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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,317
    It's weird...this guy is showing his true colors though
    He keeps doubling down.
  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,849
    I was sitting with a couple fellas the other day...  both old, both white. 

    And they were 'politely' lamenting about how they have been criticized for saying racist things even though they themselves do not believe for a moment that they are racist. 

    But they went on to politely complain about how these 'movements' were getting too out of hand and seemingly forced. 

    The forced thing I thought was hilarious because it had to do with popular shows going 'woke' and showing homosexuality etc. I was like "forced? change the channel." lol 

    So they went on to talk about hiring processes as an example. Companies going out of their way to be inclusive and diverse and hiring minorities.  They said "best person should get the job, no matter what." 

    To me... this stuff falls under the category of white people complaining that they no longer control everything in North America. Which .......  they still do in many ways. 

    So I looked at them... and I said: "I hear ya...   but .... if things seem unfair to white people nowadays... are you suggesting that you would have preferred being born black?"  They were taken aback and said "Well what do you mean?"  And I repeated.. and I also suggested that in my opinion... no matter what... 2023-2050... if 'wokeness' continues we still as a society will not be on an equal playing field. They again didn't understand what I was talking about. So I referred again to give them the option should they desire to be black instead of white if things were so unfair and awful today because of 'wokeness.'  And so I again tried to explain that if we as white people were to now begin walking the same path as black people for example... considering how unfair it is now... and eventually found ourselves in a situation where the following things were afflicting white people:  Slavery, no access to real estate, no access to education, no access to jobs, no access to democracy.  If we all had to endure that... would we still be sitting here complaining about these trivial matters like a black Disney princess etc.?  

    To me...  these little conversations that take place all resemble a 'polite' white supremacy.  If you KNOW how it's been for minorities all these years in a land where life, liberty, and justice for ALL is supposed to ring true, then why on earth would anyone complain about the playing field finally being levelled?  This is why I support CRT and also why I think all these woke companies should honestly start trying a bit harder.  Instead of saying "We're proud to support Black History Month" I would suggest that it would go further if they did more to educate about black history.  Case in point... the two fellas I spoke with had NO CLUE that certain residential properties during the housing boom of the 50s could not by law be sold to black people. I looked at the older white male and said.. "That's you. Now imagine your entire life and your family starting from when you were 15 as a black person."  I said "I understand that being born a white Canadian male... I was born with a substantial head start in life. And so were you two."   <-  That is undeniable and irrefutable. Those who complain about how bad white people have it nowadays really need to STFU. 

    I dunno... just my $0.02. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Parksy said:
    I was sitting with a couple fellas the other day...  both old, both white. 

    And they were 'politely' lamenting about how they have been criticized for saying racist things even though they themselves do not believe for a moment that they are racist. 

    But they went on to politely complain about how these 'movements' were getting too out of hand and seemingly forced. 

    The forced thing I thought was hilarious because it had to do with popular shows going 'woke' and showing homosexuality etc. I was like "forced? change the channel." lol 

    So they went on to talk about hiring processes as an example. Companies going out of their way to be inclusive and diverse and hiring minorities.  They said "best person should get the job, no matter what." 

    To me... this stuff falls under the category of white people complaining that they no longer control everything in North America. Which .......  they still do in many ways. 

    So I looked at them... and I said: "I hear ya...   but .... if things seem unfair to white people nowadays... are you suggesting that you would have preferred being born black?"  They were taken aback and said "Well what do you mean?"  And I repeated.. and I also suggested that in my opinion... no matter what... 2023-2050... if 'wokeness' continues we still as a society will not be on an equal playing field. They again didn't understand what I was talking about. So I referred again to give them the option should they desire to be black instead of white if things were so unfair and awful today because of 'wokeness.'  And so I again tried to explain that if we as white people were to now begin walking the same path as black people for example... considering how unfair it is now... and eventually found ourselves in a situation where the following things were afflicting white people:  Slavery, no access to real estate, no access to education, no access to jobs, no access to democracy.  If we all had to endure that... would we still be sitting here complaining about these trivial matters like a black Disney princess etc.?  

    To me...  these little conversations that take place all resemble a 'polite' white supremacy.  If you KNOW how it's been for minorities all these years in a land where life, liberty, and justice for ALL is supposed to ring true, then why on earth would anyone complain about the playing field finally being levelled?  This is why I support CRT and also why I think all these woke companies should honestly start trying a bit harder.  Instead of saying "We're proud to support Black History Month" I would suggest that it would go further if they did more to educate about black history.  Case in point... the two fellas I spoke with had NO CLUE that certain residential properties during the housing boom of the 50s could not by law be sold to black people. I looked at the older white male and said.. "That's you. Now imagine your entire life and your family starting from when you were 15 as a black person."  I said "I understand that being born a white Canadian male... I was born with a substantial head start in life. And so were you two."   <-  That is undeniable and irrefutable. Those who complain about how bad white people have it nowadays really need to STFU. 

    I dunno... just my $0.02. 
    Good points.

    I can understand that some of these changes are very odd to the boomers...but yeah the ones that complain about it are in the dark. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Parksy said:
    I was sitting with a couple fellas the other day...  both old, both white. 

    And they were 'politely' lamenting about how they have been criticized for saying racist things even though they themselves do not believe for a moment that they are racist. 

    But they went on to politely complain about how these 'movements' were getting too out of hand and seemingly forced. 

    The forced thing I thought was hilarious because it had to do with popular shows going 'woke' and showing homosexuality etc. I was like "forced? change the channel." lol 

    So they went on to talk about hiring processes as an example. Companies going out of their way to be inclusive and diverse and hiring minorities.  They said "best person should get the job, no matter what." 

    To me... this stuff falls under the category of white people complaining that they no longer control everything in North America. Which .......  they still do in many ways. 

    So I looked at them... and I said: "I hear ya...   but .... if things seem unfair to white people nowadays... are you suggesting that you would have preferred being born black?"  They were taken aback and said "Well what do you mean?"  And I repeated.. and I also suggested that in my opinion... no matter what... 2023-2050... if 'wokeness' continues we still as a society will not be on an equal playing field. They again didn't understand what I was talking about. So I referred again to give them the option should they desire to be black instead of white if things were so unfair and awful today because of 'wokeness.'  And so I again tried to explain that if we as white people were to now begin walking the same path as black people for example... considering how unfair it is now... and eventually found ourselves in a situation where the following things were afflicting white people:  Slavery, no access to real estate, no access to education, no access to jobs, no access to democracy.  If we all had to endure that... would we still be sitting here complaining about these trivial matters like a black Disney princess etc.?  

    To me...  these little conversations that take place all resemble a 'polite' white supremacy.  If you KNOW how it's been for minorities all these years in a land where life, liberty, and justice for ALL is supposed to ring true, then why on earth would anyone complain about the playing field finally being levelled?  This is why I support CRT and also why I think all these woke companies should honestly start trying a bit harder.  Instead of saying "We're proud to support Black History Month" I would suggest that it would go further if they did more to educate about black history.  Case in point... the two fellas I spoke with had NO CLUE that certain residential properties during the housing boom of the 50s could not by law be sold to black people. I looked at the older white male and said.. "That's you. Now imagine your entire life and your family starting from when you were 15 as a black person."  I said "I understand that being born a white Canadian male... I was born with a substantial head start in life. And so were you two."   <-  That is undeniable and irrefutable. Those who complain about how bad white people have it nowadays really need to STFU. 

    I dunno... just my $0.02. 
    my dad complained the other day about commercials no longer representing him after seeing an ad with a chinese man and his black wife. "where are the white people?" he shouted. his best friend is from the dominican. yet he still thinks "white couples" are required for accurate population representation in media. 

    I've tried to explain to him as politely as I can that he's been represented since the inception of advertising; give the ones who haven't been a turn to be "seen". it literally hurts zero people. 

    except old white dudes' feeling of relevancy, apparently. 

    I then turned to my sister (I'm 48, she's 49), and said "I wonder what our breaking point will be when we get to dad's age?". She said she was thinking the exact same thing. cuz you know it's gotta happen. it happens to every generation, no matter how progressive in your early or mid life. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    Parksy said:
    I was sitting with a couple fellas the other day...  both old, both white. 

    And they were 'politely' lamenting about how they have been criticized for saying racist things even though they themselves do not believe for a moment that they are racist. 

    But they went on to politely complain about how these 'movements' were getting too out of hand and seemingly forced. 

    The forced thing I thought was hilarious because it had to do with popular shows going 'woke' and showing homosexuality etc. I was like "forced? change the channel." lol 

    So they went on to talk about hiring processes as an example. Companies going out of their way to be inclusive and diverse and hiring minorities.  They said "best person should get the job, no matter what." 

    To me... this stuff falls under the category of white people complaining that they no longer control everything in North America. Which .......  they still do in many ways. 

    So I looked at them... and I said: "I hear ya...   but .... if things seem unfair to white people nowadays... are you suggesting that you would have preferred being born black?"  They were taken aback and said "Well what do you mean?"  And I repeated.. and I also suggested that in my opinion... no matter what... 2023-2050... if 'wokeness' continues we still as a society will not be on an equal playing field. They again didn't understand what I was talking about. So I referred again to give them the option should they desire to be black instead of white if things were so unfair and awful today because of 'wokeness.'  And so I again tried to explain that if we as white people were to now begin walking the same path as black people for example... considering how unfair it is now... and eventually found ourselves in a situation where the following things were afflicting white people:  Slavery, no access to real estate, no access to education, no access to jobs, no access to democracy.  If we all had to endure that... would we still be sitting here complaining about these trivial matters like a black Disney princess etc.?  

    To me...  these little conversations that take place all resemble a 'polite' white supremacy.  If you KNOW how it's been for minorities all these years in a land where life, liberty, and justice for ALL is supposed to ring true, then why on earth would anyone complain about the playing field finally being levelled?  This is why I support CRT and also why I think all these woke companies should honestly start trying a bit harder.  Instead of saying "We're proud to support Black History Month" I would suggest that it would go further if they did more to educate about black history.  Case in point... the two fellas I spoke with had NO CLUE that certain residential properties during the housing boom of the 50s could not by law be sold to black people. I looked at the older white male and said.. "That's you. Now imagine your entire life and your family starting from when you were 15 as a black person."  I said "I understand that being born a white Canadian male... I was born with a substantial head start in life. And so were you two."   <-  That is undeniable and irrefutable. Those who complain about how bad white people have it nowadays really need to STFU. 

    I dunno... just my $0.02. 

    What about- and I'm just asking because this seems worth considering, and not meaning any of this to be criticizing you, Parksy- Woopie Goldberg who is both old and black who was cancelled and accused of making a racial slur for saying, "The people who still believe that he got, you know, gypped somehow..." 
    I read this statement to my wife and asked her what she thought was "politically incorrect" about it.  She didn't have a clue- and believe me, I cannot imagine anyone considering her to be at all a racist.  Neither one of us had ever had a clue that "gypped" is a racist word.  Now granted, it may well be a word that needs to be better understood and relegated to less common usage, but is this a reason for shaming someone who used it with zero intent toward racism?
    Somethings are just taken to extremes that could be better handled in a more caring, thoughtful manner, instead of so many people seizing every opportunity to be easily offended and lashing out.  Is it any wonder hate is the order of the day?



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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    Parksy said:
    I was sitting with a couple fellas the other day...  both old, both white. 

    And they were 'politely' lamenting about how they have been criticized for saying racist things even though they themselves do not believe for a moment that they are racist. 

    But they went on to politely complain about how these 'movements' were getting too out of hand and seemingly forced. 

    The forced thing I thought was hilarious because it had to do with popular shows going 'woke' and showing homosexuality etc. I was like "forced? change the channel." lol 

    So they went on to talk about hiring processes as an example. Companies going out of their way to be inclusive and diverse and hiring minorities.  They said "best person should get the job, no matter what." 

    To me... this stuff falls under the category of white people complaining that they no longer control everything in North America. Which .......  they still do in many ways. 

    So I looked at them... and I said: "I hear ya...   but .... if things seem unfair to white people nowadays... are you suggesting that you would have preferred being born black?"  They were taken aback and said "Well what do you mean?"  And I repeated.. and I also suggested that in my opinion... no matter what... 2023-2050... if 'wokeness' continues we still as a society will not be on an equal playing field. They again didn't understand what I was talking about. So I referred again to give them the option should they desire to be black instead of white if things were so unfair and awful today because of 'wokeness.'  And so I again tried to explain that if we as white people were to now begin walking the same path as black people for example... considering how unfair it is now... and eventually found ourselves in a situation where the following things were afflicting white people:  Slavery, no access to real estate, no access to education, no access to jobs, no access to democracy.  If we all had to endure that... would we still be sitting here complaining about these trivial matters like a black Disney princess etc.?  

    To me...  these little conversations that take place all resemble a 'polite' white supremacy.  If you KNOW how it's been for minorities all these years in a land where life, liberty, and justice for ALL is supposed to ring true, then why on earth would anyone complain about the playing field finally being levelled?  This is why I support CRT and also why I think all these woke companies should honestly start trying a bit harder.  Instead of saying "We're proud to support Black History Month" I would suggest that it would go further if they did more to educate about black history.  Case in point... the two fellas I spoke with had NO CLUE that certain residential properties during the housing boom of the 50s could not by law be sold to black people. I looked at the older white male and said.. "That's you. Now imagine your entire life and your family starting from when you were 15 as a black person."  I said "I understand that being born a white Canadian male... I was born with a substantial head start in life. And so were you two."   <-  That is undeniable and irrefutable. Those who complain about how bad white people have it nowadays really need to STFU. 

    I dunno... just my $0.02. 
    my dad complained the other day about commercials no longer representing him after seeing an ad with a chinese man and his black wife. "where are the white people?" he shouted. his best friend is from the dominican. yet he still thinks "white couples" are required for accurate population representation in media. 

    I've tried to explain to him as politely as I can that he's been represented since the inception of advertising; give the ones who haven't been a turn to be "seen". it literally hurts zero people. 

    except old white dudes' feeling of relevancy, apparently. 

    I then turned to my sister (I'm 48, she's 49), and said "I wonder what our breaking point will be when we get to dad's age?". She said she was thinking the exact same thing. cuz you know it's gotta happen. it happens to every generation, no matter how progressive in your early or mid life. 

    I'm not sure it's really a requirement that we all have a breaking point with regard to things changing. I had my dad as a good role model for this. He was always willing to listen to people and view change as inevitable, and that some changes were good, some bad, and some neutral. There were also those changes that on the surface are negative, but really are an outcome of something that can be viewed as a positive.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Well, not a requirement, but I think it will happen to a lot of us. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,317
    brianlux said:
    Parksy said:
    I was sitting with a couple fellas the other day...  both old, both white. 

    And they were 'politely' lamenting about how they have been criticized for saying racist things even though they themselves do not believe for a moment that they are racist. 

    But they went on to politely complain about how these 'movements' were getting too out of hand and seemingly forced. 

    The forced thing I thought was hilarious because it had to do with popular shows going 'woke' and showing homosexuality etc. I was like "forced? change the channel." lol 

    So they went on to talk about hiring processes as an example. Companies going out of their way to be inclusive and diverse and hiring minorities.  They said "best person should get the job, no matter what." 

    To me... this stuff falls under the category of white people complaining that they no longer control everything in North America. Which .......  they still do in many ways. 

    So I looked at them... and I said: "I hear ya...   but .... if things seem unfair to white people nowadays... are you suggesting that you would have preferred being born black?"  They were taken aback and said "Well what do you mean?"  And I repeated.. and I also suggested that in my opinion... no matter what... 2023-2050... if 'wokeness' continues we still as a society will not be on an equal playing field. They again didn't understand what I was talking about. So I referred again to give them the option should they desire to be black instead of white if things were so unfair and awful today because of 'wokeness.'  And so I again tried to explain that if we as white people were to now begin walking the same path as black people for example... considering how unfair it is now... and eventually found ourselves in a situation where the following things were afflicting white people:  Slavery, no access to real estate, no access to education, no access to jobs, no access to democracy.  If we all had to endure that... would we still be sitting here complaining about these trivial matters like a black Disney princess etc.?  

    To me...  these little conversations that take place all resemble a 'polite' white supremacy.  If you KNOW how it's been for minorities all these years in a land where life, liberty, and justice for ALL is supposed to ring true, then why on earth would anyone complain about the playing field finally being levelled?  This is why I support CRT and also why I think all these woke companies should honestly start trying a bit harder.  Instead of saying "We're proud to support Black History Month" I would suggest that it would go further if they did more to educate about black history.  Case in point... the two fellas I spoke with had NO CLUE that certain residential properties during the housing boom of the 50s could not by law be sold to black people. I looked at the older white male and said.. "That's you. Now imagine your entire life and your family starting from when you were 15 as a black person."  I said "I understand that being born a white Canadian male... I was born with a substantial head start in life. And so were you two."   <-  That is undeniable and irrefutable. Those who complain about how bad white people have it nowadays really need to STFU. 

    I dunno... just my $0.02. 

    What about- and I'm just asking because this seems worth considering, and not meaning any of this to be criticizing you, Parksy- Woopie Goldberg who is both old and black who was cancelled and accused of making a racial slur for saying, "The people who still believe that he got, you know, gypped somehow..." 
    I read this statement to my wife and asked her what she thought was "politically incorrect" about it.  She didn't have a clue- and believe me, I cannot imagine anyone considering her to be at all a racist.  Neither one of us had ever had a clue that "gypped" is a racist word.  Now granted, it may well be a word that needs to be better understood and relegated to less common usage, but is this a reason for shaming someone who used it with zero intent toward racism?
    Somethings are just taken to extremes that could be better handled in a more caring, thoughtful manner, instead of so many people seizing every opportunity to be easily offended and lashing out.  Is it any wonder hate is the order of the day?



    There are a lot of words that are deemed offensive now that you got away with saying years ago, gypped is one of them.  Mulatto, gay, fag, retarted are off the table now too which they should be.

    Listen to some of the older comedians and you cringe now.  Some of that stuff that was commonplace back then is not acceptable language today.

    It is interesting and eye opening to learn about what is an offensive word.

    Lizzo and Beyonce are two artists I know of whom changed their lyrics because people took offense to it.  Lizzo used the word Spaz, which I also didn't know was offensive.


  • cincybearcat
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    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.html

    This seems crazy to me...I can't even understand it at all.  I mean, are we seriously just continuing to look for things to get offended about?
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    Does anyone have any good insight into what's going on in Florida with the "Don't say gay" laws, or cancelling certain college lectures, or pulling books from public schools? 

    I feel like instances of a state government cancelling speech or banning literature are way more concerning than random op-eds. 

  • mickeyrat
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    Does anyone have any good insight into what's going on in Florida with the "Don't say gay" laws, or cancelling certain college lectures, or pulling books from public schools? 

    I feel like instances of a state government cancelling speech or banning literature are way more concerning than random op-eds. 


    yes, they are now including all grade levels......

    posted a link in the gop thread.
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    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.html

    This seems crazy to me...I can't even understand it at all.  I mean, are we seriously just continuing to look for things to get offended about?
    am interested to know what your average black american thinks.....
    not just one writer

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    Does anyone have any good insight into what's going on in Florida with the "Don't say gay" laws, or cancelling certain college lectures, or pulling books from public schools? 

    I feel like instances of a state government cancelling speech or banning literature are way more concerning than random op-eds. 

    It’s extending to the judiciary and the AG’s office. Don’t like a ruling? Cancel the judge. Think a prosecutor is going after the wrong person or a political connection? Cancel the DA or the prosecutor. Full on authoritarianism. Give it a year or two, it’s going to be grand (just look to Israel to see it playing out).
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    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.html

    This seems crazy to me...I can't even understand it at all.  I mean, are we seriously just continuing to look for things to get offended about?
    am interested to know what your average black american thinks.....
    not just one writer

    Yup. Would be nice 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,317
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.html

    This seems crazy to me...I can't even understand it at all.  I mean, are we seriously just continuing to look for things to get offended about?
    I am truly flabbergasted at this article.

    Wow.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,749
    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.html

    This seems crazy to me...I can't even understand it at all.  I mean, are we seriously just continuing to look for things to get offended about?
    am interested to know what your average black american thinks.....
    not just one writer

    Same.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    brianlux said:
    Parksy said:
    I was sitting with a couple fellas the other day...  both old, both white. 

    And they were 'politely' lamenting about how they have been criticized for saying racist things even though they themselves do not believe for a moment that they are racist. 

    But they went on to politely complain about how these 'movements' were getting too out of hand and seemingly forced. 

    The forced thing I thought was hilarious because it had to do with popular shows going 'woke' and showing homosexuality etc. I was like "forced? change the channel." lol 

    So they went on to talk about hiring processes as an example. Companies going out of their way to be inclusive and diverse and hiring minorities.  They said "best person should get the job, no matter what." 

    To me... this stuff falls under the category of white people complaining that they no longer control everything in North America. Which .......  they still do in many ways. 

    So I looked at them... and I said: "I hear ya...   but .... if things seem unfair to white people nowadays... are you suggesting that you would have preferred being born black?"  They were taken aback and said "Well what do you mean?"  And I repeated.. and I also suggested that in my opinion... no matter what... 2023-2050... if 'wokeness' continues we still as a society will not be on an equal playing field. They again didn't understand what I was talking about. So I referred again to give them the option should they desire to be black instead of white if things were so unfair and awful today because of 'wokeness.'  And so I again tried to explain that if we as white people were to now begin walking the same path as black people for example... considering how unfair it is now... and eventually found ourselves in a situation where the following things were afflicting white people:  Slavery, no access to real estate, no access to education, no access to jobs, no access to democracy.  If we all had to endure that... would we still be sitting here complaining about these trivial matters like a black Disney princess etc.?  

    To me...  these little conversations that take place all resemble a 'polite' white supremacy.  If you KNOW how it's been for minorities all these years in a land where life, liberty, and justice for ALL is supposed to ring true, then why on earth would anyone complain about the playing field finally being levelled?  This is why I support CRT and also why I think all these woke companies should honestly start trying a bit harder.  Instead of saying "We're proud to support Black History Month" I would suggest that it would go further if they did more to educate about black history.  Case in point... the two fellas I spoke with had NO CLUE that certain residential properties during the housing boom of the 50s could not by law be sold to black people. I looked at the older white male and said.. "That's you. Now imagine your entire life and your family starting from when you were 15 as a black person."  I said "I understand that being born a white Canadian male... I was born with a substantial head start in life. And so were you two."   <-  That is undeniable and irrefutable. Those who complain about how bad white people have it nowadays really need to STFU. 

    I dunno... just my $0.02. 

    What about- and I'm just asking because this seems worth considering, and not meaning any of this to be criticizing you, Parksy- Woopie Goldberg who is both old and black who was cancelled and accused of making a racial slur for saying, "The people who still believe that he got, you know, gypped somehow..." 
    I read this statement to my wife and asked her what she thought was "politically incorrect" about it.  She didn't have a clue- and believe me, I cannot imagine anyone considering her to be at all a racist.  Neither one of us had ever had a clue that "gypped" is a racist word.  Now granted, it may well be a word that needs to be better understood and relegated to less common usage, but is this a reason for shaming someone who used it with zero intent toward racism?
    Somethings are just taken to extremes that could be better handled in a more caring, thoughtful manner, instead of so many people seizing every opportunity to be easily offended and lashing out.  Is it any wonder hate is the order of the day?



    There are a lot of words that are deemed offensive now that you got away with saying years ago, gypped is one of them.  Mulatto, gay, fag, retarted are off the table now too which they should be.

    Listen to some of the older comedians and you cringe now.  Some of that stuff that was commonplace back then is not acceptable language today.

    It is interesting and eye opening to learn about what is an offensive word.

    Lizzo and Beyonce are two artists I know of whom changed their lyrics because people took offense to it.  Lizzo used the word Spaz, which I also didn't know was offensive.



    I didn't know mulatto was off the table.  I always thought it was a term that lent respect to black and white couple who chose to have children.  But I'm open to being educated!

    Fag was always off the table for me once I learned it meant something other than "cigarette".  I had a friend in 9th grade who I smoked cigarettes with once in awhile and he sometimes would ask, "Hey Brian, any chance you've got an extra fag?"

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.html

    This seems crazy to me...I can't even understand it at all.  I mean, are we seriously just continuing to look for things to get offended about?

    Yeah, at some point it becomes incredibly nit picking and I think maybe even counter productive.  People who go out of their way to find others they can shame in some petty way are not much better that bigots. Though a relatively mild form of it, that's just another way of expressing hate.  The world seems full of all kinds of hate today.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,283
    mickeyrat said:

    Does anyone have any good insight into what's going on in Florida with the "Don't say gay" laws, or cancelling certain college lectures, or pulling books from public schools? 

    I feel like instances of a state government cancelling speech or banning literature are way more concerning than random op-eds. 


    yes, they are now including all grade levels......

    posted a link in the gop thread.

    heres a new one.....

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    edited March 2023
    I think one of the big differences with what that article in calling out digital blackface is it has nothing to do with the race. Someone made a funny catch phrase and went viral. 
    When I think of Sweet Brown, it reminds me of the double rainbow guy. People quoted him a lot and it was around the same time. Someone says something funny and its recorded and goes viral, people are going to repeat and share it. 
    Can only white people say "bi-winning" since it was made popular by a white guy?
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