) in Berlin and what I paid 2022 ($130 per ticket GA standing). Whatever that did with me, I ended up ordering. And I must say, I almost choked when I first saw the prices. I guess it's a big wakeup call to what has been going on these past years. Nevertheless, the price development in the last 10 years is bearable, even if the total cost of one ticket is astronomical from today's point of view. I think what got me in the end was a thought about what some people pay for a football match, without even knowing what they're going to get. At least we know what we are going to get - especially from a two-night run at the Waldbühne. So now, at least I can sleep with a clean(er) conscience. I wish all you the best in making your own personal decison this time around....surely not an easy one, at least it was not for me. That being said, let the anticipation begin!

@nicknyr15 I put in for lowers only at msg.  

Get_Right said:

Merkin Baller said:

Jim Tressel said:

Maybe the tickets went up so much is because the band really really likes money like most of us? There is nothing wrong with it. Some people seems to bend over backwards coming up with other reasons why prices are so high. Inflation and others reasons play a role, but if they can charge it, they might as well maximize revenue. 

Why not all of the above?

OF course, they want to maximize their revenue and provide for their families... and they're getting older and want to play fewer shows... and they're running a business w/ employees to support... and it's expensive AF to tour post covid... I don't think it comes down to one single factor. 

It is a post COVID TM business model. They want to capture the secondary market and maximize revenue from every seat. If someone is willing to pay $400 on stubhub shouldn't the band get some of that revenue? Of course it is TM that wants that revenue and they share it with the artist. That is what is happening and that is why ticket prices are so much higher. That is why you see $800 seats on TM after the "public onsale." Those seats are not released to the public at face value. They (PJ Premium) are priced high to determine the market price and TM shares the proceeds with the artist. That is the value proposition and it is hard for the artist to say no. Companies like stubhub make millions and none of that goes to the artist. And of course, TM wants that revenue. It is not about inflation or the cost of touring IMHO.

Agreed... I forgot to include the resale market angle - things were trending this way before COVID... IIRC Taylor Swift and other acts were buying face value tickets to their own concerts and reselling them for a greater profit well before the whole Premium ticket existed. 

Is that shady? Idk... If those seats are worth way more than what they were being sold at face value, why shouldn't the artist and other people putting on the show get that revenue as opposed to some guy sitting in his basement doing nothing but buying and selling tickets on his computer? Granted, I don't think Ticketmaster needs the money, but again... if the tickets are worth the premium price, it should be going to the people putting on the show as opposed to an entity completely unrelated to the event. 

The growth and revenue behind the resale market is as much responsible for these high prices as anything else, and that sucks for those of us who can't / won't / don't want to spend $200 a ticket, because there's no shortage of people who do. 

If PJ cared enough, maybe they could go another route and take extra steps to prevent resale and keep the ticket cost low, but OTOH it's a business for them too; and / or maybe they don't care as much as they used to and can't be bothered. 

Since ticket prices have gone up, and I’m Ikinda on the edge of its worth it to me, I’d like to know if they are gonna go back to the longer sets or go with shorter ones as of the last year or so. 

FrancisGersbach said:

FrancisGersbach said:

Hey everyone,

I need some help please:

This is my current situation (screen shot below) and not very technically minded... I've mailed what I think is the support mail, hoping for an answer soon. Tried across multiple devices and browsers, but no luck... Trying to buy for Europe leg. 

Has anyone else had these issues?
Can anyone give me a step by step to fix this on Safari?

ps. Yes, the tickets are pricey - I'm on a South African budget and so starved to watch Pearl Jam play - that I'd be willing to pay almost anything to see them live - and have already travelled out of the country once to see Pearl Jam.

I've looked at other show prices and seen they are very much in line.

We all wanted new music, a tour and the chance for tickets - prices have risen everywhere - arenas have been underutilised and probably charge more than ever for the facility. Not to mention we don't even have to pay for the CD / Vinyl anymore to play their music over and over. 

Let's just learn to be grateful... it'll help, I promise. 

While I wait to be considered human again...

Has anyone posted the Dublin 🇮🇪 Venue Map and pricing? I feel I read through the thread - but might have missed it... Really considering that as an option once I can enter. 

Dublin [Marlay Park] is standing room only [it's an outdoor venue].  Pricing is e177

UseUrIllusions said:

JackD. said:

Gravey1975 said:

CornishMan said:

I've read everything over and over and I'm still a bit confused about when seniority kicks in if you selected a ticket option that could be standing OR seated such as London & Manchester.

Obviously it is a lottery just to get into the building.  But.... assuming you win that lottery does it mean that members with the lowest 10C numbers will be automatically allocated standing, while the higher 10C numbers will be seated?

OR, is it totally random whether you get allocated seated or standing? (With your 10C number then determining how good your seats are if you're given seats).

That my friend is definitely not clear. And I don't think anybody really knows. My guess would be that it'll only kick in for seat allocation. But that's just a guess.

I had the same confusion but tried to explain it to myself with sense:

Senority doesn‘t play a role in the lottery. You win or lose depending on availability not senority.

If you won and chose „GA or Seating“ they would start giving away GA. Why? Cause it would be implausible to give away Seating if others chose only that and GA is still available. If GA is gone, people who chose „GA or Seating“ or „Only Seating“ are in the same ballot and get seats by senority once they won.

So: Draw for „GA or Seating“ > give all the winners GA > Put losers in the ballot with „Only Seating“ > draw again > give winners seats by senority

I doubt they would do two draws. If you’re selected they will give u what’s available based on your selection. Pretty simple. After that they send it over to the ten club that determine where your seats will be.

Well they have to. If you have 1000 tickets and 2000 ticket applications, you can‘t draw 1000 because you don‘t know if under those 1000 are „enough“ to meet your supply for GA. Those 1000 could hypothetically all want seats. A demand you couldn‘t supply as part of your tickets are GA.

You have to give away GA first, therefore draw twice.

Clare Parsons said:

FrancisGersbach said:

FrancisGersbach said:

Hey everyone,

I need some help please:

This is my current situation (screen shot below) and not very technically minded... I've mailed what I think is the support mail, hoping for an answer soon. Tried across multiple devices and browsers, but no luck... Trying to buy for Europe leg. 

Has anyone else had these issues?
Can anyone give me a step by step to fix this on Safari?

ps. Yes, the tickets are pricey - I'm on a South African budget and so starved to watch Pearl Jam play - that I'd be willing to pay almost anything to see them live - and have already travelled out of the country once to see Pearl Jam.

I've looked at other show prices and seen they are very much in line.

We all wanted new music, a tour and the chance for tickets - prices have risen everywhere - arenas have been underutilised and probably charge more than ever for the facility. Not to mention we don't even have to pay for the CD / Vinyl anymore to play their music over and over. 

Let's just learn to be grateful... it'll help, I promise. 

While I wait to be considered human again...

Has anyone posted the Dublin 🇮🇪 Venue Map and pricing? I feel I read through the thread - but might have missed it... Really considering that as an option once I can enter. 

Dublin [Marlay Park] is standing room only [it's an outdoor venue].  Pricing is e177

Thanks so much... with the pricing I'm trying to find "the one" - being in the home of Guinness is a big plus for this show. 

Marlay Park - Dublin

Merkin Baller said:

If PJ cared enough, maybe they could go another route and take extra steps to prevent resale and keep the ticket cost low, but OTOH it's a business for them too; and / or maybe they don't care as much as they used to and can't be bothered. 

They did, they made them non-transferable. Which the flippers figured out a workaround for immediately and which had some unintended consequences for people who bought their tix legitimately.