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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,494
    brianlux said:
    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.





    Damn looks like I missed some excitement here yesterday!


    what’s frustrating as always the gop are controlling the narrative. The gop consistently polls better with topics such as inflation and the economy. The inflation was specifically caused by the insurrection, yet how come the democrats aren’t even bothered with making that argument?

    how could the insurrection cause inflation? Because trump was so preoccupied with not losing the election and trying to jerry rig a way to stay president, he fell completely asleep at the wheel and the supply chains broke down the last year of his first term.

    remember when Biden became president, and the ports in California were lined up with empty shipping containers? It took Biden a year to fix that. So why aren’t we being bombarded by this with ads?

    why has the public been allowed to forget this? What do they think a Republican will do about inflation? This is 100% Biden and the Dems fault. They get out debated all the time by the gop. They waste so much time yapping about trumps indictments, and no one other than Dems care less. Make the arguments that matter, hit your opponent at its strength, blame them for the economic problems. At least read a freaking poll, Biden, before it’s too late.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,951
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.




    if rfk jr was polling so great against biden, why go indy? read something yesterday about gop are targeting him with ads now.

    motherfucker is speaking at cpac for gods sake. 
    they see him as a threat to trump's chances now, so of course they are going to target him. he will take more votes from trump than from biden. the dems see that, because democrats are not stupid.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,109
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
      LOL! He was even a former principle. My ASS he has no idea what a fire alarm is. The left are absolute slime. The jussie smollett of the left. LOL. 
    You support a literal nazi. You can’t wash that scum off. 

    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,802
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.





    Damn looks like I missed some excitement here yesterday!


    what’s frustrating as always the gop are controlling the narrative. The gop consistently polls better with topics such as inflation and the economy. The inflation was specifically caused by the insurrection, yet how come the democrats aren’t even bothered with making that argument?

    how could the insurrection cause inflation? Because trump was so preoccupied with not losing the election and trying to jerry rig a way to stay president, he fell completely asleep at the wheel and the supply chains broke down the last year of his first term.

    remember when Biden became president, and the ports in California were lined up with empty shipping containers? It took Biden a year to fix that. So why aren’t we being bombarded by this with ads?

    why has the public been allowed to forget this? What do they think a Republican will do about inflation? This is 100% Biden and the Dems fault. They get out debated all the time by the gop. They waste so much time yapping about trumps indictments, and no one other than Dems care less. Make the arguments that matter, hit your opponent at its strength, blame them for the economic problems. At least read a freaking poll, Biden, before it’s too late.

    Exactly, L.  What you said here illustrates what I mean about Dems needing to get tough and hit on those points.  Their lack of strategy and hustle that way does not bode well.  If they fuck this one up next year and Trump slips in again, this country is screwed.

    Somebody please prove me wrong on this!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,253
    If I’m running Brandon’s reelection campaign press operation, I’m inviting the reporters and editorial page writers from all the local newspapers at every campaign stop and inviting them to a two hour meeting to discuss accomplishments and challenges and the administration’s plan to address them, with a local state/district focus. Then Brandon will make two requests of them, to fact check the claims but more importantly honestly report what was discussed, it’s okay to disagree but be honest in what you report, be factual. Mainstream big market media won’t be invited to these Q/A sessions. Let his record and grasp of the issues win them over or not.

    The election is still more than a year out and a lot can happen between now and then as evidenced by this morning’s ME news. Way too soon to panic but if a repub gets elected, yea, the US is fucked.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1
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    mickeyrat said:

    He should be expelled and I think it would be to the benefit of D's to do that.  It will essentially prevent him from running for the office again.  As it stands he can pull a Trump and run while indicted, and kick the case down the road.  That would be a disaster.  So it's time to cut ties.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,301
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    He should be expelled and I think it would be to the benefit of D's to do that.  It will essentially prevent him from running for the office again.  As it stands he can pull a Trump and run while indicted, and kick the case down the road.  That would be a disaster.  So it's time to cut ties.  

    fetterman continues to be the most vocal about resigning , at least that I have seen.  has schumer made a forceful statement?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,988
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    He should be expelled and I think it would be to the benefit of D's to do that.  It will essentially prevent him from running for the office again.  As it stands he can pull a Trump and run while indicted, and kick the case down the road.  That would be a disaster.  So it's time to cut ties.  

    fetterman continues to be the most vocal about resigning , at least that I have seen.  has schumer made a forceful statement?
    Not that I can recall.  But Booker did. He released an excellent statement on it. 
  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    he's running green party I think but....

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:

    As well he should and if found guilty, go to prison. At the least, he should be stripped of his committee assignments in the interim.
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  • josevolution
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:

    As well he should and if found guilty, go to prison. At the least, he should be stripped of his committee assignments in the interim.
    Funny you never ever hear republicans say the same thing about their own criminals Santos’s comes to mind! 
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  • JB16057
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    Democrat makes political threat to Biden over Gaza

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/19/democrats-hamas-gaza-israel-reaction-sot-lead-vpx.cnn

    "The previous president wanted to ban us and probably put us in concentration camps,” yelled Tlaib from the back of a flatbed truck parked along 3rd Street in front of the U.S. Capitol. “This one wants us just to die. That’s how it feels. Shame on them.”
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    JB16057 said:
    Democrat makes political threat to Biden over Gaza

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/19/democrats-hamas-gaza-israel-reaction-sot-lead-vpx.cnn

    "The previous president wanted to ban us and probably put us in concentration camps,” yelled Tlaib from the back of a flatbed truck parked along 3rd Street in front of the U.S. Capitol. “This one wants us just to die. That’s how it feels. Shame on them.”
    Oh the horror.
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