I don’t know that it’ll do anything at all. But I’m going to email ten club and ask then why I got shut out on chicago shows as priorities 1 and 2 when people got them as priority 5-9.
Worth a shot, but the reply I got from 10C was, "You need to contact Ticketstoday/TM."
Interested to see how the seat changes affect all of 10C members selling tickets on Stubhub…I see a lot of tickets for sale out there (above face value). Damn scalpers…
They don't have the tickets. These are speculative listings and this is a very common practice on ticket broker sites. They list seats in a section for a very high dollar amount hoping someone buys them which amounts to a hopeful preorder on the sellers part. They take the huge profit and shop for tickets that meet that demand - if they can't find them and profit from the transaction, then they simply cancel the order.
The brokers are likely selling PJ Premium options, which is less than 10% of seats and makes sense. PJ Premium:
PJ Premium seats are located in a variety of preferred locations and account for approximately 10% of ticket inventory per show. They are priced at market rate to offset increased touring costs while also keeping prices low for the rest of the ticket inventory. PJ Premium tickets will be available through Verified Fan along with regularly priced tickets.
I got this reply from Ticketstoday just now when I asked about my order status still showing as confirmed, and haven't been reassigned seats:
Thank you for reaching out to us. We understand that you're wondering about your ticket orders.
As
per the updated e-mail you attached. "Unfortunately incorrect seat
assignments were issued to Ten Club members for shows in St. Paul,
Chicago and Indianapolis. We confirm you have reserved tickets to this
show but to ensure all Ten Club members get the proper reserved seat
location based on their seniority, seats are being reissued."
I got this reply from Ticketstoday just now when I asked about my order status still showing as confirmed, and haven't been reassigned seats:
Thank you for reaching out to us. We understand that you're wondering about your ticket orders.
As
per the updated e-mail you attached. "Unfortunately incorrect seat
assignments were issued to Ten Club members for shows in St. Paul,
Chicago and Indianapolis. We confirm you have reserved tickets to this
show but to ensure all Ten Club members get the proper reserved seat
location based on their seniority, seats are being reissued."
I bet they regret combing PIT with Seated this time around. Doesn't seem like much to gain by doing that. All it caused was confusion. I did read what Ten Club posted, and I did follow their recommendation for best available to select all which meant selecting PIT/Reserved as well as Reserved as 2nd choice. But I can see why many of you didn't click Reserved after already clicking PIT/Reserved as first choice since it should cover both based on what they said. But they should have just left it alone as just PIT. It was very simple to click PIT and also click Reserved without making it PIT/Reserved and Reserved. It would have avoided alot of people's confusion or worry about cancelling out their selections by choosing Reserved as 2nd since they had already seen Reserved was included with PIT now.
Yep - I said a few posts ago that this was the first big red flag. They should have never combined pit with reserved. They should have remained separate choices with separate priorities.
The only people we should try to get even with...
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I bet they regret combing PIT with Seated this time around. Doesn't seem like much to gain by doing that. All it caused was confusion. I did read what Ten Club posted, and I did follow their recommendation for best available to select all which meant selecting PIT/Reserved as well as Reserved as 2nd choice. But I can see why many of you didn't click Reserved after already clicking PIT/Reserved as first choice since it should cover both based on what they said. But they should have just left it alone as just PIT. It was very simple to click PIT and also click Reserved without making it PIT/Reserved and Reserved. It would have avoided alot of people's confusion or worry about cancelling out their selections by choosing Reserved as 2nd since they had already seen Reserved was included with PIT now.
Yep - I said a few posts ago that this was the first big red flag. They should have never combined pit with reserved. They should have remained separate choices with separate priorities.
There shouldn't be a priority on seating selection. In 2020 it was simple. You could select 1 of 3 options. Your priority is the show rankings.
GA Only Reserved Only Best Available (GA or Reserved)
Changing the language and the ability to check all boxes made it very weird
So if I'm reading this correctly, no one beyond priority 1 should have gotten seats until all 1s were fulfilled, or the allotment was exhausted.
Yeah, seems like someone made a boo-boo.
But I think your name has to be pulled first so yes someone with a priority 2 could win over a 1 because 1’s name never got pulled. Does this make sense?
It does not. Name can't be pulled if isn't in the hat. (where did that text above on show priority come from?)
From 2020 tour info page but this process for how priority works has always been like this so should still hold true.
Interested to see how the seat changes affect all of 10C members selling tickets on Stubhub…I see a lot of tickets for sale out there (above face value). Damn scalpers…
Maybe a dumb question. But how on earth are they possibly selling these tickets yet?! When we don't even know what tickets we'll be receiving?
have to consider that a lot of people get tickets before they go on sale. promoter, ticketmaster, the venue, band friend/family all get their allottment. Then add in speculative sellers who don't actually have tixs.
no email updates but my submission page says unfulfilled on both chicago entries.... its interesting that people who have newer memberships were able to hit. oh well at least another member is able to go and enjoy the show.
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I bet they regret combing PIT with Seated this time around. Doesn't seem like much to gain by doing that. All it caused was confusion. I did read what Ten Club posted, and I did follow their recommendation for best available to select all which meant selecting PIT/Reserved as well as Reserved as 2nd choice. But I can see why many of you didn't click Reserved after already clicking PIT/Reserved as first choice since it should cover both based on what they said. But they should have just left it alone as just PIT. It was very simple to click PIT and also click Reserved without making it PIT/Reserved and Reserved. It would have avoided alot of people's confusion or worry about cancelling out their selections by choosing Reserved as 2nd since they had already seen Reserved was included with PIT now.
Yep - I said a few posts ago that this was the first big red flag. They should have never combined pit with reserved. They should have remained separate choices with separate priorities.
There shouldn't be a priority on seating selection. In 2020 it was simple. You could select 1 of 3 options. Your priority is the show rankings.
GA Only Reserved Only Best Available (GA or Reserved)
Changing the language and the ability to check all boxes made it very weird
I disagree. They should have kept it where you could select show PLUS seat option as one full priority. If you want to try for the same show with a different seat option, it should be a different PRIORITY.
In that scenario, you choices could look like this: Priority 1 - City X GA Priority 2 - City X Reserved
It was that way in the past
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
They better get rolling on the rest of these requests
I think everything is going to have to be pushed back until they figure this out but I can't say with any accuracy
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Is it worth asking if anyone has gotten new seat assignments?
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They better get rolling on the rest of these requests
I think everything is going to have to be pushed back until they figure this out but I can't say with any accuracy
It does seem like a large task. And you know once people start comparing the reassigned seats there are still going to be high# members besting low#members.
I hope I'm wrong
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If they don't resolve this soon, they will be up against the clock on Pearl Jam Verified Fan sales. Many will be waiting to find out status of these Ten Club sales, and not know whether they should attempt to buy tickets through Verified Fan.
Is it worth asking if anyone has gotten new seat assignments?
Oh we'll know when that happens lol
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So if I'm reading this correctly, no one beyond priority 1 should have gotten seats until all 1s were fulfilled, or the allotment was exhausted.
Yeah, seems like someone made a boo-boo.
But I think your name has to be pulled first so yes someone with a priority 2 could win over a 1 because 1’s name never got pulled. Does this make sense?
It does not. Name can't be pulled if isn't in the hat. (where did that text above on show priority come from?)
From 2020 tour info page but this process for how priority works has always been like this so should still hold true.
I know people don't read stuff, but at the end of the day, it was there and folks can't blame anyone else if they didn't read the announcement details. That said, it's obviously and intentionally vague, meaningless weasel words. People should have expected that it wouldn't work the same as it used to, but nobody had/has any idea how it is in fact meant to work now.
Do you work for ticketmaster or something? You are vehemently defending how this has played out. Are you a scalper/bot who got what you wanted?
Them changing the entire lottery program without telling anyone is unfathomable bait and switch nonsense. They were up front about changes to 10c. Why wouldn't they be up front about lottery changes? You have reasonable right to the belief that it would operate as it has unless expressly and explicitly stated in writing to advise you otherwise.
Should we go back to talking about sub sandwiches? I'm hungry...
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PJ Premium:
PJ Premium seats are located in a variety of preferred locations and account for approximately 10% of ticket inventory per show. They are priced at market rate to offset increased touring costs while also keeping prices low for the rest of the ticket inventory. PJ Premium tickets will be available through Verified Fan along with regularly priced tickets.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
GA Only
Reserved Only
Best Available (GA or Reserved)
Changing the language and the ability to check all boxes made it very weird
https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205143590-Pre-sale-Drawing
In that scenario, you choices could look like this:
Priority 1 - City X GA
Priority 2 - City X Reserved
It was that way in the past
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
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And here is the spreadsheet with results which you can monitor:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C50w_rrKfSeaik-JGAlYZwazYEKecwZ8o1M07GCcLnc/edit?usp=sharing
Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
Hamilton - '20, '22
Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
Pittsburgh 5.16.2025 Pittsburgh 5.18.2025
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I hope I'm wrong
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Them changing the entire lottery program without telling anyone is unfathomable bait and switch nonsense. They were up front about changes to 10c. Why wouldn't they be up front about lottery changes? You have reasonable right to the belief that it would operate as it has unless expressly and explicitly stated in writing to advise you otherwise.
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