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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....

    ohhh fan fucking tastic!!!!

    does this mean ONLY parents should fund s hooks through property taxes then? I want a refund......
    Are you going to pay back what was spent on you to go to school as a child then?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,875
    edited October 2023
    We have immigrants spreading t.b and measles because they were not vaccinated in their country of origin.


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    We have immigrants spreading t.b and measles because they were not vaccinated in their country of origin.
    I'm asking about the States. 
  • Oh ok so if it's not in USA it doesn't count towards the topic?


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,875
    edited October 2023
    Just facts 
    Post edited by lastexitlondon on


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • It's not the fault of the person or immigration. The country they came from didn't have the vaccine program we had. At school we all had the BCG and MMR they did not


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Oh ok so if it's not in USA it doesn't count towards the topic?
    JB is saying this happens in the US. I'm asking where. I don't have a stake or say in  what happens in the UK. 
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

  • JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    That isn't blaming immigrants. 
  • JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    That isn't blaming immigrants. 
    What is it then?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    That isn't blaming immigrants. 
    What is it then?
    How is this blaming immigrants? 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

  • mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

    Nor should native born children. But if you don’t have kids, you can’t possibly understand this.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

    Nor should native born children. But if you don’t have kids, you can’t possibly understand this.
    I agree on native born too. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,057
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

    But American children don't have to be vaccinated to go to school so why should immigrant children?
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