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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,557
    mrussel1 said:
    Yeah without a doubt I can also see him in a small rubber raft trying to save whales 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Definitely a tree hugging liberal.
    And a drag queen, I am sure.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,345
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Definitely a tree hugging liberal.
    And a drag queen, I am sure.
    Dude totally tucks and rocks heels.
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,196
    I've gotten into a back-and-forth with someone over children who identify as cats.  The person claims there is such a child at his kid's school.  I have yet to receive proof, yet I've seen several other such claims.  Does anyone happen to have proof of this phenomenon?  There was the whole "litter box in school" fiasco that I've only seen one true instance of, and that was a school in Colorado that had litter in case kids were locked in a room for a long period of time due to an active shooter.  I'm not sure if this "kids identifying as cats" stemmed from that.  Sounds ridiculous, but I suppose it's possible. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,345
    There was a member on here a few years back before this got really mainstream that said " I now will identify as a cat." and he ran with it for a bit.  His response to people would be "meow?!?"  

    I thought he was hysterical and it pissed people off which I also liked, lol.

    If you can't find that story and all it is is repeating of the same account or story and nothing new then it probably isn't rue.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,761
    I've gotten into a back-and-forth with someone over children who identify as cats.  The person claims there is such a child at his kid's school.  I have yet to receive proof, yet I've seen several other such claims.  Does anyone happen to have proof of this phenomenon?  There was the whole "litter box in school" fiasco that I've only seen one true instance of, and that was a school in Colorado that had litter in case kids were locked in a room for a long period of time due to an active shooter.  I'm not sure if this "kids identifying as cats" stemmed from that.  Sounds ridiculous, but I suppose it's possible. 
    There's no shortage of articles out there debunking this...  Most maintenance departments in schools & elsewhere have absorbent material like kitty litter to clean up messes (I keep a box of kitty litter in my basement for this exact reason) & yeah, the active shooter reasoning  makes perfect sense as the likelihood of people people being locked in a room for extended periods of time exists nowadays.... so that's fun, this bullshit narrative intended to mock trans people partly (mostly?) originated from measures put into place due to the increased number of school shootings we have. 

    Good times here in the US of A.  
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mickeyrat said:
    The vast majority of those 300k Chile marriages are 17 year olds. Many states allow 17 year olds to marry with parental permission, and I’ve never heard that was a religious vs non-religious view.. While I’d never give permission to my 17 year old, it’s hard for me to argue against it when they are allowed to be sent off to war. I have a 17 year old cousin in boot camp right now.

    Ive grown up in the church and still attend. I have many family and friends in that Christian circle. I can’t think of a single personal I personally know who’d be okay with a child marriage beyond what is legal, and most wouldn’t even give permission to their 17 year old either. I have a hard time believing this post is accurate by any stretch.

    I read many comments in that link. Seems to be full of misconceptions and false stereotypes. One was this image below. I had no idea what it was taking about. After trying to find out, all I could see was March 2022 a proposed bill to recognize common law marriage failed to provide an age requirement. It was shortly amended a few days later to include an age requirement of 18, but there were still many articles after that change accusing them republican leadership of trying to legalize child marriage of any age. This was shared well after the change. I could find no other mention of TN republicans trying to legalize child marriage other than the common law proposal.

    And,for the record, dressing your child up and posing for a political prop and spreading her image around on social media for complete strangers, especially one that intentionally spreads false information, is as much of a groomer as any other example I’ve seen here.



  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,345
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    The vast majority of those 300k Chile marriages are 17 year olds. Many states allow 17 year olds to marry with parental permission, and I’ve never heard that was a religious vs non-religious view.. While I’d never give permission to my 17 year old, it’s hard for me to argue against it when they are allowed to be sent off to war. I have a 17 year old cousin in boot camp right now.

    Ive grown up in the church and still attend. I have many family and friends in that Christian circle. I can’t think of a single personal I personally know who’d be okay with a child marriage beyond what is legal, and most wouldn’t even give permission to their 17 year old either. I have a hard time believing this post is accurate by any stretch.

    I read many comments in that link. Seems to be full of misconceptions and false stereotypes. One was this image below. I had no idea what it was taking about. After trying to find out, all I could see was March 2022 a proposed bill to recognize common law marriage failed to provide an age requirement. It was shortly amended a few days later to include an age requirement of 18, but there were still many articles after that change accusing them republican leadership of trying to legalize child marriage of any age. This was shared well after the change. I could find no other mention of TN republicans trying to legalize child marriage other than the common law proposal.

    And,for the record, dressing your child up and posing for a political prop and spreading her image around on social media for complete strangers, especially one that intentionally spreads false information, is as much of a groomer as any other example I’ve seen here.



    This is why tweets aren't news.  Just buzz words.

    I am curious about the 10yo that was married.  I wonder if they were actually 40 but were born on a leap year, wouldn't that be a lick in the dick?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited June 2023
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    The vast majority of those 300k Chile marriages are 17 year olds. Many states allow 17 year olds to marry with parental permission, and I’ve never heard that was a religious vs non-religious view.. While I’d never give permission to my 17 year old, it’s hard for me to argue against it when they are allowed to be sent off to war. I have a 17 year old cousin in boot camp right now.

    Ive grown up in the church and still attend. I have many family and friends in that Christian circle. I can’t think of a single personal I personally know who’d be okay with a child marriage beyond what is legal, and most wouldn’t even give permission to their 17 year old either. I have a hard time believing this post is accurate by any stretch.

    I read many comments in that link. Seems to be full of misconceptions and false stereotypes. One was this image below. I had no idea what it was taking about. After trying to find out, all I could see was March 2022 a proposed bill to recognize common law marriage failed to provide an age requirement. It was shortly amended a few days later to include an age requirement of 18, but there were still many articles after that change accusing them republican leadership of trying to legalize child marriage of any age. This was shared well after the change. I could find no other mention of TN republicans trying to legalize child marriage other than the common law proposal.

    And,for the record, dressing your child up and posing for a political prop and spreading her image around on social media for complete strangers, especially one that intentionally spreads false information, is as much of a groomer as any other example I’ve seen here.



    How do you join the army at 17?  I thought you had to be a legal adult, with a high school education. 

    To your punchline, I agree using your children as political props is wrong.  I see it on both sides.  I would not go so far as saying it's as bad as the criminal examples that we've shared here.  That's overstated. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,761
    edited June 2023
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    The vast majority of those 300k Chile marriages are 17 year olds. Many states allow 17 year olds to marry with parental permission, and I’ve never heard that was a religious vs non-religious view.. While I’d never give permission to my 17 year old, it’s hard for me to argue against it when they are allowed to be sent off to war. I have a 17 year old cousin in boot camp right now.

    Ive grown up in the church and still attend. I have many family and friends in that Christian circle. I can’t think of a single personal I personally know who’d be okay with a child marriage beyond what is legal, and most wouldn’t even give permission to their 17 year old either. I have a hard time believing this post is accurate by any stretch.

    I read many comments in that link. Seems to be full of misconceptions and false stereotypes. One was this image below. I had no idea what it was taking about. After trying to find out, all I could see was March 2022 a proposed bill to recognize common law marriage failed to provide an age requirement. It was shortly amended a few days later to include an age requirement of 18, but there were still many articles after that change accusing them republican leadership of trying to legalize child marriage of any age. This was shared well after the change. I could find no other mention of TN republicans trying to legalize child marriage other than the common law proposal.

    And,for the record, dressing your child up and posing for a political prop and spreading her image around on social media for complete strangers, especially one that intentionally spreads false information, is as much of a groomer as any other example I’ve seen here.



    This is why tweets aren't news.  Just buzz words.


    The trick is to look into the validity of claims before commenting on them - whether the source is twitter or anywhere else. & it's remarkably easy to do but still so few people do it... they read something and just hit the ground running with their reaction. 

    I've been guilty of it myself in the past, but nowadays, rather than openly asking others "Is this true?" and hoping for a response, I'm trying to look into it before forming an opinion, let alone commenting on it. 

    It's wild how much information we have at our fingertips, and at the same time how much misinformation is running rampant. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    The vast majority of those 300k Chile marriages are 17 year olds. Many states allow 17 year olds to marry with parental permission, and I’ve never heard that was a religious vs non-religious view.. While I’d never give permission to my 17 year old, it’s hard for me to argue against it when they are allowed to be sent off to war. I have a 17 year old cousin in boot camp right now.

    Ive grown up in the church and still attend. I have many family and friends in that Christian circle. I can’t think of a single personal I personally know who’d be okay with a child marriage beyond what is legal, and most wouldn’t even give permission to their 17 year old either. I have a hard time believing this post is accurate by any stretch.

    I read many comments in that link. Seems to be full of misconceptions and false stereotypes. One was this image below. I had no idea what it was taking about. After trying to find out, all I could see was March 2022 a proposed bill to recognize common law marriage failed to provide an age requirement. It was shortly amended a few days later to include an age requirement of 18, but there were still many articles after that change accusing them republican leadership of trying to legalize child marriage of any age. This was shared well after the change. I could find no other mention of TN republicans trying to legalize child marriage other than the common law proposal.

    And,for the record, dressing your child up and posing for a political prop and spreading her image around on social media for complete strangers, especially one that intentionally spreads false information, is as much of a groomer as any other example I’ve seen here.



    How do you join the army at 17?  I thought you had to be a legal adult, with a high school education. 

    To your punchline, I agree using your children as political props is wrong.  I see it on both sides.  I would not go so far as saying it's as bad as the criminal examples that we've shared here.  That's overstated. 
    Screenshot from: https://www.usa.gov/military-requirements#:~:text=Age%20limits&text=Army%3A%2017%20%2D%2035,Navy%3A%2017%20%2D%2039




    I’ve always believed you needed parental consent at 17, but it doesn’t mention that here. 

    Yes, I should have been more clear. I was referring to the non-criminal examples, like Christmas cards with a gun when I was comparing that picture. Not actually raping a kid.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    The vast majority of those 300k Chile marriages are 17 year olds. Many states allow 17 year olds to marry with parental permission, and I’ve never heard that was a religious vs non-religious view.. While I’d never give permission to my 17 year old, it’s hard for me to argue against it when they are allowed to be sent off to war. I have a 17 year old cousin in boot camp right now.

    Ive grown up in the church and still attend. I have many family and friends in that Christian circle. I can’t think of a single personal I personally know who’d be okay with a child marriage beyond what is legal, and most wouldn’t even give permission to their 17 year old either. I have a hard time believing this post is accurate by any stretch.

    I read many comments in that link. Seems to be full of misconceptions and false stereotypes. One was this image below. I had no idea what it was taking about. After trying to find out, all I could see was March 2022 a proposed bill to recognize common law marriage failed to provide an age requirement. It was shortly amended a few days later to include an age requirement of 18, but there were still many articles after that change accusing them republican leadership of trying to legalize child marriage of any age. This was shared well after the change. I could find no other mention of TN republicans trying to legalize child marriage other than the common law proposal.

    And,for the record, dressing your child up and posing for a political prop and spreading her image around on social media for complete strangers, especially one that intentionally spreads false information, is as much of a groomer as any other example I’ve seen here.



    This is why tweets aren't news.  Just buzz words.

    I am curious about the 10yo that was married.  I wonder if they were actually 40 but were born on a leap year, wouldn't that be a lick in the dick?
    I was assuming, so could be wrong, that the 10 year old wasn’t a legally recognized state marriage. But one from a cult living in a compound like David Karesh. No one, outside a crazy cult, supports that.
  • mickeyrat
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  • mace1229
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    mickeyrat said:
    Next time I can’t sleep I’ll look at a few of those green states. I’m curious if some of the exemptions themselves have an age requirement, so the marriage law itself doesn’t. Like maybe a minor can marry if they are emancipated from their parents, and they have to be at least 16 to be emancipated or something. I would just be very surprised if any state allowed a 12 year old to marry under any circumstance.
    Also interesting there seems to be about equal blue and red states without the age requirement, but it’s conservatives and republicans that are being accused of wanting it.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited June 2023
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Next time I can’t sleep I’ll look at a few of those green states. I’m curious if some of the exemptions themselves have an age requirement, so the marriage law itself doesn’t. Like maybe a minor can marry if they are emancipated from their parents, and they have to be at least 16 to be emancipated or something. I would just be very surprised if any state allowed a 12 year old to marry under any circumstance.
    Also interesting there seems to be about equal blue and red states without the age requirement, but it’s conservatives and republicans that are being accused of wanting it.
    I noticed this too and got hammered on a Twitter thread for bringing it up. Now, I suspect that republicans, state-by-state, would be far more against banning child marriage but it doesn't seem like anyone is really making a move, so I cannot prove it.

    Seems like this would be a terrific opportunity for the Dems to say "you're so worried about the children, let's change this rule." They'd either be able to do some actual good or at least get some points in the debate.

    Edit: But also, don't get too excited about the 33 red "banned" states. Most are not 100% banned. Only the blue ones fit that bill (I thought the number where it was totally banned was eight) so maybe some of the red ones do fit.

    Here's a link that is consistent with that graphic ("Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware are the only states where 18 is the legal age to get married.")  https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/child-marriage-is-currently-legal-in-46-states/


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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    and make that the only thing in the bill. no excuses. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • lastexitlondon
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    There is Kid who identified as a unicorn at my sister in law's school. 


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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    and make that the only thing in the bill. no excuses. 
    I agree. But has that ever happened, with any bill, ever?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    OnWis97 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Next time I can’t sleep I’ll look at a few of those green states. I’m curious if some of the exemptions themselves have an age requirement, so the marriage law itself doesn’t. Like maybe a minor can marry if they are emancipated from their parents, and they have to be at least 16 to be emancipated or something. I would just be very surprised if any state allowed a 12 year old to marry under any circumstance.
    Also interesting there seems to be about equal blue and red states without the age requirement, but it’s conservatives and republicans that are being accused of wanting it.
    I noticed this too and got hammered on a Twitter thread for bringing it up. Now, I suspect that republicans, state-by-state, would be far more against banning child marriage but it doesn't seem like anyone is really making a move, so I cannot prove it.

    Seems like this would be a terrific opportunity for the Dems to say "you're so worried about the children, let's change this rule." They'd either be able to do some actual good or at least get some points in the debate.

    Edit: But also, don't get too excited about the 33 red "banned" states. Most are not 100% banned. Only the blue ones fit that bill (I thought the number where it was totally banned was eight) so maybe some of the red ones do fit.

    Here's a link that is consistent with that graphic ("Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware are the only states where 18 is the legal age to get married.")  https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/child-marriage-is-currently-legal-in-46-states/


    At least in California, it was like I predicted. Even though there isn’t a minimum age specified, it’s not like any minor can just go marry someone. It requires parental consent AND court approval. I just don’t see a court approving a 12 year old.


    But if that’s what they are worried about, why was TN singled out more for proposing a law that didn’t specify age when states already have that? When I see tweets like the one I shared it just makes me realize for those people it’s more about politics, and not about the kids.
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