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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    Yes. I know of two people. One I know personally and he told me his story. He had no issues before taking the COVID vaccine. The other person was the Grandpa of my daughter's teacher. I didn't speak with him directly but my daughter's teacher told me what he went through. Both are still having issues years later. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    I think you need to really cautious about asking for anecdotes,, especially around here.  A close friend has been having clots for a few years and it would be easy to conclude it's from Covid vaccine.   But he also smokes a pack a day.  So there's a 99.5% chance that is related to that.  And that percentage I just gave is made up.  It's a fact that people invent 73% of their data 106% of the time.  

    Anyway, I hope you're getting better and taking care of yourself.  And above all,  listen to your body.  If something feels off, it is.  Take it from someone that had two MIs before 50.
  • Evel K
    Evel K Posts: 582
    Evel K said:
    Someone check my math. 8 billion people in the world. 13 billion shots administered. If I use two shots and a booster that would be about 4 billion people vaccinated. I personally think that number is high and it's probably more like 2 billion people that got initial 2 and multiple boosters. Here's the math part. If 4 billion  people are vaccinated and we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death how many people could the vaccine have the potential to kill? Hint: It's 5x greater than the current covid deaths worldwide total of 7 million.
    “we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death”



    Things were different then
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Evel K said:
    Evel K said:
    Someone check my math. 8 billion people in the world. 13 billion shots administered. If I use two shots and a booster that would be about 4 billion people vaccinated. I personally think that number is high and it's probably more like 2 billion people that got initial 2 and multiple boosters. Here's the math part. If 4 billion  people are vaccinated and we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death how many people could the vaccine have the potential to kill? Hint: It's 5x greater than the current covid deaths worldwide total of 7 million.
    “we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death”



    Wait a minute... you're saying that Pfizer's legal disclosures related to their forward looking financial statements is evidence that 1% of vaccine recipients will die?  Is that a joke?

  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,061
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    I hope you are feeling better and all your tests come out ok. have a friend who had blood clots like yours in the lungs. Same symptom of being out of breath. This happened several years before Covid though. So, yours may have nothing to do with Covid or the vaccine. It just happens. But I guess it’s hard to completely know the cause. She is on a low dose blood thinner and is doing fine. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    Evel K said:
    Evel K said:
    Someone check my math. 8 billion people in the world. 13 billion shots administered. If I use two shots and a booster that would be about 4 billion people vaccinated. I personally think that number is high and it's probably more like 2 billion people that got initial 2 and multiple boosters. Here's the math part. If 4 billion  people are vaccinated and we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death how many people could the vaccine have the potential to kill? Hint: It's 5x greater than the current covid deaths worldwide total of 7 million.
    “we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death”



    huh? 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    edited October 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    I think you need to really cautious about asking for anecdotes,, especially around here.  A close friend has been having clots for a few years and it would be easy to conclude it's from Covid vaccine.   But he also smokes a pack a day.  So there's a 99.5% chance that is related to that.  And that percentage I just gave is made up.  It's a fact that people invent 73% of their data 106% of the time.  

    Anyway, I hope you're getting better and taking care of yourself.  And above all,  listen to your body.  If something feels off, it is.  Take it from someone that had two MIs before 50.
    Yeah, I'm not too worried it's connected to the vaccine. But more that its a symptom of long covid. What my doctor told me is unexplained clots under 45 years old is rare and people have been known to get clots post covid. Data relating clots to the vaccine is literally one in a million, but clots to covid is much higher. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    I think you need to really cautious about asking for anecdotes,, especially around here.  A close friend has been having clots for a few years and it would be easy to conclude it's from Covid vaccine.   But he also smokes a pack a day.  So there's a 99.5% chance that is related to that.  And that percentage I just gave is made up.  It's a fact that people invent 73% of their data 106% of the time.  

    Anyway, I hope you're getting better and taking care of yourself.  And above all,  listen to your body.  If something feels off, it is.  Take it from someone that had two MIs before 50.
    Yeah, I'm not too worried it's connected to the vaccine. But more that its a symptom of long covid. What my doctor told me is unexplained clots under 45 years old is rare and people have been known to get clots post covid. Data relating clots to the vaccine is literally one in a million, but clots to covid is much higher. 
    I see ok.  Thanks for the additional detail. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    Me!

    I went to the ER April 8th because my leg was swelling. Turns out I had a clot in my calf. There was a very small piece in my lung that the doctor said was considered "low risk" so it sounds like you had it much worse than me.

    I had a covid booster in Oct of 2022 so this would have been at least six months after that. I have not had covid to my knowledge.

    No family history. My theory was that it related to me sitting at my desk for 12 hours/day but my doctor said "you've been doing that for 20 years" which is also correct.

    I'm supposed to get another scan in December. I'm on Eliquis right now. Hoping it fucking goes away.

    Best of luck to you. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?

    Oh man, sounds like a close call you had.  I hope this all clears up for you soon. 
    I know a guy who had several blood clots in his lung but that was before COVID and I think it had something to do with flying or being at high altitude.  I hope your Doctors get to the cause and get it taken care of.  Take good care!
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  • Evel K
    Evel K Posts: 582
    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    Evel K said:
    Someone check my math. 8 billion people in the world. 13 billion shots administered. If I use two shots and a booster that would be about 4 billion people vaccinated. I personally think that number is high and it's probably more like 2 billion people that got initial 2 and multiple boosters. Here's the math part. If 4 billion  people are vaccinated and we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death how many people could the vaccine have the potential to kill? Hint: It's 5x greater than the current covid deaths worldwide total of 7 million.
    “we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death”



    Wait a minute... you're saying that Pfizer's legal disclosures related to their forward looking financial statements is evidence that 1% of vaccine recipients will die?  Is that a joke?

    I'm  just using the information available to make my own decisions. I never said here's the proof or anything like that. What this does say is the ACTUAL results could differ materially and ADVERSELY, and that includes the stated rate of vaccine effectiveness and SAFETY.  My original statement was to show the possible impact of a 1% adverse events leading to death compared to worldwide covid deaths. I personally received two shots and no boosters of the Moderna vaccine.  And no, I wouldn't disrespect the people here or anywhere else who have lost loved ones to Covid, by making a joke.
    Things were different then
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Evel K said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    Evel K said:
    Someone check my math. 8 billion people in the world. 13 billion shots administered. If I use two shots and a booster that would be about 4 billion people vaccinated. I personally think that number is high and it's probably more like 2 billion people that got initial 2 and multiple boosters. Here's the math part. If 4 billion  people are vaccinated and we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death how many people could the vaccine have the potential to kill? Hint: It's 5x greater than the current covid deaths worldwide total of 7 million.
    “we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death”



    Wait a minute... you're saying that Pfizer's legal disclosures related to their forward looking financial statements is evidence that 1% of vaccine recipients will die?  Is that a joke?

    I'm  just using the information available to make my own decisions. I never said here's the proof or anything like that. What this does say is the ACTUAL results could differ materially and ADVERSELY, and that includes the stated rate of vaccine effectiveness and SAFETY.  My original statement was to show the possible impact of a 1% adverse events leading to death compared to worldwide covid deaths. I personally received two shots and no boosters of the Moderna vaccine.  And no, I wouldn't disrespect the people here or anywhere else who have lost loved ones to Covid, by making a joke.
    I think we can all figure out what 1% of a huge number is.  It proves absolutely nothing.  Let's now just imagine that the rate of anaphylaxis from the vaccine is say... 5 incidents per 1MM shots administered.  That's .0005% rate of significant adverse effect.  Now multiply that by your rando 4 billion people.  That's 20k cases of adverse reaction (not death, but adverse).  Checking my notes, but I'm pretty sure that's lower than the COVID death totals and by the way, that rate of anaphylaxis is the actual CDC published rate.  So instead of inventing numbers, use real ones.  
  • Evel K
    Evel K Posts: 582
    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    Evel K said:
    Someone check my math. 8 billion people in the world. 13 billion shots administered. If I use two shots and a booster that would be about 4 billion people vaccinated. I personally think that number is high and it's probably more like 2 billion people that got initial 2 and multiple boosters. Here's the math part. If 4 billion  people are vaccinated and we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death how many people could the vaccine have the potential to kill? Hint: It's 5x greater than the current covid deaths worldwide total of 7 million.
    “we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death”



    Wait a minute... you're saying that Pfizer's legal disclosures related to their forward looking financial statements is evidence that 1% of vaccine recipients will die?  Is that a joke?

    I'm  just using the information available to make my own decisions. I never said here's the proof or anything like that. What this does say is the ACTUAL results could differ materially and ADVERSELY, and that includes the stated rate of vaccine effectiveness and SAFETY.  My original statement was to show the possible impact of a 1% adverse events leading to death compared to worldwide covid deaths. I personally received two shots and no boosters of the Moderna vaccine.  And no, I wouldn't disrespect the people here or anywhere else who have lost loved ones to Covid, by making a joke.
    I think we can all figure out what 1% of a huge number is.  It proves absolutely nothing.  Let's now just imagine that the rate of anaphylaxis from the vaccine is say... 5 incidents per 1MM shots administered.  That's .0005% rate of significant adverse effect.  Now multiply that by your rando 4 billion people.  That's 20k cases of adverse reaction (not death, but adverse).  Checking my notes, but I'm pretty sure that's lower than the COVID death totals and by the way, that rate of anaphylaxis is the actual CDC published rate.  So instead of inventing numbers, use real ones.  
    Real numbers are 13 billion shots administered.  Seeing how it will literally be years before the true adverse events can be tallied to get an accurate percentage AND that number will be skewed by the variables of Covid/Shot/Covid, No Shots/Covid,  unreported cases and so on, the first conclusion I can make is that time will only ADD to the total number of adverse events. I am of the opinion that treating the disease should have been priority one and prevention second. There was a mad rush to market with these vaccines and the one thing that would've stopped everyone in their tracks is a viable treatment. If you don't think money played a part in all this check out who wrote this Jan/2021 article https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2021/01/31/remdesivir-covid-coronavirus/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwih4MvBkJCCAxUGjokEHfGeBsMQFnoECAwQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2VOHVioMjQ9n_mV861hGTk
    Things were different then
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    I remember when I got my first COVID vaccination someone who thought of themselves as extremely brilliant (no one here, we don't have anyone like that here :lol: ) told me "Enjoy the last three months of your life."  Well hot damn!  I must be Superman because that was almost three years ago.  Either that or they ran out of kryptonite by the time I got my shot.  I guess maybe I'm just lucky! 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Evel K said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    Evel K said:
    Someone check my math. 8 billion people in the world. 13 billion shots administered. If I use two shots and a booster that would be about 4 billion people vaccinated. I personally think that number is high and it's probably more like 2 billion people that got initial 2 and multiple boosters. Here's the math part. If 4 billion  people are vaccinated and we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death how many people could the vaccine have the potential to kill? Hint: It's 5x greater than the current covid deaths worldwide total of 7 million.
    “we end up having a 1% adverse event rate leading to death”



    Wait a minute... you're saying that Pfizer's legal disclosures related to their forward looking financial statements is evidence that 1% of vaccine recipients will die?  Is that a joke?

    I'm  just using the information available to make my own decisions. I never said here's the proof or anything like that. What this does say is the ACTUAL results could differ materially and ADVERSELY, and that includes the stated rate of vaccine effectiveness and SAFETY.  My original statement was to show the possible impact of a 1% adverse events leading to death compared to worldwide covid deaths. I personally received two shots and no boosters of the Moderna vaccine.  And no, I wouldn't disrespect the people here or anywhere else who have lost loved ones to Covid, by making a joke.
    I think we can all figure out what 1% of a huge number is.  It proves absolutely nothing.  Let's now just imagine that the rate of anaphylaxis from the vaccine is say... 5 incidents per 1MM shots administered.  That's .0005% rate of significant adverse effect.  Now multiply that by your rando 4 billion people.  That's 20k cases of adverse reaction (not death, but adverse).  Checking my notes, but I'm pretty sure that's lower than the COVID death totals and by the way, that rate of anaphylaxis is the actual CDC published rate.  So instead of inventing numbers, use real ones.  
    Real numbers are 13 billion shots administered.  Seeing how it will literally be years before the true adverse events can be tallied to get an accurate percentage AND that number will be skewed by the variables of Covid/Shot/Covid, No Shots/Covid,  unreported cases and so on, the first conclusion I can make is that time will only ADD to the total number of adverse events. I am of the opinion that treating the disease should have been priority one and prevention second. There was a mad rush to market with these vaccines and the one thing that would've stopped everyone in their tracks is a viable treatment. If you don't think money played a part in all this check out who wrote this Jan/2021 article https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2021/01/31/remdesivir-covid-coronavirus/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwih4MvBkJCCAxUGjokEHfGeBsMQFnoECAwQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2VOHVioMjQ9n_mV861hGTk
    Well I'm glad you think that treating the disease was priority one, because the CDC approved remdesivir for usage in Oct of 2020, months before the first vaccine was available.  But of course that was approved too quickly, there are too many adverse effects and deaths, and it will take years for us to really understand how many people were damaged by remdesivir.  Oh yeah, and pharma companies made money off of it...because you know... we live in the US.  
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    edited October 2023
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    Glad you are okay!  My brother (mid 40's) had issues with blood clots about 3 months ago or so.  He was unvaccinated and doesn't know that he ever got Covid.   The docs believe it was triggered due to sitting on a plane for 7 hours the day before and not standing up and walking around.  

    He went to urgent care and they basically to him if he was in his 20's it made sense to go to urgent care, but at his age he should have gone straight to the hospital with heart issues.  I think 40's is still young(ish) for heart issues.  They basically said we think you have blood clots, and there is no time to explain and you should get an ambulance to the hospital.

    Edit:  Fortunately my brother is doing fine. Thanks everyone.  
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    Glad you are okay!  My brother (mid 40's) had issues with blood clots about 3 months ago or so.  He was unvaccinated and doesn't know that he ever got Covid.   The docs believe it was triggered due to sitting on a plane for 7 hours the day before and not standing up and walking around.  

    He went to urgent care and they basically to him if he was in his 20's it made sense to go to urgent care, but at his age he should have gone straight to the hospital with heart issues.  I think 40's is still young(ish) for heart issues.  They basically said we think you have blood clots, and there is no time to explain and you should get an ambulance to the hospital.
    IIRC, Tedy Bruschi (former linebacker for the Patriots) had a stroke right after returning from the Pro Bowl in Hawaii back in 2005 or 2006 - I recall them suggesting the same reason... being sedentary on a long flight. 

    Regardless, I hope your brother's ok, and same for you, Mace... I hope whatever you have going on is manageable and nothing serious. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mace1229 said:
    So I've been trying to read more about blood clots and their relation to the vaccine and covid.

    About a month ago I found myself out of breath just walking. Trying to avoid a $5,000 ER bill I didn't going to the ER right away and got in to see my primary doctor. My oxygen was low and he said I could have my wife drive me to the ER or he was calling 911. I never did find out exactly how many blood clots in my lungs they found, I just remember the ER doctor saying they found multiple pulmonary embolisms in each of several different parts of the lung that he proceeded to name off. Has to be at least 6 or 8, maybe more. I was later told I was lucky to be alive, I had no pain or any other symptoms, so the fact it got that bad before I came in, I was very lucky.

    Still waiting on some test results, but so far they can't find a cause. Had my most recent check up Friday, and I asked about a covid link. He confirmed there is a link with post covid and getting a blood clot. But usually a few weeks or couple months later, not a full year like I had. He also said the vaccine clots are blown way out of proportion, they are one in a million, but unexplained clots after covid are much more common.

    My coworker told me her doctor told her the link was getting covid after the vaccine, but I haven't read anything that supports that.

    They ran some tests for blood disorders and certain times a cancer. If all those come back negative (like I hope), a post covid symptom seems like the most likely scenario. Haven't traveled far, haven't had surgery, no big injuries lately. 

    Anyone else know of people getting clots?
    Glad you are okay!  My brother (mid 40's) had issues with blood clots about 3 months ago or so.  He was unvaccinated and doesn't know that he ever got Covid.   The docs believe it was triggered due to sitting on a plane for 7 hours the day before and not standing up and walking around.  

    He went to urgent care and they basically to him if he was in his 20's it made sense to go to urgent care, but at his age he should have gone straight to the hospital with heart issues.  I think 40's is still young(ish) for heart issues.  They basically said we think you have blood clots, and there is no time to explain and you should get an ambulance to the hospital.
    Holy crap...hope he's doing well.

    Sitting for seven hours can lead to blood clots that would necessitate an emergency room trip for a middle-aged person? That's wild. 
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