Groomers aka sexual predators

mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,547
edited July 2023 in A Moving Train
urban dictionary definition.....

a groomer is someone who builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,547
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,758
    Groomers...


  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,132
    mickeyrat said:
    urban dictionary definition.....

    a groomer is someone who builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.
    Common job titles include youth pastor.
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,012
    Its amazing how creepy and evil some humans are- and not just here in America.  It's a global thing. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    Teaching your kid to enjoy the same music you do or maybe dressing them in a Biggie t-shirt too then?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    Woody Allen is a groomer.
  • people who groom dogs used to be called groomers.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    Gun freaks and Evangelical Christians are the biggest, most dangerous groomers of them all. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,078
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 
    This is crazy talk from me, but maybe you should read the Washington state bill first. I also recommend what medical interventions are actually taking place with trans teenagers in reality and not what’s on social media. 

    Another thing, falsely associating grooming with transgendered people actually will have the outcome of sexual abuse being more likely to happen because you’re not teaching people what grooming by actual sex offenders looks like. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,445
    mrussel1 said:
    Gun freaks and Evangelical Christians are the biggest, most dangerous groomers of them all. 
    Yup
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,951
    edited May 2023
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 
    I’m sorry. I’m not trying to make things personal. But painting an entire political party with that brush is a sign of serious delusion and brainwashing and/or unhinged anger. 

    I’d urge you to challenge your sources and maybe seek out actual truth. 

    Remember: republicans are the ones who look the other way with guys like Roy Moore and rapist-in-chief DJT, Lauren Boebert (who stood behind her husband, convicted of exposing himself to minors). Need I go on? 

    Sickness doesn’t generally subscribe to a particular political leaning. But conservative Christians sure do LOVE their altar boys…and Republican politicians. There’s a reason those robes are so heavy. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 
    Here is a groomer for you. Is it true that all Republicans are groomers or just Texas ones? 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-u-s-news/texas-panel-says-lawmaker-should-be-expelled-for-misconduct/amp/
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,547
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,012
    I'm still having a hard time with the word "groomer".  Every time I see it come up I picture someone with a curry comb and a horse.  "Brainwashing", "indoctrinating", "proselytizing",  I understand.  Those words convey a more clear message to me.  Grooming, on the other hand, just sounds too neat and tidy.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,141
    edited May 2023
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 
    What disingenuous language (from you and from the article - unsurprised on both counts).

    Reading the actual bill yields actual information about what will actually happen (fucking go figure).

    There are compelling reasons for parents not to be notified about their child's presence in a shelter - if a parent or legal guardian will subject the minor to abuse or neglect; or when a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care services. As explained by the proposers of the law, this is to try to curb the significant suicide rate amongst transgender homeless people.

    Also, is your complaint that children SHOULD be able to get a tattoo, buy cigarettes, and alcohol? My god am I ever glad you're on a Pearl Jam forum, instead of someone who does something that matters on the topic.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,012
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 

    I have registered to vote as a Republican once (well, OK, that was so I could vote against Reagan in the primaries, so that doesn't count), as an Independent, as a Green Party member, and (by far the most often), as a Democrat.  So, JB, does that mean I'm only a sick fuck some of the time? 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,547
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,360
    edited May 2023
    Groomers sounds like the name of a TV show. Could make a good dark comedy.
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    I consider ill people that fornicate to be sick fucks.  Not sure about anyone else.  
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,360
    Doesn't fornicate just mean to have consensual sex? Nothing sick about that to me.
    Or have I completely misunderstood this word my whole life?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    mace1229 said:
    Doesn't fornicate just mean to have consensual sex? Nothing sick about that to me.
    Or have I completely misunderstood this word my whole life?
    No, you have it right.  
  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    It does!  Which is why I threw in "ill" to signify the sick part: ill fornicators = sick fucks. Maybe not the best pun but it's all I got.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,360
    ill or sick is a much bigger spectrum than pedofiles, so I was a little confused.
    When I said it would make a good dark comedy, I was thinking along the lines of Tarantino and Inglorious Bastards or Once Upon a Time style.
  • YieldInHidingYieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    Any Republican/"Conservative" using the term groomer is projecting. Here's another one who just resigned for....grooming. https://www.advocate.com/politics/bryan-slaton-resigns-grooming-staffer

    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    edited May 2023
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 
    I’m sorry. I’m not trying to make things personal. But painting an entire political party with that brush is a sign of serious delusion and brainwashing and/or unhinged anger. 

    I’d urge you to challenge your sources and maybe seek out actual truth. 

    Remember: republicans are the ones who look the other way with guys like Roy Moore and rapist-in-chief DJT, Lauren Boebert (who stood behind her husband, convicted of exposing himself to minors). Need I go on? 

    Sickness doesn’t generally subscribe to a particular political leaning. But conservative Christians sure do LOVE their altar boys…and Republican politicians. There’s a reason those robes are so heavy. 
    Painting an entire political party with a brush happens pretty much every day here on ATM but I don't see you calling it out when it's Democrats calling all Republicans evil. 

    edit: Also, to be fair to you, you're one of the only ones on here that has slightly defended me at least one time. 
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    edited May 2023
    brianlux said:
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 

    I have registered to vote as a Republican once (well, OK, that was so I could vote against Reagan in the primaries, so that doesn't count), as an Independent, as a Green Party member, and (by far the most often), as a Democrat.  So, JB, does that mean I'm only a sick fuck some of the time? 
    There are multiple messages in this thread alone calling or insinuating that all Republicans are groomers. I'm just playing the AMT game. 
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    benjs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Another common title also includes Democrats. 

    https://komonews.com/news/local/senate-bill-5599-washington-state-transgender-trans-at-risk-youth-gender-affirming-reproductive-care-without-parental-consent-governor-jay-inslee-family-foster-homeless-children-families-minors-law-legislation

    Democrats in Washington want the ability to hide children away their parents so they can swap their junk like a Mr. Potato Head doll. Children can't get a tattoo, buy cigarettes or alcohol but Democrats want them to be able to make life altering decisions without parental consent and not only that, hide the children from the parents. Democrats are a bunch of sick fucks. 
    What disingenuous language (from you and from the article - unsurprised on both counts).

    Reading the actual bill yields actual information about what will actually happen (fucking go figure).

    There are compelling reasons for parents not to be notified about their child's presence in a shelter - if a parent or legal guardian will subject the minor to abuse or neglect; or when a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care services. As explained by the proposers of the law, this is to try to curb the significant suicide rate amongst transgender homeless people.

    Also, is your complaint that children SHOULD be able to get a tattoo, buy cigarettes, and alcohol? My god am I ever glad you're on a Pearl Jam forum, instead of someone who does something that matters on the topic.
    I don't understand how you ever thought that my complaint was that kids should be able to get a tattoo, buy cigarettes, etc.... The answer is no. I don't think they should be able to do any of those things just like I don't believe kids should be able to have gender reassigning treatment. I have no issue if adults want to make this decision for themselves. 

    "There is no such thing as someone else's child. No such thing as someone else's child. Our nation's children are all our children." - Joe Biden

    The government has no right hiding children away from parents without undeniable proof that they are being abused and this bill doesn't account for that.

    I have a friend that as a child, went to the neighbors house and complained to them that his Mom wasn't feeding him. In reality, his mom wouldn't go to 7-11 and buy him top ramen. The neighbors called CPS while feeding him oatmeal which of course he hated. What a big ordeal because the kid lied and created an issue that wasn't true. Kids aren't always honest and this law is going to hurt more families than it will help. Of course there are legitimate situations where this really does happen and I feel bad for it but it isn't fair to punish all parents in Washington state. The bill was signed today.

    “Among its many flaws, the bill assumes families that don’t ‘affirm’ a child’s short-term desires are being abusive. Wrong! Sometimes love requires parents to not affirm their child’s whims. Loving parents guide their children as they grow. Sometimes that means saying ‘no,’ ” Rep. Jim Walsh (R-19)

    This same reasoning could be applied to kids that want to do drugs(which are aren't illegal in Washington state). If a kid wants to do drugs and the parents don't approve, should the government be able to take the kids away? No. 

    Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder and Democrats are pushing it on our children and trying to normalize it. "groomer is someone who builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them."

    How could a 4 year old possibly understand gender dysphoria? Yet Democrats are pushing for kids this young to make life altering decisions. This is child abuse and fits the definition of a "groomer". 
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